Palestinians freedom fighters not terrorists?

Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:21 am » by **Proto**

doommongerer wrote:Sending a f-16 or a tank in heavely populated area is genocide.If you want to see a sick fuck look in the mirror or look at your avatar it's a cruel praying mantis.there's never gona to be peace in your country whit poeple thinking like you.

lol people like me ? people who condemn killing woman's child's and civilians ?
yeah evil me i ashamed to look in the mirror .

i think you are confused a bit , im not claiming all Palestinians are terrorists ,
i want to see the Palestinians free and happy just like any sane person .

but some of the militants organizations of the Palestinians took the path of
terror , you can scream till tomorrow it wont change that fact .

so what you actually supporting the attack of woman children and civilians
in the name of freedom ?

Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:22 am » by **doommongerer**

Wake up Proto,work for peace.dont let your leaders act like nazi's.

Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:35 am » by **Proto**

doommongerer wrote:Wake up Proto,work for peace.dont let your leaders act like nazi's.

that's a bit of arrogant of you don't you think ? you don't know me ,you don't know shit
about me or if i work for peace .

and even though i don't support Israel gov that much ,
the fact that you accuse Israel of acting like nazis show
that you are totally clueless about whats really going on
so really go get a clue .

Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:58 am » by **doommongerer**

proto wrote:
doommongerer wrote:Wake up Proto,work for peace.dont let your leaders act like nazi's.

that's a bit of arrogant of you don't you think ? you don't know me ,you don't know shit
about me or if i work for peace .

and even though i don't support Israel gov that much ,
the fact that you accuse Israel of acting like nazis show
that you are totally clueless about whats really going on
so really go get a clue .

OK i am not in your shoes, excuse my atitude,over here it's how a lot of my folks see israel, we are not american,we too are a minority, but nobody is shooting at us.sensitive topic. :cheers:

Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:35 am » by **Mediasorcerer**

proto wrote:
doommongerer wrote:Sending a f-16 or a tank in heavely populated area is genocide.If you want to see a sick fuck look in the mirror or look at your avatar it's a cruel praying mantis.there's never gona to be peace in your country whit poeple thinking like you.

lol people like me ? people who condemn killing woman's child's and civilians ?
yeah evil me i ashamed to look in the mirror .

i think you are confused a bit , im not claiming all Palestinians are terrorists ,
i want to see the Palestinians free and happy just like any sane person .

but some of the militants organizations of the Palestinians took the path of
terror , you can scream till tomorrow it wont change that fact .

so what you actually supporting the attack of woman children and civilians
in the name of freedom ?

the mossad has taken part in terror acts too by the way,but they dont get the label though do they.

Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:03 pm » by **Proto**

doommongerer wrote:OK i am not in your shoes, excuse my atitude,over here it's how a lot of my folks see israel, we are not american,we too are a minority, but nobody is shooting at us.sensitive topic.

mediasorcerer wrote:the mossad has taken part in terror acts too by the way,but they dont get the label though do they.

such as ?
wait wait , don't tell me... 9/11 ?

*facepalm*

Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:38 pm » by **Velocet**

Thinking back now to a post about retired--er--decommisioned--israeli soldiers hired by the govt. to sit in front of a computer, haunting websites, and youtube (which isn't a website?) spewing forth their biased, "war-mongering" points of view, and frequently flagging material as racist or profane when to any discerning mind it is not[i][/i], well I hate to point fingers, but ...

There appears to be one among us who is a pro-Israel jingoist with sub-par english grammar skills. I just wonder ...

naah!

But to the point! You could say that its just another example of separate religious factions warring over the presumed Holy Land, something that will possibly never be healed, but if one had to pick a side--and very often one does--I would have to say Palestine is 85% in the right, Israel 15%. The American Corporate Jewish media loves Israel. They only have good things to say, and nothing ever published to the contrary, along with plenty of pictures of scared old Israeli women starving and weeping, praying for mercy.

They reality of it is this. Israel is staging a genocide on the Gaza Strip. They daily imprison men and their sons for no crime at all, for an indeterminate amount of time. Every treaty and agreement they've ever made, they have broken when the opportuninity was present. In my opinion they were trained by a bunch of nazi-tortured zionist psychopaths, who received their orders by ruling elite.

P.S. I was talking about Proto there in the beginning, if no one caught on

Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:06 pm » by **Proto**

concrete wrote:what goes around, comes around.

exactly , that goes both ways .

Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:45 pm » by **Aquarius**

Watch the BBC documentary 'Death in Gaza'. Simply unbelieveable.

Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:51 pm » by **Proto**

concrete wrote:In fact, I actually cyber respect you.
I will always debate you (I won't stalk though, thats just feckin creepy).

that's mutual m8 .

concrete wrote:But I think Palestinians are both.
freedom fighter
Definition from Wiktionary, a free dictionary
Singular
freedom fighter
Plural
freedom fighters
1. A person involved in armed conflict against an occupation, or oppressive government, etc.; a revolutionary, an insurgent, a rebel or insurrectionist.
The same person can be branded a terrorist, but only by the oppressor. At the same time, a terrorist by all means can be called freedom fighter in propaganda (e.g. the Contra in Nicaragua were called freedom fighters by Ronald Reagan).

It's a hard thing to comprehend. But, the way I see it. Israel is the oppressor. So you have a right to call them terrorists. If you are either Israeli or an Israeli supporter.

it's not really hard to comprehend , i agree with you that the Palestinians are both .
it's just that i have to draw the line between act of resistance like attacking
soldiers or combatants , which can be classified imo as "freedom fighting",
but when someone intentionally attacks civilians and woman and child then
it's terrorism,that's obviously apply to all sides not just palestinians .

when a kid throws a rock at a soldier he is not terrorist ,but when someone
blows himself up in middle of civilians he is terrorist .
sounds so far fetched to you ?

what you don't see from there and i can see from here , is that the israeli public
want peace, and a solution to this conflict , well,most of the public anyway.

but when palestinians extremists use violence and techniques of
intimidation and death against civilians , it just gives fuel to the minority of
israeli extremists ,that make a big noise over each attack.
it also what keeps the israeli public from pressuring the government to end this
YESTERDAY!

we need to condemn violence from both sides ,because this one sided
attitude just push the moderates into the hands of the extremists .

concrete wrote:I am not. As I'm sure you are aware. I am however quite willing to be one, once the regime in Israel decides that as a mature country, they should start acting it.

well, even though we have different points of views on this situation ,
i can still say that we will both be happier when that day comes , but
i have to add, i think the palestinian society should make it's own
house check just as well .