Nightime UFO Over the Huson River (Excellent)

[Shakeupwakeup Profile]

So no one will put their money where their mouth is? That says it all. Words are cheap. Money talks. Now it's a lamp post! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

No offense dude but you sound like a thrteen year old boy.Taunts,booger insults...The thing is as you yourself stated, you are using an anonymous screen name (as we all are) and there is no way to make certain such a bet will be honored..and you know it.A rational,grown man would know this as well and wouldnt make taunts for people to bet him.
The psychology of your words and mannerisms on forum suggest strongly that you are a hoaxster.We all (most of us) want your picture to be real but we all (most of us) realize at this point that there is something wrong with your story,your personality (high school or junior high) and your picture.I tell you what..shop that photo over at ATS (above top secret).
There you will have it torn apart by real photo experts in less than three days..and you will probably get your feelings hurt in the process (they eat hoaxsters for Bfast).
I have come to my own conclusion that you are pushing a hoax.So without insulting you or callin
g into question your mother's honor at your time of birth,I am going to leave you to howl on about your photo.You witnessed a spacecraft fly around and zip to a stop for you to get a picture,then zoom away with bright lights....and all you can talk about is your picture...no breathless accounts of how awesome it was..no retelling of the encounter for all of us .That is what tells me you are a liar.That anf the fact that a huge UFO on the side of the freeway at night was ONLY reported by you.I scoured the web for reports of sightings in that area on that day and there is Zilcho.
You are lying.
Consolation prize?You managed to waste the time of a lot of good folks,congrats.Now scram

I submit to you just because I have a good sense of humor and I am witty does not make me a 13 year old boy! Second, I had people insulting my wife and sister and the gloves are off when that happens. If you were a man or you had a wife I would hope you would defend her honor. I am going to assume you do not. Regarding the bet, it is very easy to set up an escrow account at a bank with signature cards to protect the deposit. I am willing to do this for 2 very important reasons:

1. The picture is not a fake or a hoax.
2. I would like to see some of these so called men in person and to see if they have the courage to disrespect me or my wife in my face. (I sure would like to see this!)

If you were a business man you would know how easy it is to do this. All your other inane little accusation do no amount to a hill of beans.

Put up some cash or please do in fact leave and stop responding to this thread. Regarding your statement, I am not gushing about a strange light the THREE of us saw is relative to the fact, I have been receiving nothing but mockery. Maybe you can ask an adult how escrow works?

And I most certainly will take the pic to above top secret because I would like to know what WE saw. A man, a wife and a sister period. How you deduce this is hoax is beyond me. I have come to the conclusion you are biased and prejudice. So please do yourself a favor and move on. Peace . . .

[Shakeupwakeup Profile]

AND TO ANY ONE READING THIS. EXPLAIN EXACTLY HOW THE PICTURE IS A HOAX. NOT THEORY BUT FACTS FROM SHADOWS, GRAINS, MATHMATICS, ETC. NO CONJECTURE. THE CELL PHONE CAMERA HAS NO FLASH (HENCE THE DARKNESS) AND THE CAR WINDOW WAS DOWN. NO BOUNCE FROM THE LIGHT. NO LIGHT WAS ON IN THE CAR. IF IT IS HOAX THIS SHOULD BE VERY EASY!

[Troll2rocks Profile]

So no one will put their money where their mouth is? That says it all. Words are cheap. Money talks. Now it's a lamp post! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

No offense dude but you sound like a thrteen year old boy.Taunts,booger insults...The thing is as you yourself stated, you are using an anonymous screen name (as we all are) and there is no way to make certain such a bet will be honored..and you know it.A rational,grown man would know this as well and wouldnt make taunts for people to bet him.
The psychology of your words and mannerisms on forum suggest strongly that you are a hoaxster.We all (most of us) want your picture to be real but we all (most of us) realize at this point that there is something wrong with your story,your personality (high school or junior high) and your picture.I tell you what..shop that photo over at ATS (above top secret).
There you will have it torn apart by real photo experts in less than three days..and you will probably get your feelings hurt in the process (they eat hoaxsters for Bfast).
I have come to my own conclusion that you are pushing a hoax.So without insulting you or callin
g into question your mother's honor at your time of birth,I am going to leave you to howl on about your photo.You witnessed a spacecraft fly around and zip to a stop for you to get a picture,then zoom away with bright lights....and all you can talk about is your picture...no breathless accounts of how awesome it was..no retelling of the encounter for all of us .That is what tells me you are a liar.That anf the fact that a huge UFO on the side of the freeway at night was ONLY reported by you.I scoured the web for reports of sightings in that area on that day and there is Zilcho.
You are lying.
Consolation prize?You managed to waste the time of a lot of good folks,congrats.Now scram

Agreed, Everything is bogus, the story, the singular picture, everything except the attitude, that is real.

Like Red says, go spam your bullshit on ATS they will also tell you how full of shit you are, unless of course you went there got banned then came here, if this is the case then I suggest blossom goodchilds blog, she will welcome you with open arms.

The light is reflected at an angle suggesting car window.

Its taken through glass.

Sorry the source of light is behind the camera!

FAKE

If you are so so sure, then put YOUR money where your mouth is and get the fake picture looked at by professionals.

YOU PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, We are not the ones making the claims based on a fake picture

[Shakeupwakeup Profile]

So no one will put their money where their mouth is? That says it all. Words are cheap. Money talks. Now it's a lamp post! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

No offense dude but you sound like a thrteen year old boy.Taunts,booger insults...The thing is as you yourself stated, you are using an anonymous screen name (as we all are) and there is no way to make certain such a bet will be honored..and you know it.A rational,grown man would know this as well and wouldnt make taunts for people to bet him.
The psychology of your words and mannerisms on forum suggest strongly that you are a hoaxster.We all (most of us) want your picture to be real but we all (most of us) realize at this point that there is something wrong with your story,your personality (high school or junior high) and your picture.I tell you what..shop that photo over at ATS (above top secret).
There you will have it torn apart by real photo experts in less than three days..and you will probably get your feelings hurt in the process (they eat hoaxsters for Bfast).
I have come to my own conclusion that you are pushing a hoax.So without insulting you or callin
g into question your mother's honor at your time of birth,I am going to leave you to howl on about your photo.You witnessed a spacecraft fly around and zip to a stop for you to get a picture,then zoom away with bright lights....and all you can talk about is your picture...no breathless accounts of how awesome it was..no retelling of the encounter for all of us .That is what tells me you are a liar.That anf the fact that a huge UFO on the side of the freeway at night was ONLY reported by you.I scoured the web for reports of sightings in that area on that day and there is Zilcho.
You are lying.
Consolation prize?You managed to waste the time of a lot of good folks,congrats.Now scram

Agreed, Everything is bogus, the story, the singular picture, everything except the attitude, that is real.

Like Red says, go spam your bullshit on ATS they will also tell you how full of shit you are, unless of course you went there got banned then came here, if this is the case then I suggest blossom goodchilds blog, she will welcome you with open arms.

The light is reflected at an angle suggesting car window.

Its taken through glass.

Sorry the source of light is behind the camera!

FAKE

If you are so so sure, then put YOUR money where your mouth is and get the fake picture looked at by professionals.

YOU PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, We are not the ones making the claims based on a fake picture

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

[Stophaarp Profile Website]

Shakeup, weren't you going to try and take some photos to prove where you were?

I was trying to defend your position, but even when many decent people are trying to put forth a viable explaination, ( street light theory is a sound theory for the photo, and the provided screenshots of streetview) you just got more offended, instead of helping to defend yourself.

We are a collective of people trying to overturn hoaxes and prove the truth, and you can't fault anyone ( except mucusboy) for trying to find an explaination for your photo. It's what is done here.

If you want to prove yourself, try gaining some maturity points, and actually going back to the scene, taking photos... Or not getting so defensive in the first place.

Saying blah blah blah blah isn't going to get you any credit around here, and right now, the streetlight theory is holding. So i'd work on redeeming myself if I were you, and providing proof.

Don't get mad at this, it's just the truth. Most of us are 'debunkers' by nature, and some of us go alittle crazy with it, yeah, but you can't fault us for it, when most the world we grew up in is a lie. We have to question everything.

Now, run along, fetch more proof! ( remember.. I was on your side in the beginning, but I'm a photographer, and the streetlight theory is sound. You need to come up with proof, or it's going to stick.)

[Shakeupwakeup Profile]

Shakeup, weren't you going to try and take some photos to prove where you were?

I was trying to defend your position, but even when many decent people are trying to put forth a viable explaination, ( street light theory is a sound theory for the photo, and the provided screenshots of streetview) you just got more offended, instead of helping to defend yourself.

We are a collective of people trying to overturn hoaxes and prove the truth, and you can't fault anyone ( except mucusboy) for trying to find an explaination for your photo. It's what is done here.

If you want to prove yourself, try gaining some maturity points, and actually going back to the scene, taking photos... Or not getting so defensive in the first place.

Saying blah blah blah blah isn't going to get you any credit around here, and right now, the streetlight theory is holding. So i'd work on redeeming myself if I were you, and providing proof.

Don't get mad at this, it's just the truth. Most of us are 'debunkers' by nature, and some of us go alittle crazy with it, yeah, but you can't fault us for it, when most the world we grew up in is a lie. We have to question everything.

Now, run along, fetch more proof! ( remember.. I was on your side in the beginning, but I'm a photographer, and the streetlight theory is sound. You need to come up with proof, or it's going to stick.)

Actually I said Sunday I will take more pictures of the location. Is today Sunday? Second, I am done debating with people who create their own facts. I will post the day time pictures just prove to the shot is genuine. And then I am leaving this site for good. Excluding you, some these people are just pricks. And then when you see the location and NO lamp post what is next? Oh I know, next it will be a fly with a blow torch. We all know what we saw.. And I do not need arrogant people to tell me what I saw! I am looking at my dog right now as I type this but I am sure some one will argue he is not here. Where is the rest of the "lamp post", the body of it? And it is OVER the river. Do you know of any lamp post coming out of the river? And I said "Bla Blah Blah" because I refuse to respond to the Troll dude any longer waste of time. Oh yeah, I will be sure to "fetch" the pictures you inquired about. I guess I will run along now. Have a good day.

[Mucusinvasion Profile]

I LOVE IT WHEN A TWIRP GETS OWNED VIA THE USE OF SCIENCE!

Here we are and it is Monday. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
Yeah , this is further proof he was a hoaxer trying to pull the wool over our eyes

GO GET YOU SHINE BOX!

[Budz82 Profile]

UFO, Aliens, Angels and Nothing New Under the Sun 10/18/2010

UFO, Aliens, Angels and Nothing New Under the Sun
By God's Webmaster
Published: 9:45PM EST 18 Oct 2010

i havent had time to read 12 pages to catch up... so if this post repeats anything anyone says then shit happens

my initial thoughts are this could very easily be some sort of bluebeam technology... my reasoning for this is the fact that the main glow of the light is or seems to be at cloud level...

this is the kind of thing id expect to see from ant source of projected light... light travels in straight lines... visable light keeps on going until it hits a surface and it reflects

in the above image... the clouds are being used as the medium to reflect / refract (whatever it is) the light... clouds are a semi solid surface and thus semi porous where light is concerned... hense why we have a huge 'solid' like light object and some beams of light continuing on through

as far as i know... it is impossible to bring light to an abrupt end / stop without having something hindering its path... which is why we dont have holograms like these springing outta mobile phones...



however...

a hologram is a product of the interference patterns of 2 or more seperate waves... im open to the prospect that multiple satelites could be used to create a solid looking 3 dimensional object using the interference patterns of light waves... but this would need some kind of super technology in order to be able to achieve this absent of a solid hinderence

the following video is a prime example... multiple light sources to create a 3d object... but... there is a solid meduim present in the way of water spray

Amazing Public Display of Holographic Technology in Japan


and it is quite transparent and not very solid... if this technology was employed in the sky... id say the moon and quite possibly stars would be visable through the hologram

That video is a very basic public version of holographic technology. ALL the setbacks you speak of above such as the need for a screen (water spray in that example and glass panes in others), and holographic transparency are not an issue for the true technology available today. Ever ask yourself what the true goal of the chemtrail program really is? Why there are such high amounts of Barium & Strontium Nano particles?

Here is a (.mil) example of the true form of holographic technology available today which uses a slightly different method then most known holographic display technologies and is far more advanced (removing all of the limitations of the more common method). Keep in mind that this is still a very basic form of this method and this proven concept today has been expanded to a level most people will never believe possible.

Army Research Laboratory (1998)
3-D Holographic Display Using Strontium Barium Niobate
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA338490&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf

"An innovative technique for generating a three-dimensional holographic display using strontium barium niobate (SBN) is discussed. The resultant image is a hologram that can be viewed in real time over a wide perspective or field of view (FOV). The holographic image is free from system-induced aberrations and has a uniform, high quality over the entire FOV. The enhanced image quality resulted from using a phase-conjugate read beam generated from a second photorefractive crystal acting as a double-pumped phase-conjugate mirror (DPPCM). Multiple three-dimensional images have been stored in the crystal via wavelength multiplexing."
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"The proposed method employs a volume hologram recorded and read in real time in a photorefractive crystal to produce a 3-D image. This innovative technique is simple, and it differs from previous attempts at 3-D displays. We used a photorefractive material, Strontium Barium Niobate (SBN), to record a hologram, and a phase-conjugate read beam, which is generated from a double-pumped phase-conjugate mirror (DPPCM), to accurately reproduce the holographic image in space over a large perspective. The resultant holographic image is free from system-induced aberrations, may be viewed over a wide range of angles that can be expanded by the addition of a mosaic of crystals, and has uniform high quality over the entire Field of View (FOV)."
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Conclusions
A simple method for recording a real-time, 3-D hologram using Strontium Barium Niobate (SBN) has been demonstrated. The 3-D hologram is a realistic image that can be viewed over a large Field Of View (FOV). A Double-Pumped Phase-Conjugate Mirror (DPPCM) was used to produce a phase-conjugate read beam in order to view the hologram over the maximum perspective (FOV). We further increased the FOV of the hologram by storing the hologram in a mosaic of two SBN crystals. Multiple 3-D images have been stored and read out of the crystal via wavelength multiplexing. The holograms were also noted to persist without any external fixing mechanisms. During readout, the holograms persisted for hours. When the photorefractive storage crystal was kept in a dark environment, the holograms persisted for days.