Now that is creepy MARVEL... "Embrace Change"

[Megame23 Profile]

reptilians date back a lot further than that...

Why is it that they made the skrull green lizard skinned shape-shifters? green lizard skinned shape-shifters that say we are ruining the world, and that they can fix it. (New World Order) Why is it that this comic is EXACTLY about what we say reptilians are?

[Funnyman46 Profile YIM]

Megame23, I would think as all cartoonist will tell you, they search for relevant ideas in society to turn into the medium or character. Watch any extras section on the Marvel DVDs and you’ll see they take the current ideas floating around and use them. This way the characters become socially relevant and makes an impression or a conection to the poeple. It was bound to happen in time.
Shame they didn’t continue along this line (they may have but I haven’t seen any traffic to that site)it would have pre-empted the V series and made a fortune.
But, what if they wanted to and the PTB stopped them?

[maxkira Profile]

dont forget the upcoming the EVENT

[Megame23 Profile]

Megame23, I would think as all cartoonist will tell you, they search for relevant ideas in society to turn into the medium or character. Watch any extras section on the Marvel DVDs and you’ll see they take the current ideas floating around and use them. This way the characters become socially relevant and makes an impression or a conection to the poeple. It was bound to happen in time.
Shame they didn’t continue along this line (they may have but I haven’t seen any traffic to that site)it would have pre-empted the V series and made a fortune.
But, what if they wanted to and the PTB stopped them?

These reptilian stories have been told all throughout our history, because of their great relevance. The skrulls have been used before in the MARVEL comics, in 1962.

Again they were used in the MARVEL ultimate series in 2002!
In this series they used the name Chitauri!!!

This is the description from the marvel site of those comics.


Earth-1610's counterpart to the Skrulls, the Chitauri are a shapeshifting alien species who have attempted to conquer the Earth, most notably during World War II and again in the early 21st century.

The Chitauri race is may be an offshoot, cult or separate civilization from Earth-1610's Skrulls, since a separate Skrull race later visited Earth, who recognized the name but disclaimed any common motives between them.[1]

The Chitauri claim to be part of "the immune system of the Universe", wiping out disorder and free will wherever they find it. They seem to prefer to act behind the scenes, mimicking and influencing the social and military methods of the species they are currently infiltrating. For example, they aided the Nazis in their attempt at world conquest by providing them with the technology to create a nuclear bomb carried by an intercontinental ballistic missile. However, this attempt was thwarted by the prototype super-soldier codenamed Captain America. Through the entire conflict of World War II, the Chitauri were being driven out of their operations in Africa and Europe. And even from their main Japanese training camps in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Following the end of the war, the Chitauri withdrew to make new plans.

The next attempt at conquest was more subtle (at first), involving long-term methods of manipulation such as will-inhibiting drugs in many nations' water supplies, influencing the media, and R.F.I.D. (Radio-frequency identification) microchips to be implanted in schoolchildren, among other means. The Chitauri also infiltrated S.H.I.E.L.D., particularly the Psi-Division which could telepathically ferret out Chitauri agents. However, S.H.I.E.L.D. was able to detect some of the low-ranking "drone" staff of the aliens, disguised as common office workers, and wiped them out in an assault led by Black Widow and Hawkeye.

The Chitauri planted false information through the compromised Psi-Division that led S.H.I.E.L.D. and the Ultimates into a trap on a small Micronesian island; due to the combined efforts of Iron Man and Thor, the Ultimates, Nick Fury and a handful of SHIELD soldiers survived, but thousands of SHIELD soldiers were killed and dozens of Helicarriers were destroyed.

The Chitauri then counterattacked by infiltrating the Triskelion and capturing The Wasp. The Chitauri leader, known only by his former Nazi identity as Herr Kleiser, took the Wasp to a hidden Chitauri base in Arizona. However, their location was given away when a fleet of damaged Chitauri starships suddenly entered Earth's atmosphere to hover above the formerly secret base, claiming that they were fleeing major defeats across the galaxy by their intergalactic enemies and that the remainder of their forces are forced to the "backwaters" of the Milky Way Galaxy (i.e. Earth's solar system). Much to Herr Kleiser's long run efforts, the Chitauri ordered him to destroy Earth and its solar system with a doomsday bomb as part of a scorch earth policy and retreat to the "lower fourth-dimension". The Ultimates and all available S.H.I.E.L.D. and military forces immediately converged on the alien fleet.

Although Iron Man and Thor were able to damage the ships (who as well in ridding the Chitauri bomb by teleporting it to the wastes of Nastrond, where its detonation caused only a small ripple in space-time), it was the Hulk who downed the majority of the fleet. At the same time, Captain America battled his old enemy Herr Kleiser, but was unable to defeat him alone. At Captain America's urging, the Hulk was able to beat, dismember, and devour Kleiser. It is presently presume that combine with the Chitauri's series of defeats from their alien enemies and the destruction of the Chitauri fleet on Earth spells the total defeat of the alien race.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Chitauri

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Ok.... So where did the name Chitauri come from?

An ancient African legend, in this interview Credo Mutwa talks all about them.

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Ok, so clearly this is what the skrull were talking about in 1962 also, its the same story. Here is the skrull description.




The Skrulls were a breed of green-skinned humanoids from the Andromeda galaxy. They were a fierce warrior race who carved for themselves the oldest surviving interstellar empire in the Universe’s history. Skrull science was generally at a higher level than the science of human civilization. The Skrulls were ruled by an Emperor or Empress, who had absolute power.

In the beginning the Skrulls were a peaceful, scientifically inclined race on Skrullos, a planet in the Drax system. Almost a billion years ago the Celestials arrived and experimented on the Skrulls' reptillian ancestors. As the Celestials did with humans, they split the species into three branches: the "normal" branch who were capable of eventually rapidly evolving into Celestial-like beings, the shapeshifting Deviant branch, and the immortal Eternal branch. As in the case with humans, the Deviant and Eternal branches went to war. Unlike the case with humans, however, the Deviant branch wiped out all other Skrulls, thus all modern Skrulls were descendants of the Deviant branch. The Skrulls later split into two more groups, being the modern Skrulls and the Dire Wraiths, a parasitic race that could still shapeshift and had use of magic, but were not as technologically advanced as the Skrulls. Dire Wraith's were analogous to the Skrulls as vampires were to humans.

Their shapeshifting powers aided the Skrulls’ departure into space. When they encountered a new race, they simply transformed themselves to resemble that race. The Skrull empire that resulted from these contacts was based on free trade and mutual cooperation.

Their scientists also formed the first Cosmic Cube that would become the Shaper of Worlds.

Then trouble struck. The Skrulls voyaged to the Milky Way and Magellanic Clouds. In the latter cluster they discovered the Kree homeworld of Hala. The Kree were in the dawn of their culture; at this point they shared Hala with the plant race, the Cotati. The Skrull decided to favor one of the races with their advanced technology and devised a test to determine which would be the favored race.

The Skrulls created the Blue Area of the Moon and transported bands of Kree and Cotati there. Both groups were left to accomplish what they could. The Skrulls judged the Cotati’s works to be superior. This angered the Kree and led to a vicious attack in which the Kree band slew the Skrull judges and the Cotati. The Kree stole the Skrull’s starship and technology. Because of the immense distances involved, decades passed before the Skrulls learned of the Kree’s activities. By this time it was too late. The Kree had become advanced and audacious enough to attack the Skrulls in their home galaxy. During the millennia that followed, the Skrulls developed the vicious streak needed to conduct intergalactic war. Their entire culture was remade in the warrior image.

100,000 years ago the Skrull capitol was relocated to Tarnax IV, now renamed Throneworld. The empire was controlled by an Emperor and each of the 978 worlds was controlled by a Governor.

Skrulls became aware of Earth when they discovered a space warp linking Earth and Throneworld. Later they discovered the Earth possessed an equidistant link to Hala. They saw Earth as a world to conquer but they were content to hold off a full invasion. (Perhaps they were afraid the Kree would learn of the plot.) Because of their caution, the Skrulls sent only a handful of scoutwarriors to infiltrate Earth.

Fearing the Fantastic Four would stand in their way of an invasion of Earth, four Skrull agents came to Earth and posed as the team in order to ruin their reputation. The real Fantastic Four were able to expose the Skrull agents and clear their names. The Fantastic Four stole the Skrulls' rocket ship and found their mothership in Earth orbit. Posing as the Skrull agents, they tricked the captain into believing that Earth was too dangerous to invade. Reed volunteered to stay behind and remove any trace of the Skrulls' presence on Earth. Falling for Richard's deception, the captain called off the invasion. Once back on Earth the Fantastic Four hid the remaining Skrull agents by convincing them to transform into cows. Reed hypnotized them into believing they were real cows. They were left in a field to graze for the rest of their lives.[1]

Other Skull agents have included Super-Skrull, Paibok the Power Skrull, Effigy, Ethan Edwards, and Skrull-X.

Throneworld was devoured by Galactus and the Imperial starfleet destroyed by Galactus's herald, Nova (Frankie Raye). With the destruction of a central government, the Skrull Empire collapsed into hundreds of bickering factions. Their galaxy was now filled with Governors declaring themselves “Emperor". The Shi'ar maintained a heavy presence in the former empire as well, constantly dealing with packets of resistance.

The greatest blow to the Skrulls was the destruction of their shapeshifting powers. This was accomplished by Reed Richards and yet another Governor-turned-Emperor.[2]

The Skrulls later broke a peace treaty with the Kree. They maintained their military drive and prefered to fight rather than negotiate. Among the other races contained within the Skrull Empire were the Druff, Guna, Kallusina, Morani, Pheragot, Queega, Tekton, and Yirbek races. Other races remained independent, whether through treaties or open resistance. Such races include the Clegrimites, Gegku, Krylorians, Wilameanis, and Xandarians. The war with the Xandarians ended with the destruction of Xandar by the supervillainess Nebula.

There were a small number of Skrull who were the equivalent of mutants. They were outcasts and often shunned or hunted by other Skrulls. One group, Cadre K, was trained by Professor X.

The Skrull Empire was the first of the major interstellar empires to be invaded by the forces of Annihilus. The Annihilation Wave's superweapon, the Harvester of Sorrow, destroyed 90% of Skrull planets. In the aftermath the Skrulls unsuccessfully attempted to convince Hulkling to become their new Emperor.

With almost all their planets destroyed, and under the leadership of the extremist Queen Veranke. The Skrulls infiltrated Earth for a major assault. Several heroes were replaced by Skrulls. Eventually, Reed Richards was able to pierce through the shapeshifting and all heroes and villains banded together to stop the Skrulls. Unfortunately, the Skrull activated a fail-safe within the Wasp, turning her into a biological weapon. Thor had no choice but to destroy her. Angered, the humans attacked the Skrulls, killing Veranke and destroying their fleet in orbit. All the missing heroes, villains and S.H.I.E.L.D. agents were found alive and returned to Earth. The Skrull Empire was decimated.
Reproduction

Skrull females did not give live birth; instead, they lay eggs like their reptilian evolutionary ancestors. Skrull children were known as "hatchlings". Despite their reptilian evolutionary roots, however, Skrull females had mammary glands and nursed their young.

It was known that Skrulls were capable of producing hybrid offspring with humans and Kree: the Skrull Lyja was able to conceive with the Human Torch, and Hulkling was the son of the Kree military officer Mar-Vell and the Skrull princess Anelle.

The Skrull species, like the Kree, became genetically frozen in place and was unable to evolve further due to a single member of the Skrull species abusing the power of the Crystal of Ultimate Vision. As punishment, the Crystal "genetically froze their evolution in place".[3]
Subspecies

A normal Skrull can only take on the appearance of their template, not the abilities of that person. Warskrulls, an elite group of Skrulls gifted with the ability to emulate the powers as well as the appearance of their templates.[4] Warskrulls do not naturally have this ability; instead, special encoding technology is used to grant them their powers.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Skrulls



Why so much effort to put all this into the comics?

[Otomon Profile]

Marvel is known for taking already existing mythology and re-selling it as their own by adding a little twist here and there... Im with megame on this one! Now this does not mean I am a reptilian beleiver but I do beleive reptilian storylines have been here long before Marvel.

[Megame23 Profile]

Woot!




You should go through the videos and such on the ultimate reptilian thread otomon. you always want to get more evidence and understand things more. Continue your own research too!

ultimate-reptilian-evidence-t27581.html

[Funnyman46 Profile YIM]

Marvel is known for taking already existing mythology and re-selling it as their own by adding a little twist here and there... Im with megame on this one! Now this does not mean I am a reptilian beleiver but I do beleive reptilian storylines have been here long before Marvel.

Firstly, Megame23, thanks for the read, good stuff indeed.
I also believe that history has more than demonstrated the existence or at least the acknowledgement of reptiles in our pass. Some of these could have been a popular motif at the time but I would suspect that to be a low percentage. Currently, I feel there is something to the countless attachments to the reptilian and our past but as of yet, I haven’t been able to solidify the story/theory. Yeah, I’ve seen the video postings from you and others but until I can see someone filmed in a crowd, in front of my face or in a format that cannot be altered, I’m afraid the search will continue.
Keep posting your stuff. I’ll watch it and make a few comments without trying to sound like I’m putting you down. Hey, you never know, you might beat the other guy to the quick and be the first to solve this mystery. I look forward to your next.

[Drjones Profile]

dont forget the upcoming the EVENT

YES..can't wait!!

[Terrahuman Profile]

Truely unsettling wouldnt be so if we didnt already know reptillians are cruel.

[sockpuppet Profile]

Currently, I feel there is something to the countless attachments to the reptilian and our past but as of yet, I haven’t been able to solidify the story/theory. Yeah, I’ve seen the video postings from you and others but until I can see someone filmed in a crowd, in front of my face or in a format that cannot be altered, I’m afraid the search will continue.

The reasons for fear of reptilians DOES have its origin in our past. A long time ago... before humans split into huge migrating tribes.. we were one tribe, in Africa, just trying to survive. Fear of reptiles (esp. snakes) is instinctual- some may even say it's encoded in our DNA- because they appear small and harmless compared to so many other HUGE animals present on the continent but yet their poison can kill so easily. This fear is arguably universal, and we've never shaken it off.