Obama Starts Another Illegal War, Rangel Calls For Draft

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PostMon Mar 21, 2011 2:02 am » by Harbin


http://blacklistednews.com/Obama-Starts-Another-Illegal-War%2C-Rangel-Calls-For-Draft/13129/0/5/5/Y/M.html

What balls! What hubris! What hypocrisy! What happened to America?

Once again, America has preemptively attacked a sovereign nation that posed no threat to her without a declaration of war from the people's representatives. Apparently the U.S. president now gets permission from the U.N. to spend U.S. taxpayer dollars on unprovoked wars and outright murder. Isn't it still called murder when killing is not done in self-defense? Okay, just checking to make sure I haven't lost my mind.

Nobel Peace prince Obama launched his liberation of the good people of Libya with his own shock-and-awe bombing campaign appropriately on the eighth anniversary of Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq. This tyrannical intervention is so naked, so brazen in its hubris that whatever shred of goodwill America had left is completely gone. America is officially the most murderous, anti-democratic, terrorist nation the world has ever known.

And get this, on the very same day of this unconstitutional act of war, ethically-challenged Charlie Rangel reintroduced his National Service "Draft" bill. Rangel pointed out in his announcement that the government lied us into the Iraq war that ultimately resulted in the deaths of over 4,400 servicemen with over 32,000 injured. He claims this is the reason we need a draft:

Based on false pretenses of weapons of mass destruction and involvement in the 9/11 attacks, the unfunded war in Iraq has cost our nation not only $800 billion dollars, but the lives of more than 4,400 brave American patriots. Over 32,000 U.S. soldiers have also been seriously wounded in the war we should not have been in the first place.

It is because of these devastating statistics and the commitment our nation must make to sharing in duty and service that I reintroduced the Universal National Service Act, commonly known as the draft bill.

You can't make this stuff up. So, our government lies us into wars for profit and oil, thrusts our brave young men and women in harms way against poor nations who in their wildest dreams couldn't threaten America, and puts off paying for them as long as the banks and China get their interest payments at gunpoint from the taxpayer. And now you want to force all of our kids to take part in this sociopathic behavior?

Rangel continues:

Currently the burden of defending our nation is carried by an increasingly smaller segment of our population. Only 1 percent of the American population currently makes the sacrifice of laying down life and limb for our country.

Far too many are being forced into repeated tours of duty, sometimes as many as six deployments. This repeated combat exposure to our troops is why 25 percent of America's active duty military personnel suffer from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). It is why the Army's current suicide rate is far above the civilian rate at 22-per-100,000. The rate for the Marine Corps is even higher.

Boy, Rangel is a first-rate salesman. Who could resist the idea of forcing their children into repeated tours of duty and a 1-in-4 chance of getting ruined by PTSD? Or, making them so miserable that they think suicide is better than killing poor brown people for Big Oil profits and their pocket-change politicians -- all while bankrupting the country and their home towns in the process?

Rangel's pitch that a draft would alleviate these problems is ill-conceived, as he even pointed out: "Having a draft does not necessarily mean that everyone called to duty would be required to serve in the Armed forces." Who in their right mind would choose the Armed forces in this corrupt imperial climate if given a choice of community services?

Of course, liberals like to think Rangel's hidden argument is that a draft would actually discourage war by making the people pay more attention to the wars enough to protest. Wake up! We can't even get Congress to vote for these wars anymore! The notion that the decision makers will actually give a shit about the people's will is laughable. Besides, we all know how they handle peaceful protesters these days, despite their lofty rhetoric of fighting for people's rights in foreign countries.

At this point, it seems the only thing that can stop these conquistadors is when soldiers start refusing to fight en masse. They, and they alone, have the power to end this insanity. As Albert Einstein said "Nothing will end war unless the people themselves refuse to go to war." God help them find the courage and moral compass to end this tyranny.

Rangel buying into the good graces of his elite New York constituents.
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PostMon Mar 21, 2011 2:39 am » by Thebluecanary


What did I say yesterday??? UN starts the fucking mess, and yet we (in this case Obama) get to be the bad guys.
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PostMon Mar 21, 2011 2:48 am » by Muchtyman


thebluecanary wrote:What did I say yesterday??? UN starts the fucking mess, and yet we (in this case Obama) get to be the bad guys.


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PostMon Mar 21, 2011 3:06 am » by Redwoodrick


Trying to tie this multilateral UN action to Iraq is juvenile and ignorant.Calling it an "illegal war" is just plain stupid.If you were familiar with the laws in the US regarding participation in UN actions you would know better than to call this an "illegal war".It is neither illegal nor war.Educate yourself before quoting people who either do not know or do not care to know the facts.
And pray you never find yourself in a country who's citizens are being massacred by a madman.
You either are biased towards anti Americanism,or you have not read the UN resolution or watched ANY independent news sources.You should educate yourself,Harbin,on the facts before regurgitating slanted opinions from opinion pieces.
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PostMon Mar 21, 2011 3:08 am » by Thebluecanary


muchtyman wrote:
thebluecanary wrote:What did I say yesterday??? UN starts the fucking mess, and yet we (in this case Obama) get to be the bad guys.


I take it you ain't following the posts that involve Globalist Elite or New World Order .

Nation States are the past .........don't you get it yet ?


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I know about the New World Order. I'm not "following" any posts. What does your comment have to do with mine, exactly? I gather you didn't "follow" my statement in the last Libya thread, which I was referencing here?
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PostMon Mar 21, 2011 3:13 am » by Whiteknight2000


I think you should of done your research MARBIN before you accuse the U.S of Anything.

This is not an illegal war. why?

1. The Arabian council went to the UN and asked for help. They wanted military action to happen in Libya.
2. France stepped in and said they would help.
3. Britain said they would step in.
4. America was the last one to step in. Obama did not want to start another war and make America seem like its the bad guy after power and destruction. It was the last thing he wanted.

America was forced to do this. They were trying to avoid this at all costs, and then they decided to step in because the rebels were losing. They were losing. So they had no choice.

Would you rather see millions of civilians die because of Gudaffi? Because that's what would of happened if no one did anything about this.

As soon as Gudaffi took back Libya he would of killed everyone who wasn't loyal to him.

Of course now people like Marbin have immediately stepped in and Automatically accused America of being the bad guy. And funnily enough a week ago most of you were saying Obama was weak. You were saying he should step in.

Now of course your saying he's starting an illegal war. That itself is being two faced.

I just hope that this will be a quick combat, and will be resolved quickly and I hope that after that peace follows.

So next time do some research before you make judgements about America.

This is not illegal. Do your research!!!!

Last of all that statement by George bush senior saying "NEW WORLD ORDER". How is that proof? What does "NEW WORLD ORDER" mean??? He just say's NEW WORLD ORDER. It can be interpreted as anything.

And a lot of people took advantage of that and created something scary about it. Middle Easterns have been doing the very best they could to make America the bad guy. To make America the one that is after Oil. To make America the one who want a New world order.

Saudi Arabia is the one who is really controlling a whole bunch of places because we are the ones who are relying on them to supply us with oil.

As soon as we stop relying on oil will be the day that we will stop relying on the middle east.

I agree, HARBIN's opinion is biased an is filled with a lot of Anti-American hate. Why do you think there's alot of Anti-American bullshit going around?

Because America is a threat to Autocracies. America is a threat the the middle east, Saudi Arabia. Because they still have Autocracies. Once people start asking for freedom, and democracy. Autocracy will be a thing of the past.

Oh btw don't forget about the FEMA CAMPS......Wait a minute. Wasn't that started up by Alex Jones and turned about to be a VERY VERY VERY MAJOR HOAX?????
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PostMon Mar 21, 2011 3:18 am » by Muchtyman


redwoodrick wrote:Trying to tie this multilateral UN action to Iraq is juvenile and ignorant.Calling it an "illegal war" is just plain stupid.If you were familiar with the laws in the US regarding participation in UN actions you would know better than to call this an "illegal war".It is neither illegal nor war.Educate yourself before quoting people who either do not know or do not care to know the facts.
And pray you never find yourself in a country who's citizens are being massacred by a madman.
You either are biased towards anti Americanism,or you have not read the UN resolution or watched ANY independent news sources.You should educate yourself,Harbin,on the facts before regurgitating slanted opinions from opinion pieces.
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/


Hi Red

As is obvious I ain't an American Citizen and I ain't Anti American ( The People that is ) ..............But................ :twisted:

" Neither Illegal nor war " ?.............what is it when you launch 200 plus tomahawks to destroy another sovereign nations military ..........A sure definition of war as I've seen .

I was under the impression only Congress could declare war

Have things changed ?

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PostMon Mar 21, 2011 3:20 am » by Muchtyman


whiteknight2000 wrote:I think you should of done your research MARBIN before you accuse the U.S of Anything.

This is not an illegal war. why?

1. The Arabian council went to the UN and asked for help. They wanted military action to happen in Libya.
2. France stepped in and said they would help.
3. Britain said they would step in.
4. America was the last one to step in. Obama did not want to start another war and make America seem like its the bad guy after power and destruction. It was the last thing he wanted.

America was forced to do this. They were trying to avoid this at all costs, and then they decided to step in because the rebels were losing. They were losing. So they had no choice.

Would you rather see millions of civilians die because of Gudaffi? Because that's what would of happened if no one did anything about this.

As soon as Gudaffi took back Libya he would of killed everyone who wasn't loyal to him.

Of course now people like Marbin have immediately stepped in and Automatically accused America of being the bad guy. And funnily enough a week ago most of you were saying Obama was weak. You were saying he should step in.

Now of course your saying he's starting an illegal war. That itself is being two faced.

I just hope that this will be a quick combat, and will be resolved quickly and I hope that after that peace follows.

So next time do some research before you make judgements about America.

This is not illegal. Do your research!!!!

Last of all that statement by George bush senior saying "NEW WORLD ORDER". How is that proof? What does "NEW WORLD ORDER" mean??? He just say's NEW WORLD ORDER. It can be interpreted as anything.

And a lot of people took advantage of that and created something scary about it. Middle Easterns have been doing the very best they could to make America the bad guy. To make America the one that is after Oil. To make America the one who want a New world order.

Saudi Arabia is the one who is really controlling a whole bunch of places because we are the ones who are relying on them to supply us with oil.

As soon as we stop relying on oil will be the day that we will stop relying on the middle east.

I agree, HARBIN's opinion is biased an is filled with a lot of Anti-American hate. Why do you think there's alot of Anti-American bullshit going around?

Because America is a threat to Autocracies. America is a threat the the middle east, Saudi Arabia. Because they still have Autocracies. Once people start asking for freedom, and democracy. Autocracy will be a thing of the past.



Your petticoat is showing again ........................... :twisted:

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PostMon Mar 21, 2011 3:21 am » by Whiteknight2000


muchtyman wrote:
redwoodrick wrote:I was under the impression only Congress could declare war

Have things changed ?


Only Congress could declare war? What do you think the United Nations is? That is above Congress.

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PostMon Mar 21, 2011 3:24 am » by Muchtyman


whiteknight2000 wrote:
muchtyman wrote:
redwoodrick wrote:I was under the impression only Congress could declare war

Have things changed ?


Only Congress could declare war? What do you think the United Nations is? That is above Congress.


Geez ..............You admit it .......... :twisted:

Fkn Hallelujah ............................. :flop:

Go read your constitution ........... :cheers:


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