obama our prez

Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:44 pm » by **Scarecro**

pshhh.... ain't my prez.

Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:46 pm » by **Truthseekerx**

scarecro wrote:pshhh.... ain't my prez.

Nor mine. Only brainwashed MSM voters would vote for that freak.

Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:54 pm » by **Gonzo63**

boondox681 wrote:
You could just as easily post a picture of Bush with the tagline FASCIST BY CONDUCT.

This does not help discourse. Why does the right wing refuse to even discuss the issues that are important to the majority of Americans? Let's try to shut up for a minute about gay marriage, abortion, immigration, and talk about the economy, the two wars that cost us billions, allowing children to pursue the American dream by helping them survive childhood in impoverished conditions. The only way we are going to start caring for Americans again (and not just for their political stripe) is if we stop trying to police the world for the sole purpose of protecting the global resources that we crave. There is not one human life worth all the profits and executive bonuses handed to the crooked, sociopathic corporations that were deemed "too big to fail." I think I'd rather see Bank of America, Citicorp, AIG, and all the other corps fail than the US economy!

America was great when we made stuff and did great things! Whether they made money or not. Now it seems that the most we can do is steal money and manufacture short term wealth via more and more complex ponzi schemes that the wealthiest of our nation cash in on through insider trading all the while paying tons to the lobbyists who insure that their already low tax responsibility will never get higher.

When I was in the Navy, we had a term for this. It is called a clusterfuck.

LET'S ALL STOP BITCHING AND SIT DOWN LIKE ADULTS AND FIX THIS!!!!!!!

You could just as easily post a picture of Bush with the tagline FASCIST BY CONDUCT.

true.
This does not help discourse.

i am in no position to steer discourse so this is irrelevant.
The only way we are going to start caring for Americans again (and not just for their political stripe) is if we stop trying to police the world for the sole purpose of protecting the global resources that we crave

who the fuck is this 'we'?
i,as an american,am responsible for my own words,acts and deeds.
LET'S ALL STOP BITCHING AND SIT DOWN LIKE ADULTS AND FIX THIS!!!!!!!

liberals are fucking dense.i got your fix....
vote republican.

peace

"i am in no position to steer discourse so this is irrelevant."

You just did steer discourse with your right wing point of view. Have something to DISCUSS not just say.

"who the fuck is this 'we'?"

The people who ultimately pay ALL the bills, not simply the small majority who control over 90% of the wealth.

I believe wholeheartedly that every child, every disabled person, all of our seniors, AT THE FUCKING LEAST deserve universal health care. I think it is the responsibility of all of us, and that means our government, to provide free, quality education to EVERY child born in this country.

I further believe that anyone who would rape and or murder a child should be given due process and then killed in such a way that they suffer. I believe that we should use our military to depose or destroy any tyrant using terrorism, massacre, torture or any other form of barbarism against their own or any other people. I believe that if you break into my house and threaten to harm me, my family or even my fucking pets I have the right to blast your face off with my perfectly legal, brilliantly retro Colt Model 1911A1 .45 cal automatic (nickeled, of course).

My Question: Am I a conservative, or a liberal?

Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:03 pm » by **Boondox681**

I think it is the responsibility of all of us, and that means our government, to provide free, quality education to EVERY child born in this country.

then move to Venezuela,commie

My Question: Am I a conservative, or a liberal?

i don't care.

i am not a democrat or a republican.
i am not a libertarian or a progressive.
I AM AN AMERICAN.

what a fuckin' concept,eh?

peace

Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:07 pm » by **Domeika**

To say that people have a right to a service performed by individuals.....like healthcare, in effect says that the providers of that service will be compelled to work without compensation (i.e. slave) to support the "right" of those that demand it.

Basically, anything that costs money is not a right. People have no more of a right to free healthcare than they do a free cellphone or xbox. However, if a doctor wishes to provide free healthcare that is their right, because it is their time to do with what they will, but they should not and can not be compelled to work for free. To believe otherwise is to believe in communism and one only needs to crack a history book to find out how well it worked out in the past.

It all comes down to this....
If YOU think everyone should get free healthcare, then YOU need to go to medical school, become a doctor, then treat all the people you want for free. If YOU want free medicine for the masses, then YOU should start a pharma company and give away your products. Additionally, if YOU want free education for everyone, then YOU should become a teacher and teach for free foregoing all compensation. Whatever YOU want people to have for free, YOU need to provide it. Not ME, or anyone else, YOU.

But that is not the way socialists or communists work, and when their unicorn in every garage and borscht in every pot ideas ultimately fail, the utopia they were out to create really manifests itself as a reality of misery, horror, and death. But hey, communism (which is nothing more than socialism in a hurry) has only murdered a hundred or so million.....let's give it another chance.

Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:14 pm » by **The57ironman**

I believe wholeheartedly that every child, every disabled person, all of our seniors, AT THE FUCKING LEAST deserve universal health care. I think it is the responsibility of all of us, and that means our government, to provide free, quality education to EVERY child born in this country.

I further believe that anyone who would rape and or murder a child should be given due process and then killed in such a way that they suffer. I believe that we should use our military to depose or destroy any tyrant using terrorism, massacre, torture or any other form of barbarism against their own or any other people. I believe that if you break into my house and threaten to harm me, my family or even my fucking pets I have the right to blast your face off with my perfectly legal, brilliantly retro Colt Model 1911A1 .45 cal automatic (nickeled, of course).

.................fail

Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:48 pm » by **Domeika**

I believe that if you break into my house and threaten to harm me, my family or even my fucking pets I have the right to blast your face off with my perfectly legal, brilliantly retro Colt Model 1911A1 .45 cal automatic (nickeled, of course).

My Question: Am I a conservative, or a liberal?

That's easy, you must be a liberal or else you'd have a concealed carry permit and legally shoot them in the driveway. :shooting:

Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:59 pm » by **Cia212**

gonzo63 wrote:
cia212 wrote:
edrut wrote:I don't care whether you are a Democrat, a Republican, a Conservative or a liberal, be aware of the attitude and character of this sitting President.

As we learned with Clinton, character doesn't matter to liberal Democrats. I guess horrific policies don't matter either. Sad.

Oh, come on! Really? You REALLY want to go head to head on the character issue Dems VS Repubs?

Oh yeah, and Clinton got a blowjob. Big whoop.

You moron. I never said anything about Dem v. Rep. It was during Clinton's second campaign that liberal Democrats coined the term "Character doesn't matter".

domeika wrote:I believe that if you break into my house and threaten to harm me, my family or even my fucking pets I have the right to blast your face off with my perfectly legal, brilliantly retro Colt Model 1911A1 .45 cal automatic (nickeled, of course).

My Question: Am I a conservative, or a liberal?

That's easy, you must be a liberal or else you'd have a concealed carry permit and legally shoot them in the driveway.

Actually, in CA and most other states, that would still be murder.

Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:08 pm » by **Domeika**

That's easy, you must be a liberal or else you'd have a concealed carry permit and legally shoot them in the driveway.

Actually, in CA and most other states, that would still be murder.

Not in mine, and not in my situation. I have a hundred feet of driveway, and if someone is in my driveway they are confronted. No being there by accident, and if they have any bad intentions we'll deal with it right there.