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PostTue Oct 26, 2010 7:33 pm » by Otomon


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1. God is the infinitely good and merciful Father. But man, called to respond to him freely, can unfortunately choose to reject his love and forgiveness once and for all, thus separating himself for ever from joyful communion with him. It is precisely this tragic situation that Christian doctrine explains when it speaks of eternal damnation or hell. It is not a punishment imposed externally by God but a development of premises already set by people in this life. The very dimension of unhappiness which this obscure condition brings can in a certain way be sensed in the light of some of the terrible experiences we have suffered which, as is commonly said, make life “hell”.

In a theological sense however, hell is something else: it is the ultimate consequence of sin itself, which turns against the person who committed it. It is the state of those who definitively reject the Father’s mercy, even at the last moment of their life.

2. To describe this reality Sacred Scripture uses a symbolical language which will gradually be explained. In the Old Testament the condition of the dead had not yet been fully disclosed by Revelation. Moreover it was thought that the dead were amassed in Sheol, a land of darkness (cf. Ez 28:8; 31:14; Jb 10:21f.; 38:17; Ps 30:10; 88:7, 13), a pit from which one cannot reascend (cf. Jb 7:9), a place in which it is impossible to praise God (cf. Is 38:18; Ps 6:6).

The New Testament sheds new light on the condition of the dead, proclaiming above all that Christ by his Resurrection conquered death and extended his liberating power to the kingdom of the dead.

Redemption nevertheless remains an offer of salvation which it is up to people to accept freely. This is why they will all be judged “by what they [have done]” (Rv 20:13). By using images, the New Testament presents the place destined for evildoers as a fiery furnace, where people will “weep and gnash their teeth” (Mt 13:42; cf. 25:30, 41), or like Gehenna with its “unquenchable fire” (Mk 9:43). All this is narrated in the parable of the rich man, which explains that hell is a place of eternal suffering, with no possibility of return, nor of the alleviation of pain (cf. Lk 16:19-31).

The Book of Revelation also figuratively portrays in a “pool of fire” those who exclude themselves from the book of life, thus meeting with a “second death” (Rv 20:13f.). Whoever continues to be closed to the Gospel is therefore preparing for “eternal destruction and exclusion from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might” (2 Thes 1:9).

3. The images of hell that Sacred Scripture presents to us must be correctly interpreted. They show the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy. This is how the Catechism of the Catholic Church summarizes the truths of faith on this subject: “To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called ‘hell’” (n. 1033).

“Eternal damnation”, therefore, is not attributed to God's initiative because in his merciful love he can only desire the salvation of the beings he created. In reality, it is the creature who closes himself to his love. Damnation consists precisely in definitive separation from God, freely chosen by the human person and confirmed with death that seals his choice for ever. God’s judgement ratifies this state.

4. Christian faith teaches that in taking the risk of saying “yes” or “no”, which marks the human creature’s freedom, some have already said no. They are the spiritual creatures that rebelled against God’s love and are called demons (cf. Fourth Lateran Council, DS 800-801). What happened to them is a warning to us: it is a continuous call to avoid the tragedy which leads to sin and to conform our life to that of Jesus who lived his life with a “yes” to God.

Eternal damnation remains a real possibility, but we are not granted, without special divine revelation, the knowledge of whether or which human beings are effectively involved in it. The thought of hell — and even less the improper use of biblical images — must not create anxiety or despair, but is a necessary and healthy reminder of freedom within the proclamation that the risen Jesus has conquered Satan, giving us the Spirit of God who makes us cry “Abba, Father!” (Rm 8:15; Gal 4:6).

This prospect, rich in hope, prevails in Christian proclamation. It is effectively reflected in the liturgical tradition of the Church, as the words of the Roman Canon attest: “Father, accept this offering from your whole family ... save us from final damnation, and count us among those you have chosen”.



HEAVEN AND HELL ARE STATES OF MIND!!!!

I kept descending .....lower and lower.... when I got to the bottom of Hell,I looked up and saw a far off ligth,from that ligth came a booming voice that said "DAWN IS VERY FAR NOW"
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PostThu Oct 28, 2010 7:44 pm » by Otomon


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PostFri Oct 29, 2010 11:12 pm » by Mikeizon


QUESTION? anyone know why he weres a yamika? or what appears to b one?

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PostFri Oct 29, 2010 11:14 pm » by Septeloid


mikeizon wrote:QUESTION? anyone know why he weres a yamika? or what appears to b one?

The zucchetto (plural zucchetti, Italian for "small gourd"), also called pileolus in Latin, is a small skullcap worn by clerics of the Roman Catholic Church and within Anglicanism and Lutheranism. It was first adopted for practical reasons — to keep the clergy's tonsured heads warm in cold, damp churches — and has survived as a traditional item of dress. It consists of eight panels sewn together, with a stem at the top. Its name may derive from its resemblance to half of a pumpkin, or from the fact that it covers a larger "pumpkin" (i.e., the head). Its appearance is almost identical to the Jewish Kippah, though its significance is quite different.
All ordained members of the Roman Catholic Church are entitled to wear the zucchetto.
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PostFri Oct 29, 2010 11:16 pm » by Mikeizon


septeloid wrote:
mikeizon wrote:QUESTION? anyone know why he weres a yamika? or what appears to b one?

The zucchetto (plural zucchetti, Italian for "small gourd"), also called pileolus in Latin, is a small skullcap worn by clerics of the Roman Catholic Church and within Anglicanism and Lutheranism. It was first adopted for practical reasons — to keep the clergy's tonsured heads warm in cold, damp churches — and has survived as a traditional item of dress. It consists of eight panels sewn together, with a stem at the top. Its name may derive from its resemblance to half of a pumpkin, or from the fact that it covers a larger "pumpkin" (i.e., the head). Its appearance is almost identical to the Jewish Kippah, though its significance is quite different.
All ordained members of the Roman Catholic Church are entitled to wear the zucchetto.

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PostFri Oct 29, 2010 11:22 pm » by Otomon


mikeizon wrote:QUESTION? anyone know why he weres a yamika? or what appears to b one?


The pope was a polac jew!! How ironic that the current pope is a german dude who used to be in the nazi youth! XD

Also notice the bad-ass expression that John Paul makes in the first pic i posted... he is holding his hands against his eyes in a binocular shape ...like he is saying "LOOK FOR THE TRUTH BITCHES",I also heard old John paul was shot a couple of times by some random guy,HOW BADASS IS THAT? MOVE OVER 50 CENT! HE COMING IN THE NAME OF JEEEESUS!
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PostFri Oct 29, 2010 11:25 pm » by Mikeizon


lolol yeah thats a very odd picture the symbolism is such a smack in the face

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PostSun Oct 31, 2010 11:31 am » by Otomon


About John Paul II,Fatima Prophecies and Freemasons:

We all heard the story about the three sick children from Portugal,who saw a mysterious white floating lady a couple of times,and how she told them three critical prophecies for the Catholic church.

On August 1917 a Freemason who was mayor of Ourem at the time named Artur Santos,proceeded to arrest the children to prevent them from reporting any more apparations and to report what they had already seen

As early as July 1917 it was claimed that the Virgin Mary had promised a miracle for the last of her apparitions on 13 October, so that all would believe. What transpired became known as "Miracle of the Sun". A crowd believed to be approximately 70,000 in number,including newspaper reporters and photographers, gathered at the Cova da Iria. The incessant rain had finally ceased and a thin layer of clouds cloaked the silver disc of the sun such that it could be looked upon without hurting the eyes.Lúcia called out to the crowd to look at the sun. Sometime while Lucia was pointing towards the sun and claiming to have visions of various religious figures in the sky, it is believed that the sun appeared to change colors and to rotate like a fire wheel. Then it seemed as though the sun would crash down to earth. For some the sun appeared to fall from the sky before retreating, for others it zig-zagged. The phenomenon is claimed to have been witnessed by most people in the crowd as well as people many miles away. While the crowd was staring at the sun, Lucia, Francesco, and Jacinta were staring at a lovely sight. A picture of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph... the holy family.


The prophecies themselves seem like non-sense and their meaning could be debatable(if there is any meaning),you can google them if your interested but for the purpose of this post I will tell you the official meaning that the Catholic church came up with....

1)Demons and Fire = World War II

2)Peace in Russia = End of Communism

3)The church did not reveal the third secret until June of 2000,40 years later after one of the kids insisted should have been revealed,the official meaning of the prophecy is that the Pope was going to get shot,he was shot on May 1981.
I am energized 13 I am CHRISTalized 13 I am amplified 13 I detach from the illusions of matter 13 I no longer choose to play the unconscious role 13 I listen to my intuition 13 I am in my flow 13 I break free from all negative soul ties 13



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