People will flock to religions

Tue May 25, 2010 6:35 pm » by **Eliakim**

the saint made an excellent point on a different thread and it worthy of its own thread.

"As times will become more confusing again people will flock to religions for answers and again they will be mislead, divided, and made to fight and kill each other for what 'they believe' in. Trying times are fertile ground religious fanatics. It is beyond comprehension to see how little has been learned from history."

That is why it is imperative that religion is discussed and not pushed under the carpet. everything must be allowed to come out into the open so that humanity can break the never ending cycles.

People won't only flock to religions but they will also turn to spiritual people for understanding.

Tue May 25, 2010 6:39 pm » by **Gary19702**

respectfully, I have to say that religion, any religion is not the cure all for what ails the world, common sense however is just what is needed nowadays.

Tue May 25, 2010 6:45 pm » by **Eliakim**

Its not just about the religions either, people fight for all kinds of beliefs systems and that is why the divine plan is to thresh all belief systems that are unhealthy for humanity. The threshing has been going for a long time and its not over yet.

Tue May 25, 2010 7:00 pm » by **Eliakim**

gary19702 wrote:respectfully, I have to say that religion, any religion is not the cure all for what ails the world, common sense however is just what is needed nowadays.

Agreed gary, not one has brought peace to humanity and they have all had enough opportunity to do so. Their time is up (and their religious leaders) and as we told people nearly a decade ago the tower of babel will fall again just like it did last time. That's why in New Jerusalem there is no temple or place of worship. God does not ask for worship, he asks that we work with him hand in hand side by side for the good of humanity and help raise it up out of its transgressions of the spiritual law of the cosmos.

The sacred union with the divine is the cure for all ills and it is time for sublime audacity.

Common sense can be viewed in different ways....

When humanity understand that they are clairsentient beings and are in harmonic concordance with it; harmony of common sense can reign supreme.

My view is that new science, new biology and new physics will co-create a domino effect. However, many of the educators of the educators in academia are required to step out of the way and allow the cutting edge to help humanity to go across the new frontiers of being. There are far too many stakeholders and shareholders inhibiting the progress and evolution of humanity and human consciousness. It can even be witnessed on this forum.

Tue May 25, 2010 7:27 pm » by **Eliakim**

concrete wrote:
eliakim wrote:
People won't only flock to religions but they will also turn to spiritual people for understanding.

So.
Why the hate?
Are muslims less? Are Christians? Are jews? Are Bhuddists?
Are .......

You talk shit IMO.
At least when I do, I admit it.

I have no interest in addressing people such as you concrete. The more that you choose to transgress the spiritual law of the cosmos the more you will pay the consequences. Its called cause and effect.

When you learn some manners, I will be happy to respond to your questions. Until that time comes I will not read any more of your comments. The only place for children like you is to put them to bed until they wake up in a new and better frame of mind.

Did you know that is why so many of humanity are asleep? They do not get to experience the joy, bliss and divine love of God.

I recommend a book for you called 'The Homecoming' by John Bradshaw.

God speed you with the healing process.

Tue May 25, 2010 7:30 pm » by **Gary19702**

eliakim wrote:Its not just about the religions either, people fight for all kinds of beliefs systems and that is why the divine plan is to thresh all belief systems that are unhealthy for humanity. The threshing has been going for a long time and its not over yet.

logic and reasoning, unbiased common sense. this is the way. the spiritual is fine, but too many cultures have different belief systems that will and do clash, using this structure as a peace moderating platform is inherently flawed. pure unbiased common sense is key and crucial to the road of peace and understanding, not replacing "bad" belief systems with "good" ones. that only perpetuates the struggle of man by saying that the beliefs of others are not as good as the ones held by the ones who want to clear out competing beliefs which is a biased way of doing things and will only lead to more struggles ahead. common sense for common ground is a logical step in the right direction. what you suggest is a dangerous thing that not need be. common sense embraces all walks of life, belief systems included, trying to eradicate the ones that do not jive with yours, mine and anyone elses will only divide us and destroy any good that may benefit us all through mutual understanding and tolerance. I respect your views with religion, though an atheist am I, there are just too many different belief systems to coherently unite us all through what sounds to be religious and spiritual cleansing. again unbiased common sense and logic applied to the human condition will only benefit all of mankind, not certain mindsets and egos. the spiritual path is a personal thing that should never have been made to be commonized and put into a group setting. that is where mankind went wrong.

Tue May 25, 2010 7:33 pm » by **Phaeton**

People won't only flock to religions but they will also turn to spiritual people for understanding.

This is what is the biggest risk imo. Always depending on others for 'understanding'.
I can just feel you <insert hand-rubbing, evil smiley here> drooling with anticipation for this to happen eliakim. You will be right there waiting for these confused and scared flocks, Im sure.

Indeed, this 'artificial dependence' on others in understanding nd/or interpreting religions, spritual concepts / aspects, is the catalyst for the creation of hyrarchy. Removal from the ability to analyse and reason for onesself. One of the biggest factors contributing to Man's vulnarability of being deceived, being opressed. Being held from 'truth'.

No more. If we need to learn anything at all from History and our present state, it is the above stated (impo).

:cheers:

Tue May 25, 2010 7:34 pm » by **Mep630**

Religion and Spirituality are opposites.

Tue May 25, 2010 7:43 pm » by **Mahsooyee**

"People will flock to religions"...yes they will continue to do so, sadly!

Tue May 25, 2010 7:55 pm » by **Gary19702**

mep630 wrote:Religion and Spirituality are opposites.

religions are the spiritual based belief systems that are the pooled common beliefs of a culture or people. religion is an offshoot and by product of spirituality predating written history. they are forever entwined, yet seperated by different beliefs. this is why this topic is a sticky point with most people. no one ever really truly shares the same belief. the stigma of the church structure in history has distorted spirituality, the personal belief of something higher than us all into a social structure that has become regimented. it should not have been that way. that's why the spirtual minded person is a different creature alltogether from the religious minded. so yes, indeed religion and spirituality are polar opposites of the same coin. apart yet bound together