ok... answer this question!

[Lowsix Profile]

Neither the chicken, nor the egg came first. It was the rooster that came first.

+1000 pts.

[Lowsix Profile]

Well, i approached it as respectfully and academically that i possibly could...
so i dont get your 'asshole angle"...You still think (like everyone) that if i mention GOD im talking anything about religion. Thats why these discussions are futile. You dont even understand the nature of the debate.

You still havent accounted for the FIRST set of parents from which all these supposed mutations arose from.

All i was trying to do with the god insertion was show you that sometimes, we cannot prove or disprove certain things. Take for instance, if a human had been alive, while that first egg was brewing. There would be no way for him to know exactly what sort of bird would be born, but genetic instructions existed for them. A perfect plan if you will..that DIDNT rely on that human being able to prove it, for it to be true.

God (or more accurately, Creation itself)contained the perfect instructions for a bird that had never been born, complete with recessive genes, and features, and rna and the whole potato. Therefore, there is a place wherein ONLY potential exists. It is the place from which creation itself arises..

And until you can trace back to the very first bird and tell me SpECIFICALLY how (mechanically) some cell division could contain PERFECT PLAnS for a bird that had never exist...barring of course the spontaneous act of creation...to which i give credit to the "creative principle" otherwise known as god.

You, on the other hand,
look at Religion (ie mankind) and say..

No Creative Principle can exist,
because some men described it poorly.

Thats your whole case.

That doesnt fly.

[Vulcanic Profile]

chicken or egg? chickens have ancient relitives, it was a dinosaurs first.. everything comes from the the first fish like creatures that went to the land and billions of years and tons of mutations with benifits became the chicken of today. once the first relative of the chicken came out of the water and walked on land started the cycle.

if i am correct 1.5 million years ago the moa is in the chicken family but i never really tryed tracking the chicken all the way back to the primal oceans.

i been trying to find what came out of that soup that created the first apes the reeptile version that became the first apes that became humans.

[Naranja Profile]

I think the chicken was created first.

[Vulcanic Profile]

I think the chicken was created first.

moa came before the chickens or eggs