OMG! The Mayan's knew exactly what 2012 will bring. (Video)
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End? No - a new begining or in otherwords a whole bunch of changes.
Who or what said END? Now thats disinfo ...
Its a cycle .... this is where we throw the ptb out on their asses! Using street terms ...
Who or what said END? Now thats disinfo ...
Its a cycle .... this is where we throw the ptb out on their asses! Using street terms ...
The War FOR Truth began on 9112001.
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gostrider wrote:End? No - a new begining or in otherwords a whole bunch of changes.
Who or what said END? Now thats disinfo ...
Its a cycle .... this is where we throw the ptb out on their asses! Using street terms ...
Thanks
rider , Aladin this is what I'm trying to say, Mother Earth has gone through a cycle for as long as man could draw. A culmination of many events comes around every so often. Planetary changes are the result of the Planet adapting to the movements through the cosmos the changes are throughout the solar system. It's not the End of the world or mankind, however the cycle we are going through at present will lead to a descision for mans future. The technological advancements for the greedy few or the benefit of the many. It has happened before and that is what I see in the art works of these past civilizations. 5 worlds of 5,125 years = 25,625 years. What happenend approx. 26,000 years ago? Now what about approx. 50,000 years ago. How about 75,000 years ago? This cycle may also have a less dominate half time cycle as well every 12,812 years, or appprox. every 13,000 years. 13,000 years the Younger Drias event. Past civilizations attempted to record past events of signifigance. Most every continent has stashed evidence all dateing to the same times in the past. Ice core samples also show every blip on Earths past, do the research this science does not lie. Look for info on Peruvian, Antarctic, and Arctic ice core samples, look for large event rings put them together. You will see that they match, everything from Astroid (comet) impacts, Flash freeze events, volcanic events, global infernos, even our modern day atomic and nuclear above ground detonations. Find the events in ice then compare those events with those described on the stones and scrolls of ancient man. Anything of interest always comes at ones expense.
Most people have to realize that the planet is alive and its home is space, we just happen to live on it. We don't really understand everything about it so to stop arguments everybody who has a closed mind should shut the fuk up. This place is for the open minded. Sorry to be rude but i dont care. The Mayans new something actually all cultures that in the past lived off the land mew something that now a days is slowly being lost> The connection between YOU=earth=universe> The balance that was kept when living their lives. All we are, are the neurons (thoughts) and advanced evolutionized results of creation. To see what i am saying u have to hold the earth in your hands, then zoom in and out till u see that it works alot like YOU. So to put it simple, you go through life stages and changes. So does the planet it just takes longer. It changes and matures just like you. People have to start seeing things with their minds instead of their eyes, bc not everything in this reality is matter. But dont be stupid either.
When a human being cant get their thoughts in their head to work together, it usually doesnt turn out well especially when those thoughts are not working with the body or vessel.
If some of u dont get what im saying, i dont care, change is coming if u like it or not.
just dont be one of those idiots who shoots themselves when it does. keep an open mind for the truth can be stranger then fiction.
MIATRON
When a human being cant get their thoughts in their head to work together, it usually doesnt turn out well especially when those thoughts are not working with the body or vessel.
If some of u dont get what im saying, i dont care, change is coming if u like it or not.
just dont be one of those idiots who shoots themselves when it does. keep an open mind for the truth can be stranger then fiction.
MIATRON
This is what could happen in 2012.... it's even backed up by proper science:
The IBEX Ribbon: Are We in for a New Era in the Sun’s Voyage Through the Galaxy?
is-the-sun-going-to-enter-a-cloud-of-interstellar-gas-read-t22664.html
You act like you have all the answers about 2012 and Niburu etc. aladin... but fact is, you know as much as we do all.... Science has a lot of proof for and against these things.
I think youre a pretty smart guy, but on somethings you are as biased as we all are on some things mate! Just food for thought
The IBEX Ribbon: Are We in for a New Era in the Sun’s Voyage Through the Galaxy?
is-the-sun-going-to-enter-a-cloud-of-interstellar-gas-read-t22664.html
You act like you have all the answers about 2012 and Niburu etc. aladin... but fact is, you know as much as we do all.... Science has a lot of proof for and against these things.
I think youre a pretty smart guy, but on somethings you are as biased as we all are on some things mate! Just food for thought
The Map Is Not The Territory, The Word Is Not The Object....
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It's mostly conjecture and bad mis interpretations... For example, if the date for the last extinction event is correct at 9792 BC, add 2012 to that and you get 11804, HALF a precessional cycle is 13265 years, so that event is nowhere near half a precessional cycle, a whopping 2,453 years out (18.5% error!!).... If we are to believe bad things happens every half a precessional cycle, then something must be tied to the year 10812, because that year is exactly half a cycle back from the 2012 year... NOTHING on google about 10812BC...
Not saying events like this didn't happen, I just don't think they're tied to some sinister cycle of destruction.. it doesn't add up. So many ancients talked about a golden age.. Not very fucking golden if you're drowning in mud is it!
Where did the mayans talk about this 25,630 year cycle? From what I know they didn't even mention it.
What I think they did understand is the vibrations and frequencies given off by planets and stars and how this effects consciousness on a timed evolutionary scale of some sorts.. I think Carl Calleman is onto something.. It's just that it's far less 'glamorous' than the kill and destroy theories out there... You can make almost anything fit these days..
The other things is, there is no evidence that we are coming to the end of the precessional cycle, yet there is evidence of some kind that we are approaching the three quarter point... I think these 4th and 5th Worlds, are just starts and endings of 'World Systems' And these world systems could well be on some kind of greater timed cycle, why not.
If the actual date is said to deliver something to us, whether a light beam or shockwave or something 'instant' There is much evidence that we PAST over the mid point in 1998, there is thickness to the galactic centre, 1980 to 2016.. 2012 is so far past the centre point.. Perhaps they simply ended it on a solstice for the sake of giving the calendar for that period, a kind of closing point.. I'd say the Solstice events were religious and significant times, so why not end it there?
I just don't see how we would be suddenly hit with something so suddenly when 1. We are past the mid point and 2. I doubt such a beam or whatever it is, could be so concentrated as to deliver it's entire power in a split second.... What is more believable? Being struck with some light beam from the galactic core centre which we passed in 1997 btw, at 11:11GMT 2012 ... OR... perhaps we're being bathed in some frequency now (and probably always have been), that's governs evolution of species, ie it emanates from outside the solar system and maybe delivered to us via the sun.....Think about it, the SUN controls evolution, it allows animals and fauna to either live or die, it shapes landscape and the species that reside on it.. Perhaps the earth is a representation of us? I dunno, I just don't see some sudden event, I think it's happening now moment by moment.
Not saying events like this didn't happen, I just don't think they're tied to some sinister cycle of destruction.. it doesn't add up. So many ancients talked about a golden age.. Not very fucking golden if you're drowning in mud is it!
Where did the mayans talk about this 25,630 year cycle? From what I know they didn't even mention it.
What I think they did understand is the vibrations and frequencies given off by planets and stars and how this effects consciousness on a timed evolutionary scale of some sorts.. I think Carl Calleman is onto something.. It's just that it's far less 'glamorous' than the kill and destroy theories out there... You can make almost anything fit these days..
The other things is, there is no evidence that we are coming to the end of the precessional cycle, yet there is evidence of some kind that we are approaching the three quarter point... I think these 4th and 5th Worlds, are just starts and endings of 'World Systems' And these world systems could well be on some kind of greater timed cycle, why not.
If the actual date is said to deliver something to us, whether a light beam or shockwave or something 'instant' There is much evidence that we PAST over the mid point in 1998, there is thickness to the galactic centre, 1980 to 2016.. 2012 is so far past the centre point.. Perhaps they simply ended it on a solstice for the sake of giving the calendar for that period, a kind of closing point.. I'd say the Solstice events were religious and significant times, so why not end it there?
I just don't see how we would be suddenly hit with something so suddenly when 1. We are past the mid point and 2. I doubt such a beam or whatever it is, could be so concentrated as to deliver it's entire power in a split second.... What is more believable? Being struck with some light beam from the galactic core centre which we passed in 1997 btw, at 11:11GMT 2012 ... OR... perhaps we're being bathed in some frequency now (and probably always have been), that's governs evolution of species, ie it emanates from outside the solar system and maybe delivered to us via the sun.....Think about it, the SUN controls evolution, it allows animals and fauna to either live or die, it shapes landscape and the species that reside on it.. Perhaps the earth is a representation of us? I dunno, I just don't see some sudden event, I think it's happening now moment by moment.
aladin wrote:kingz wrote:...
You act like you have all the answers about 2012 and Niburu etc. aladin... but fact is, you know as much as we do all.... Science has a lot of proof for and against these things.
I think youre a pretty smart guy, but on somethings you are as biased as we all are on some things mate! Just food for thought
Cyclic-running transformations are not scientifically documented - there is NO scientific evidence to proceed to the cataclysms on a defined schedule!
There is only each individual independent and unpredictable major events.
... so there is NO PREDICTABLE transformations for 21/12/2012.
NO PREDICTABLE transformations for 21/12/2012.
NO PREDICTABLE transformations for 21/12/2012.
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Please show me your scientific evidence for cyclical changes ...
Esoteric, HMMM I wonder were I have heard that before? Oh wait nevermind, It is what it ia Aladid and ther is a plathra of propper science about tramatic past global changes. They do run in cycles, but I don't pin point any particular day in 2012, why would I it's already in action. 
Anything of interest always comes at ones expense.
The Book which will answer all your questions and raise more on this issue:
Time and The Technosphere, By Jose Arguelles
If we dont have a calendar reform, we maybe be royally screwed
(apparently)
Time and The Technosphere, By Jose Arguelles
If we dont have a calendar reform, we maybe be royally screwed
(apparently)"The Sign of an Educated Mind is that, Which can Entertain a Notion or Idea Without Accepting it"
aladin wrote:g3n3sis wrote:The Book which will answer all your questions and raise more on this issue:
Time and The Technosphere, By Jose Arguelles
If we dont have a calendar reform, we maybe be royally screwed(apparently)
ha ha ha ha ha
- this musicians who studied in CHICAGO !!!!!![]()
... is esoteric inventor ...
... has a broadening of the first places among the dumbing down! ...
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What does music, Chicago, and 1980, have to do with cycles aladin, have you ever been to Chicago. Perhaps someone in Chicago made the 2012 connection because it took that long to desipher the codecies. If it states that it began in 3114 BC on 11th of August, and each 5,125 years, the Long Count enters in to a new worlds' birth. Call it MYSTIC all you want, but these people and their Empire lasted longer than any modern day Empire. How can this be labeled as insignifigant or wrong. Something happened that resulted in a collape and rise of nations and they thought they know why. With so many thousands of years of knowledge it just simply can not be ignored, or called false knowledge.
Anything of interest always comes at ones expense.
Ok aladin you win, I guess I'm one of the esoteric, musicly inclined. Just guess I can't keep up with your ever globally orbitting mind. My feet seem to be permanently planted on the ground, just can not keep my head in the clouds that long, I guess. sorry man, now don't be too disappointed with me. And yes it turns out the nuke idea was a bad one, but now with the understanding of sea floor callapes and methane nitrates, ya I can admit that I was wrong, but I also was'nt talking about a Hiroshima event, oomKay?
Anything of interest always comes at ones expense.
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