Will do, Sheeple, thanks for the tip




I should have used Tom's Organic Toothpaste!!

Cheerio, but it could be an incubus (or even incubi) instead.

I am surprised that you connect this particular post with smurfs.
To my knowledge, I'm not blue, neither lainn is.
Well, I may know the ginger smurf but that's another story...

According to your logic, could you also call Terrence McKenna and Graham Hancock smurfs as well?

I have respect for McKenna, but Puharich doesn't cut it with me, and Bosman is just a DJ that did too much ecstacy.

Sheeple, the numbers 4 and 8 have been used by Carlos Castaneda as well.
Do you think there is a connection between his writings and the ancient numerology?

listen....i know that there are many streams ....some wacky, some absolutely unbeleivable, some that are imbalance to one side or the other.....this existence that all of us are experiencing carry doors...doors that have keys...all keys do not fit all locks surely and the funny thing is ...regardless of faith, color, creed, and all the other things(ect) that to all have by now been exposed in the lessons that sepratism denies.....we live in an intresting time fellow human and within you there are knowings and explorations of the mechanics of this thing we call life that are applicable to I......Spock...i speak to you because i know your understanding is ther....if you and i read a book...the same book that had loads of applicable knowledge written throughout the pages....in the respect that both of us live different experiences but the same on the scale of life...isn't wise to be aware that what you take from that book as applicable...a word...a line...a paragraph...may not be the same that i take that same book that applies......emotions aside and labels as well....if we can get pass the film that's on the surface we can absorb what's underneath....in an endevor to find ballance...and when found and applied to individual thought in respect of each others individual experience....it then becomes possible to share....throw away what is not needed but open to embrace that one one word,,,,sentence ...pargraph that applies to the forging of the key that opens the door not selfishly but selflessly to all.....isn't that why Christ was king of Kings....even though he had the power to manifastate what he wanted he chose selflessly to heal and bring to the awarness of others the choice in attaining the knowledge that we create our own realities...surely the healing of others gave him access to the healing of himself....surely he could have came down off of that cross with ease....remember the lesson underneath the film at the surface....

I'm saying this because their is strength in unity of thought...if we allow each other to absorb...you and others here have given many a time over...and regardless of the knowledge of my true intent i give thanks to ALL presented in this crossing of the roads and intersecting point labeled DTV...that holds a purpose greater than you and I and any other here....but we still haven't found away to harness what is presented completely correctly.....at the birth of emotion was the birth of motion and will seems to be a catolyst to confusion....

If we desire and conquer our human emotions i beleive we can attain higher hights.....i write this here because i think that an exploration of the mechenic of our unexplored reality and the parts of our brains that are worth study have gone on to long hidden....effectively the choice here is to add or subtract....i find it more useful to add to one another but that which is applicable to ones experience that feeds into all.

in the highest respect ..yes....enough with the emotions and that goes to both extreams...it's counter productive.

and just to clear the assumption.....i am not smurf...i just explore all with no alegeince or loyalty to non...it is my way..this you should know...

I never knew Castaneda or his teachers ever placed special significance on those numbers.
They didn't deal much in numerology, to my knowledge.

The nagual is composed of four parts.
That's why Don Juan was dreaming about Carlos having three parts, Carlos was in a way incompatible.
The nagual and his team consist of 8 entities to be able to experience the fire from within.

elaborate please....i don't understand completely....no sarcasim...i'm sincerely intrested.

Yeah, I remember the group being 8 in number, I just didn't see a big connection.

I dug Castaneda, honestly I thought much of his work seem more based on Western mystical concepts than Native American, I think he used metaphor a lot.

It's also strange what his scene turned into with the Tensegrity stuff and those creepy "Chacmool" chicks.

He wrote some great books but I wouldn't take him too literally.

John, that's interesting, he probably was given an access to some esoteric teachings.
Another think that captured my attention is the death certificate:
http://www.sustainedaction.org/Images_Documents/Castaneda_death_cert.htm
1) He was born on Christmas and died between the Catholic and Orthodox Easter days.
2) He supposedly died on 4/27/1998 while the copy of the death certificate was issued on 4/22/1998 ?!