Our poor soldiers & what is left of iraq

[Ogmios Profile]

We have to get this straight. It's not just that the US and UK shouldn't have been. They were in effect breaking international law.

The worst thing about it, in my opinion, was the bunch of crude lies concocted by especially the UK government in order to fool parliament. These liars should be held to account. Everyone knew that Iraq could not and would not be launching smallpox in forty-five minutes. They lifted a ten year-old thesis and plagiarised it. They went to the UN and were denyed a legal mandate but went to war anyway. Anyone remember Dr Kelly?

The really sad thin is that they were able to pull it off while so obviously lying through their teeth. We, the British people, had no say except to participate in the largest demonstrations ever seen in this country - estimated to have been attended by almost three million people. If we had I am convinced this debacle would never had taken place and the Iraqi population as well as the troops who paid the blood price could have been spared. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.

[brillbilly]

We have to get this straight. It's not just that the US and UK shouldn't have been. They were in effect breaking international law.

The worst thing about it, in my opinion, was the bunch of crude lies concocted by especially the UK government in order to fool parliament. These liars should be held to account. Everyone knew that Iraq could not and would not be launching smallpox in forty-five minutes. They lifted a ten year-old thesis and plagiarised it. They went to the UN and were denyed a legal mandate but went to war anyway. Anyone remember Dr Kelly?

The really sad thin is that they were able to pull it off while so obviously lying through their teeth. We, the British people, had no say except to participate in the largest demonstrations ever seen in this country - estimated to have been attended by almost three million people. If we had I am convinced this debacle would never had taken place and the Iraqi population as well as the troops who paid the blood price could have been spared. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.

i so agree,i a british person didnt agree with the war,i dont agree with it now,it is in my opinion a outragous

[Lowsix Profile]

It is FREEDOM - if they can keep it.
yea, the kind of freedom you and your family would enjoy too, right? Give me a break with that crap. It is genocide there, nothing less. I bet you would piss your pants if you and your family had to live one week there, so dont act like they got it all good, because it is nothing close. Even under Saddam, they had clean water, gas, electricity, medicine, etc, now they live in the stone ages.

Well, my family probably wouldn't have sabotaged its own restoration/rebuilding efforts either..blowing up their own gas, water, sewers, electical stations and assassinating their own police, holding neighbors hostage for ransom..you know that kind of stuff.

Oh i know..of course it was all justified... but had they just allowed the Corps of Engineers to do the jobs they were sent to do..IE ..REPAIR SHIT..then it wouldnt have taken nearly as long, and we would have been back out of there already.

Shit they went and waged their own civil war against each other, under our noses..
(which was the reason Sadam was so fucking cruel in the first place)

As much as youd like to believe the whole thing has been a black/white type of deal from the beginning...it hasnt. We sent thirty thousand engineers to fix ALL of those problems..but they were sabotaging EVERYTHING.. their OWN water, their OWN sewers, their OWN Electricity...their OWN police forces...their OWN oil refineries and pumping and piping stations..and killing ANYONE who dared help us rebuild..Brilliant strategy.

Yes we were wrong to be there..BUT they were ALSO wrong to shoot themselves in the foot to prevent these repairs from occurring..

Its easy to say its completely our fault, becuase of COURSE we shouldnt have been there (even i say that)...BUT since we were..it would have been in THEIR interest to let us fix shit, instead of blowing it all up and sabotaging it..and slaughtering each other at a rate of about 5:1 over our killing them.

That's the facts on the ground..

Low, fist off let me say I am glad you kept this on an intellectual level and didn't come out slinging insults at me for saying this.

A. I don't think you can blame the civilians for anything, you don't really know who did those things, and you do not know motives either. However we do know this was a false war and an occupation to "liberate Iraq" from it's oil reserves.

B. Personally I know first hand that the marines do false-flag missions all the time there, dressing up like civilians and attacking/blowing stuff up. So to direct this all at the civilians fault is laughable to me, becuase I know why the shit was taken down and kept down.

They are destroying the people there, just like Israel does to Gaza, it is pure Genocide.

Funny how I was reading this article on wwII where the soldiers would get in trouble if they shared any food with the starving civilians, one soldier was arrested for giving a candy bar to a small starving child. This is how our military operates, and just like the video above clearly shows, we destroyed that city, we destroyed that country, we are destroying the people who are left.

You are completely right 100% of the time,
and I'm completely wrong 100% of the time.

I keep forgetting that there is no in between for you..how silly of me..

carry on.

[Mep630 Profile]

nobody cares about the soldiers anymore...

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[Lowsix Profile]

nobody cares about the soldiers anymore...

How could they when people like you, try as hard as humanly possible to consistently portray them in the worst possible light.

Genocidal maniacs, running false flag operations, sabotaging their own repair efforts, and all of the things i credited to the civil war strife in the country YOU attributed to those same soldiers you appear to be lamenting.

The Iraqi Citizens have been sabotaging our repair efforts, but you has this to say about those soliers you pretend to care so much about:

A. I don't think you can blame the civilians for anything, you don't really know who did those things, and you do not know motives either. However we do know this was a false war and an occupation to "liberate Iraq" from it's oil reserves.

B. Personally I know first hand that the marines do false-flag missions all the time there, dressing up like civilians and attacking/blowing stuff up. So to direct this all at the civilians fault is laughable to me, becuase I know why the shit was taken down and kept down.

They are destroying the people there, just like Israel does to Gaza, it is pure Genocide.

I mean who could care about false flag, sabotaging genocidal maniacs...?

Your words, not mine.
I was defending them.
You were attacking them.

At least be consistent in who you reserve your hatred for, cant have it both ways.
Feel sorry for the soldiers while attacking everything good that they have done despite being sent into a war that wasn't ours to begin with, against their wishes, attempting to repair their infrastructure..only to have the public (you) constantly turn on them..blaming THEM for the sabotage and Police assasinations, beheadings and Ransoming which the Iraqi people themselves are responsible for, which you call laughable..

Your quote at the top of the page makes no sense in the light of your own posts..

[Mep630 Profile]

nobody cares about the soldiers anymore...

How could they when people like you, try as hard as humanly possible to consistently portray them in the worst possible light.

Genocidal maniacs, running false flag operations, sabotaging their own repair efforts, and all of the things i credited to the civil war strife in the country YOU attributed to those same soldiers you appear to be lamenting.

The Iraqi Citizens have been sabotaging our repair efforts, but you has this to say about those soliers you pretend to care so much about:

A. I don't think you can blame the civilians for anything, you don't really know who did those things, and you do not know motives either. However we do know this was a false war and an occupation to "liberate Iraq" from it's oil reserves.

B. Personally I know first hand that the marines do false-flag missions all the time there, dressing up like civilians and attacking/blowing stuff up. So to direct this all at the civilians fault is laughable to me, becuase I know why the shit was taken down and kept down.

They are destroying the people there, just like Israel does to Gaza, it is pure Genocide.

I mean who could care about false flag, sabotaging genocidal maniacs...?

Your words, not mine.
I was defending them.
You were attacking them.

At least be consistent in who you reserve your hatred for, cant have it both ways.
Feel sorry for the soldiers while attacking everything good that they have done despite being sent into a war that wasn't ours to begin with, against their wishes, attempting to repair their infrastructure..only to have the public (you) constantly turn on them..blaming THEM for the sabotage and Police assasinations, beheadings and Ransoming which the Iraqi people themselves are responsible for, which you call laughable..

Your quote at the top of the page makes no sense in the light of your own posts..

Well to explain I fell bad for all the soldiers over there and think they should be brought home, I dont hate our soldiers, I hate where they are at and what they are in.

I don't blame the soldiers, I blame the leadership. This is your misunderstanding.

[Mep630 Profile]

so i take it you understand now where I am coming from low?