Pelosi's Insurance or Jail scheme should be stopped

Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:06 pm » by **Theduck**

Sec. 1738. State option to disregard certain income in providing continued
Medicaid coverage for certain individuals with extremely high
prescription costs. (some people are gutted)

Sec. 1756. Termination of provider participation under Medicaid and CHIP if
terminated under Medicare or other State plan or child health
plan.)

Subtitle B—Prevention
Sec. 1711. Required coverage of preventive services.
Sec. 1712. Tobacco cessation. What is cessation :headscratch:

Sec. 1713. Optional coverage of nurse home visitation services.
Sec. 1714. State eligibility option for family planning services.

Who writes this sh*t....

Does anyone else think Medicare and Chip sounds like something you would here about in a sci-fi flick?

Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:15 pm » by **Theduck**

Smoking cessation means "to quit smoking," or "withdrawal from nicotine." Because smoking is highly addictive, quitting the habit often involves irritability, headache, mood swings, and cravings associated with the sudden cessation or reduction of tobacco use by a nicotine-dependent individual.

So what are they trying to say? if you don't start utilising preventative measures you may not be covered..? say if you got lung cancer and didn't utilise cessation you may not be covered..

I think they religiously try to make these bills a task to get through with clarity.

Business Definition for: Cessation
the discontinuation of a business for tax purposes or of its trading on the stock market
Wiktionary Definition for: Cessation
ceasing or discontinuance, as of action, whether temporary or final; a stop; as, a cessation of the war.

Types of cessationist

Cessationists are divided into four main groups:
Concentric Cessationists believe that the miraculous gifts have indeed ceased in the mainstream church and evangelized areas, but appear in unreached areas as an aid to spreading the Gospel (Luther and Calvin, though they were somewhat inconsistent in this position.

Classical Cessationists assert that the "sign gifts" such as prophecy, healing and speaking in tongues ceased with the apostles and the finishing of the canon of Scripture. They only served as launching pads for the spreading of the Gospel; as affirmations of God's revelation. However, these cessationists do believe that God still occasionally does miracles today, such as healings or divine guidance, so long as these "miracles" do not accredit new doctrine or add to the New Testament canon. Richard Gaffin, John F. MacArthur and Daniel B. Wallace are perhaps the best-known classical cessationists.

Full Cessationists argue that along with no miraculous gifts, there are also no miracles performed by God today. This argument, of course, turns on one's understanding of the term, "miracle." B. B. Warfield, J. Gresham Machen, F.N. Lee
Consistent Cessationists believe that not only were the miraculous gifts only for the establishment of the first-century church, but the so-called fivefold ministry found in Eph. 4 was also a transitional institution (i.e., There are no more apostles or prophets, but also no more pastors, teachers, or evangelists).

Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:28 pm » by **Highbridge**

Pelosi is out of touch with the common man to say the least! This kind of monetary burden added to the already high cost of living will bankrupt many people. The threat of jail time is just scare tactics used to get the masses to fall in line with the program. Think of this logically... If they jail everyone that can't pay (or refuses to pay) for this, the government will then not only have to pay for those medical expenses, but will also have to pick up the added costs of incarcerating these people!

But then again, they will just find a way to make the masses shoulder this burden also!

Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:23 am » by **Dirttyrabbit**

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9021231
House Narrowly Passes Landmark Health Care Bill
Landmark health care reform bill clears House in close vote; Senate debate next
WASHINGTON November 7, 2009

Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:47 am » by **jetxvii**

concrete wrote:I bet Obama know what tobbaco cessasion means.

Yeah and I bet you ruined my thread yesterday you drunk fucking bastard!

Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:19 pm » by **Marduk2012**

Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:01 pm » by **jetxvii**

concrete wrote:
jetxvii wrote:
Yeah and I bet you ruined my thread yesterday you drunk fucking bastard!

You ruined your own thread by bumping it because no one was looking at it.
Was your ego hurt?

no my ego is not hurt, and I was just kidding.

but when you come into someones thread and say:

"Have you lost it..

you better not upset me right now I am really drunk and might say something I will regret tomorrow", that usually means you have a drinking problem, and when you threaten to leave and don't leave because you were drunk and said something that you regretted the next day that usually means you have a drinking problem...

so no my ego wasn't sore, and so far all I have seen on that thread is you trying to start shit when it was a really good find, and previously you haven't said anything to me until that thread... so I think you have a problem you need to address and not carry everyone else on your baggage of issues and bring everyone else down. word of advice stay away from here when you are drunk...... so yeah I will blame you for ruining it.

and the reason I bumped it was because I posted it at like 2:30 in the morning and fell asleep. usually people come here in the morning and post new topics or news. so I bumped it once... and you are going to blame me because it has something to do with my Ego? OK you win. after all I am sober as a whip right now and I might say something i regret tomorrow because that happens with sober people all the time.