Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

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Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

Post by SamueltheLion » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:18 pm

teloc wrote:what man can think of is possible..

all things have to go through ze mind first..

if someone thinks the universe is a computer.. well, go ahead pal.. may tron be with u!!

but..

a computer does nought by himself..

he needs to be programmed..

:mrgreen:


yeah man, definitely, hence me saying some pages back: it is sloppy to even phrase the question in such a way: is the universe a computer? no.

is it contained in a computer? maybe, but how would we find out.

anyway, loving the new signature.

the spirit of destruction, undestroyed, eh? (:

me likey

:hugging:

Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

Post by Teloc » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:10 pm

what man can think of is possible..

all things have to go through ze mind first..

if someone thinks the universe is a computer.. well, go ahead pal.. may tron be with u!!

but..

a computer does nought by himself..

he needs to be programmed..

:mrgreen:

Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

Post by SamueltheLion » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:39 pm

i had some thoughts on the subject: i talked to a physicist a while ago about the infinite graininess and the difficulty of locating sub-sub-sub-atomic particles (lower than quarks?) ( whatever they are, you know... those things which they can't quite find!) and so on, and the vast emptiness of space, and the loneliness that goes along with it, and the observations on the nature of reality...

Well, sometime ago, i was walking along a windy path, and i saw the leaves of last autumn, which had been slowly ground to dust over the course of the winter, yet some parts remained which were being blown about, and i thought to myself: hey wait a second; infinite graininess! Maybe, what remains of the passion and intensity of past civilizations, is turned to pulp with time, yet something always remains, the seed of life is passed on, things grow, and seemingly out of nowhere to boot.

and maybe, if they ever stopped growing, time would cease to exist, because it would be an unnecessary mechanism; given that there would be nothing conscious, nothing living, wishing to observe any part of itself, in duality of mind; in separation, or opposite nature, contrary and or contradictory to itself.

but could that ever happen? can life ever be totally wiped out? i don't believe so, it always finds away...

sometimes i am depressed about how small things are, or how big they are, and how small i am, but then i realize: It's really all just about the relationships; whatever level of existence you operate on, it's about the relationships you have at that level, not about the size of the body you are inhabiting. After all, what if we are but the cells of some giant wild animal, and we THINK we are big? where's the real difference? for me this is like the ultimate "don't-take-yourself-too-seriously" mind-fuck-trip; we are to the planets what cells are to us, and maybe planets are to some galactic god-zilla b-movie creature, what we are to them!

after all, what is the size of a sperm and an egg, compared to that of the full grown life-form?
or what is the size of the seed of a tree, compared to that of a hundred year old oak?

then, now, begin to think: what is the size of the origin and source of consciousness, compared to all that it creates?

how big are your hands, compared to all the things they have ever worked on, guys and girls? (unintended sexual innuendo, disregard)

a thousand points of light, kind of stuff.

understand the basics, and you will understand the "complicated" also.

Imo, it's late and i should end my rambling on a coherent note to end the dissonance, I will just say one last thing: (...stalling, stalling... oh shit i forgot again, oh wait here it comes...)

what if passion is the only truth there ever was, is, and will be?

what if we are the ones who created the rules of the universe, so we could enjoy our playground here?

what if the intensity of our desire, causes the atoms to smash together and create life, so that we can cause and resolve this cosmic drama?

what if there truly is no end to the mystery, because we made this puzzle one level too hard for our brains to solve, and we secretly desire to never be able to solve it, because if we ever did, that would be the end of this beautiful game, guys and girls what if? (:

<3

i love you all

i'll see you when it's less (or more) complicated

indubitably

:hugging:

Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

Post by Iamthatiam » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:23 pm

Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

Post by Iamthatiam » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:21 pm

cornbread714 wrote:Any remarks?


IAMTHATIAM! :flop:

Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

Post by Iamthatiam » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:47 pm

rydher wrote:See ya Iam. Just remember you are the one that challenged me in this thread. Sleep well. :lol:


I called you an idiot, when you confirmed your presence here to be just one more idiotic imature performance from DTV's 'favourite' baiter!!! You tried to manipulate me, and failed...Arguing, because the answers weren't enough, and never will be, to someone as obtuse and narrow minded as you! You are a malicious mofo, and deserve the 'reputation' that follows :flop:

Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

Post by Cornbread714 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:42 pm

I got a question.


How many Einsteins are there on DTV?
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The bottom line:
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Any remarks, Rhyder or IAM?

Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

Post by Iamthatiam » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:37 pm

Spock, your OP goes with this: The world, in a sense, may be a hologram. The idea comes from black hole physics. In the 1970s researchers knew that when an object becomes part of a black hole, two things happen. One, all the detailed information about that object is lost. And two, the surface area of the black hole's event horizon (the point of no return for infalling matter and energy) grows. The first fact seemed to violate the second law of thermodynamics, because one of the lost details was the object's entropy, or the information describing its microscopic parts. But the second fact offered a way out: if entropy must always grow, and a black hole's surface area must too, perhaps for the black hole they are one and the same, and information is somehow stored on the horizon.

Fast forward to 1993. Two particle physicists working separately conclude that the universe itself must store information in a similar way. Quantum mechanics starts with the assumption that information is stored in every volume of space. But any patch of space can become a black hole, nature's densest file cabinet, which stores information in bits of area. Perhaps, then, all that's needed to describe a patch of space, black hole or no, is that area's worth of information. The idea is called the holographic principle, after the way that a hologram encodes 3D information on a 2D surface.

Recently, Raphael Bousso, while at Stanford University, helped formulate a more precise and more broadly applicable statement of the principle that involves light rays. "The world doesn't appear to us like a hologram, but in terms of the information needed to describe it, it is one," Bousso says. "The amazing thing is that the holographic principle works for all areas in all space times. We have this amazing pattern there, which is far more general than the black hole picture we started from. And we have no idea why this works. What this is telling us is, there is a description of the world we should be looking for which will be more economical than the one that we have right now, and will presumably have to do with quantum gravity."


Imagine the following; the higher dimensional states of being can MOLD this Physical Universe, like a Computer Programer does inside a Virtual Enviroment...There are also a set of rules to be followed in order that the scripts could be applied, and the Phenomena would be caused by Entities that learned how to manipulate the root routines of this Matrix Sys!

Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

Post by Rydher » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:27 pm

See ya Iam. Just remember you are the one that challenged me in this thread. That challenge ended up with you not being able to answer either of my questions and you typing out insult after insult. While declaring to everyone what your 'credentials' are, trying to convince anyone reading the interaction that you are obviously just so much smarter.

Sleep well. :lol:

Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

Post by Iamthatiam » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:16 pm

Bye, ryndher :flop:

:cheers:

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