Out Of Body or Near Death Experiences

Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:40 pm » by **Blotto**

it always baffles me to slush, there just seems to be to many instances were people have had near death experiences, i looked into all this a wile back . then when i was also looking at all the stuff about atoms. i come to the conclussion that theres more to all this than meets the eye. cant help but think along the lines of the matrix , i know it sounds crazy , but when you think about it were all made up of atoms. take photons for instance they can be in 2 diffrent places at the same time, if you can find away to manipulate that effect , then there you have teleportation and possibly cloning,

back to the out of body experiences, theres been cases were people have woke up and told there doctor , that wile they was dead they were floating above, and could see onto top of medicene cabinets, and could even describe what was ontop of them. even though the only way to see ontop is to stand on a chair, its very strange. also the human hearts field can be measured at upto about 13 to 14ft away and the brains field is something like 5 or 6ft ... not sure of the exact measurements as its been a wile . but its around them distances.

thats why i dont laugh at people who talk about weapons that can give you a heart atack, and other crazy stuff, as anything with a field can be manipulated or possibly evn stopped by some other concentrated field canceling out the natural field of your heart.

i also come to the conclusion the only way were ever going to find out is when we die, pretty obvious one i know.

there was that german dr mengler , who use to do all sorts of horrid experiments on jews, like cut there hearts out and watch them die to see the effects. i did end up there when i was looking for stuff on the near death experiences. not nice.

hope you find some answers.

Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:12 pm » by **Blotto**

slushpup wrote:
blotto wrote:it always baffles me to slush, there just seems to be to many instances were people have had near death experiences, i looked into all this a wile back . then when i was also looking at all the stuff about atoms. i come to the conclussion that theres more to all this than meets the eye. cant help but think along the lines of the matrix , i know it sounds crazy , but when you think about it were all made up of atoms. take photons for instance they can be in 2 diffrent places at the same time, if you can find away to manipulate that effect , then there you have teleportation and possibly cloning,

back to the out of body experiences, theres been cases were people have woke up and told there doctor , that wile they was dead they were floating above, and could see onto top of medicene cabinets, and could even describe what was ontop of them. even though the only way to see ontop is to stand on a chair, its very strange. also the human hearts field can be measured at upto about 13 to 14ft away and the brains field is something like 5 or 6ft ... not sure of the exact measurements as its been a wile . but its around them distances.

thats why i dont laugh at people who talk about weapons that can give you a heart atack, and other crazy stuff, as anything with a field can be manipulated or possibly evn stopped by some other concentrated field canceling out the natural field of your heart.

i also come to the conclusion the only way were ever going to find out is when we die, pretty obvious one i know.

there was that german dr mengler , who use to do all sorts of horrid experiments on jews, like cut there hearts out and watch them die to see the effects. i did end up there when i was looking for stuff on the near death experiences. not nice.

hope you wind some answers.

The atom theory is interesting to say the least.. Everything has a rate at which it vibrates as well.. Is the secret to other dimensions as simple as slowing or speeding up our atomic frequency.. Could this open new doors to new planes of existence???
Cool concepts come with this topic.. Multi-Verse comes to mind as well in this line of thinking...........

yes i do agree about the vibrations and frequencys .... kind of like an atomic type reaction were you vibrate and excite the atoms , to create a desired effect , that could be anything from opening a doorway to other higher dimensions, as the human eye can only see around 95% unaided. to teleportation , its all about manipulation . i like the 2 slit experiment were they fire particles photons . at the slits , and as soon as they observe, the photons just go through 1 slit but when there not observing they go through both. what frequencys or vibrations do what effect i dont know. but i think along the lines hitting them with a diffrent vibration , kind of confusing the atoms or particles witch inturn brings out diffrent effects , maybe merging mass particles together . or creating invisability. dont realy know but wish i had the means and equipment to play around with all that stuff. because thats were its all at... and thats why they have spent huge amounts of money on the large hadron colider. its to find more than just the mystery higgs boson.

i also think we get wash overs of these effects naturaly from time to time. due to atmospheric and magnetic effects. that could explain some paranormal events .

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Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:15 pm » by **viggerz**

My mum told me what she saw when she tried to commit suicide.
She said all she saw was a real bright light and like she was above herself.
Shes not religiouse or anything but she swears to me this is what she saw.

Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:23 pm » by **Itofts**

This is a subject which has fascinated me for a long long time, the amount of instances which are baffling like the blind woman who was being operated on. Upon waking was able to tell the doctors & family a lot of details about the rooms, the people etc as she had sight in her out of body experience.
All we need is one story to be true & with all the credible people reporting these things I imagine it's a good probability of being true just maybe not in all cases

Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:24 pm » by **Blotto**

viggerz wrote:My mum told me what she saw when she tried to commit suicide.
She said all she saw was a real bright light and like she was above herself.
Shes not religiouse or anything but she swears to me this is what she saw.

theres to much individual experiences all saying simmilar things. i posted this a wile ago but its relevant to this thread.
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also theres a tv series you might like slush, you probably already seen it, its called fringe covers all kinds of scifi stuff .. its a good watch to spark your imagination.

http://www.free-tv-video-online.info/in ... son_1.html

Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:42 pm » by **Blotto**

i do belive more into the spirituality side of things, i dont hold much sway into the god side of things. as most religions are more of a means of control. the catholic church is worth billions, but they dont seem to do much good, atleast in my eyes they dont.

as for the etheric chair . im not sure , but its a good point. but after pondering it for a bit i dont see why there wouldnt be, im just trying think of a way to put it into words.

something along the lines of when you take a photograth and you get a kind of double exposure , like 2 versions of yourself one solid and the other more ghost like. ive got it in my head but just cant find the words, kind of like an inprint of the orginal. i;ll have to ponder that one some more.

but ancient people from the past do have a good grasp on all this stuff . as they didnt have the distraction we have today.

i have always wondered if theres events through history . similar to the galactic alignment.
were possibly everything merges back into one, singularity ? and at the moment ists split up into diffrent devisions. some good stuff there though slush, Pythagoras and the likes had plenty of time to ponder these questions, without distractions. i can see why they would want to go back through history to try find the answers. some great minds back then.

Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:24 pm » by **Towelie**

During an OBE or NDE the experiencers if they see there gods or religious figures they always see there own, Christians see Jesus, Muslims see Mohammed Buddhists see Buddha they never see the same things, this is a obvious sign that the OBE or NDE is actualy a subconscious thing and not relyant upon any external force, place or thing.
We all have similar subconscious needs and/or desires and its during an apparent NDE or OBE that we tap into and access these, and this is where the basic similarities come from.

Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:53 am » by **Mikemess**

Here's a good Near Death Experience website: http://www.nderf.org/

EXCEPTIONAL NDE ACCOUNTS: http://www.nderf.org/Exceptional%20Accounts.htm

Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:54 pm » by **Blotto**

slushpup wrote:
blotto wrote:i do belive more into the spirituality side of things, i dont hold much sway into the god side of things. as most religions are more of a means of control. the catholic church is worth billions, but they dont seem to do much good, atleast in my eyes they dont.

as for the etheric chair . im not sure , but its a good point. but after pondering it for a bit i dont see why there wouldnt be, im just trying think of a way to put it into words.

something along the lines of when you take a photograth and you get a kind of double exposure , like 2 versions of yourself one solid and the other more ghost like. ive got it in my head but just cant find the words, kind of like an inprint of the orginal. i;ll have to ponder that one some more.

but ancient people from the past do have a good grasp on all this stuff . as they didnt have the distraction we have today.

i have always wondered if theres events through history . similar to the galactic alignment.
were possibly everything merges back into one, singularity ? and at the moment ists split up into diffrent devisions. some good stuff there though slush, Pythagoras and the likes had plenty of time to ponder these questions, without distractions. i can see why they would want to go back through history to try find the answers. some great minds back then.

I agree. I also think that the ancients compared to us may have advanced forward in more spiritual and natural ways than ourselves. We are more technologically based and further removed from that side of ourselves.

I hate to bring this up but it crosses my mind.. Maybe 2012 is a new starting point for mankind where as you say there is an merging of ourselves and we will rediscover a part of ourselves that we now look at as supernatural. That would be an end of sorts! The end of our present state of humanity and awareness of the unseen things around us.
Just a thought...

you might not be to far from the truth there slush, i look at it in a bigger picture type of way, by this i mean take our galaxy, it takes something silly like 200 million years to do a full rotation, so i look at it on an atomic level , atoms can be manipulated , so imagine our part of the galaxy ,ie solar system is moving into a part of space , that is vibrating at a stronger frequency. or a lesser frequency , and possibly this frequency is just the correct one to alter everything on an atomic level , if stuff alters on an atomic level then we would also alter or change form, we get little examples of this from nuclear disasters. like chernobyl were genetic mutations being cuased by the fallout.

so in my eyes , this could be similar to what some ancient scholars told of about a 1000 years of peace. there could be several or more diffrent points on the 200 million year rotation of the galaxy, were our solar system gets bombarded by some as yet unknown vibration or frequency or gamma rays or the likes, that change us on an atomic level.

all speculation of course. this large hadron collider is trying to take them to the next level, as like alot of quantom physics it is still just theorys and speculation, like the higgs boson , some people will be proved correct some will be proved wrong ... it is mind boggling.

Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:06 pm » by **Marduk2012**

Past Life Regression...