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Re: Crop Cirlces ... If they aint Baroque then dont fix em

Post by Hesop » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:47 am

Another interesting story:

By John Lundberg

Hungary's not renound for it's crop circles... but during 1992 crop circle fever gripped the nation.

On the night of June 8th 1992 a 36 meter diameter crop circle appeared in a wheat field near Szekesfehervar, 43 miles southwest of Budapest. The circle was spotted by sea rescue helicopter pilot Laszlo Otvos on June 26th who reported his sighting to the press. Soon afterwards UFO 'experts' from all over the country were flocking to Szekesfehervar to investigate the circle. One claimed to have measured 'abnormal' levels of radiation in the circle, but despite this warning thousands of people visited the site... many camped out, waiting for UFOs to appear, some even placed their children in the circle, hoping for them to be infused with whatever 'magical energy' the circle possessed. Others believed they were in contact with the 'crew' of the UFO that made the circle. But the owners of the field, Aranykalasz Co. - a collective farm - weren't so enthusiastic... the shear volume of visitors had caused extensive damage to their crops.

In time, several 'witnesses' came foward claiming to have seen UFOs hovering over the field prior to the appearance of the crop circle... a young boy explained how he saw a yellow dome-shaped object fringed with red light and his father claimed to have seen a clearly-outlined rectangular mass of light. Ufologist Laszlo Marnitz, spoke to the daily newspaper 'Kurir' about the alleged extra-terrestrial visit, he explained how the crop circle could only have been made by a UFO because the crop was not broken, just bent down.
On September 3rd 1992 Hungarian TV's Channel One broadcast a show hosted by Sandor Friderikusz that exposed the circle as a hoax. Two local students Gabor Takacs and Robert Dallos, both 17 and from the St. Stephen Agricultural Technicum - a high school specializing in agriculture - explained how they had made the circle with a stick! They said it took them about three hours (!) to make and proved their case by showing photos of the field before and after the circle was made. The TV show was hugely successful. Unfortunately for the boys, a bit too successful... Aranykalasz Co. sued the youngsters for Fts.630,000 (approx £5,000) in damages. But the court eventually ruled that the boys were only responsible for the damage caused in the 36 meters diameter circle, amounting to about Fts.6,000 (£47). They concluded that 99% of the damage to the crops was caused by the thousands of visitors that flocked to Szekesfehervar following the media's promotion of the circle. The fine was eventually paid for by the TV show, as were the boys legal fees.

Famed US skeptic James Randi visited Budapest in January 1992. Whilst there he was asked to address the winners of a science essay competition for high-school students. Touched by their eagerness and fresh enthusiasm for the subject he founded a $300 prize for the best investigation of paranormal phenomena by students using scientific methods, irrespective of its conclusion. Applications were invited and the best contribution was selected by a committee consisting of scientists. The "crop circle kids" - as they were dubbed - were awarded the first James Randi Prize on February 7, 1993 by Gyula Bencze a physicist with the Central Research Institute for Physics, in Hungary.

So... a legal precedent has been set. In this case the circlemakers were only asked to recompense the farmers for the loss of crop 'within' the circle. Hungary is not yet in the European Community but this ruling could be quoted if any British farmers decide to take legal action against circlemakers. It's interesting to see that this ruling also implied that 99 per cent of the damage caused in this particular case was due to the mass trespass that followed the media's promotion of the event. Again this seems like an important legal precedent...


So, even though the ordinary circle was made by teens (admittedly so)......
In time, several 'witnesses' came forward claiming to have seen UFOs hovering over the field prior to the appearance of the crop circle... a young boy explained how he saw a yellow dome-shaped object fringed with red light and his father claimed to have seen a clearly-outlined rectangular mass of light.


So who do you believe? The kids or the alleged witnesses?

Re: Crop Cirlces ... If they aint Baroque then dont fix em

Post by Hesop » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:15 am

Just one of the many pages that came up searching circle makers. Thought you'ld like it :mrgreen:

Re: Crop Cirlces ... If they aint Baroque then dont fix em

Post by Darrylmckay » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:12 am

hesop wrote:Come on guys, you know how to do searches, right?

http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/crop-circle-makers/

Testimony claims crop circles made by “alien allies” of humanity

by Jacques Pelletier
The Canadian National Newspaper

Crop circles are geometrical formations of flattened crops found in many countries but mainly in England. They have been found in wheat, barley, canola, rye, corn, linseed and soy.

There has been much controversy concerning the origins of crop circles. However contactees now testify to the origins of much “crop circles”. One contactee who has been willing to identify himself as ‘Adrian’ to crop circle special investigative researcher Sean David Morton.

Adrian testifies that alien races from the Andromeda Galaxy are one of the main extraterrestrial races most responsible for crop circles. He further makes representation from his reported alien contact with this Off-world civilization from the Andromeda Galaxy, that “the crop circles are intended both to inspire humans with the possibility of extraterrestrial communications, and to warn those of the consequences of their actions to control and manipulate humanity”, which in part, takes the form of so-called “Globalization”.

Andromedans are apparently seekers of “peace and wisdom”, who are concerned with “the collapse of the social, cultural and environmental consciousness of civilization” on Earth. Earthbound elites are apparently pursuing such a ‘collapse’ to institutionalize in their “New World Order” greed-driven “Globalization” agenda. These Earthbound elites constitute a political-military-industrial complex.

Adrian’s testimony of contact with aliens from the Andromeda Galaxy, which neighbours Earth’s Milky Way Galaxy, was supported by extensive photos, film and witness testimonies, that have been documented in Sean David Morton’s, “The Man Who Fell to Earth.”

Andromedans have been described as being “very beautiful,” and as well, lithely built and very thin.” Contactee testimony also further describes this race as “so spiritually evolved that they no longer require a physical body. They are almost beings of light energy. They are illuminated in light. They are very tall and stand eight to ten feet in height. In mythology, they were referred to as the Winged gods.”

Contactess also indicate that “they are beautiful beyond description and humankind shadows fragments of that beauty. They have taken care of humanity because they consider us as their brothers and sisters. They believe that we all came from the same source and that we were all created in light. It is the common bond between us.”

Known to Al-Sufi about AD 905, M31 is the famous Andromeda galaxy, Andromeda is our nearest large neighbour galaxy. The Milky Way is the galaxy which is the home of our Solar System together with at least 200 billion other stars (more recent estimates have given numbers around 400 billion) and their planets, and thousands of clusters and nebulae.

Reportedly, spacecraft from the Andromeda Galaxy “have the ability to go in hyper-light so that, in only a matter of moments, they can be here from an entirely different star system.” (Reference: EarthStar), which provide them with an ability to make crop circles on Earth.

According to ‘Adrian’, the “Andromedans” play an important role in forming “explorative” councils that deliberate on Earth’s future. Adrian’s testimony is consistent with the testimony of Alex Collier’s, who is a critically acclaimed and well documented contactee of the “Andromedans”.

The Andromedans’ primary reported activity is to facilitate decisions of spiritually enlightened and socially progressive constituents of the “Galactic community” in ethically dealing with difficult problems such as the current Earth situation; innovative strategies for resolving conflict. Other reported “Andromedan” activities include inspiring critical faculties for self-education, and inspiring humanity with the possibilities of extraterrestrial contact.

Reportedly, as an enlightened “Off-world” civilization, Andromedans, and the other similarly enlightened groups which they represent, forbid themselves from ‘interfering’ in the affairs of humanity. However, these alleged “Andromedans” seek to inspire humanity through their communication, in a manner which will facilitate the liberation of humanity from a course of Earth human elite-led self-destruction. Apparently “Andromedans” are concerned with a range of vital issues which include oppression on Earth, Global Warming, and other planetary threats related to the self-determination and sovereignty of humankind.

It is not hard to imagine that such an enlightened race of aliens could not simply seek to deliver their messages to the very mass-media on Earth that is controlled by elites who seek to deny the existence of sentient intelligent life in the universe beyond Earth humans. Crop circles therefore would provide a means of delivering messages to a mass-human audience, in the hopes that human beings with elevate states of consciousness would be able to appreciate the messages.

The stated purpose of reported alien “Allies of Humanity” (in association with the “diplomacy” efforts of “Adromedans”) as published by Marshall Vian Summers, “is to alert us to the risks of emerging into a Greater Community of intelligent life and to assist us in successfully crossing this great threshold in such a way that human freedom and self-determination can be preserved.”

However, contactees also allege that many groups connected to an “Andromeda-led Council wanted nothing to do with humanity, based upon the “vibrations” they witnessed from Earth, which expressed Earth’s descent into a culture of greed-driven violence and oppression. Contactees claim that the “Andromedan Council”, who is a group of enlightened beings from 139 different star systems that come together and discuss what is going on in the galaxy.

:mrgreen:


Thanks Hesop, that is quite simply the biggest load of crap I have ever read.

Re: Crop Cirlces ... If they aint Baroque then dont fix em

Post by Hesop » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:56 am

Come on guys, you know how to do searches, right?

http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/crop-circle-makers/

Testimony claims crop circles made by “alien allies” of humanity

by Jacques Pelletier
The Canadian National Newspaper

Crop circles are geometrical formations of flattened crops found in many countries but mainly in England. They have been found in wheat, barley, canola, rye, corn, linseed and soy.

There has been much controversy concerning the origins of crop circles. However contactees now testify to the origins of much “crop circles”. One contactee who has been willing to identify himself as ‘Adrian’ to crop circle special investigative researcher Sean David Morton.

Adrian testifies that alien races from the Andromeda Galaxy are one of the main extraterrestrial races most responsible for crop circles. He further makes representation from his reported alien contact with this Off-world civilization from the Andromeda Galaxy, that “the crop circles are intended both to inspire humans with the possibility of extraterrestrial communications, and to warn those of the consequences of their actions to control and manipulate humanity”, which in part, takes the form of so-called “Globalization”.

Andromedans are apparently seekers of “peace and wisdom”, who are concerned with “the collapse of the social, cultural and environmental consciousness of civilization” on Earth. Earthbound elites are apparently pursuing such a ‘collapse’ to institutionalize in their “New World Order” greed-driven “Globalization” agenda. These Earthbound elites constitute a political-military-industrial complex.

Adrian’s testimony of contact with aliens from the Andromeda Galaxy, which neighbours Earth’s Milky Way Galaxy, was supported by extensive photos, film and witness testimonies, that have been documented in Sean David Morton’s, “The Man Who Fell to Earth.”

Andromedans have been described as being “very beautiful,” and as well, lithely built and very thin.” Contactee testimony also further describes this race as “so spiritually evolved that they no longer require a physical body. They are almost beings of light energy. They are illuminated in light. They are very tall and stand eight to ten feet in height. In mythology, they were referred to as the Winged gods.”

Contactess also indicate that “they are beautiful beyond description and humankind shadows fragments of that beauty. They have taken care of humanity because they consider us as their brothers and sisters. They believe that we all came from the same source and that we were all created in light. It is the common bond between us.”

Known to Al-Sufi about AD 905, M31 is the famous Andromeda galaxy, Andromeda is our nearest large neighbour galaxy. The Milky Way is the galaxy which is the home of our Solar System together with at least 200 billion other stars (more recent estimates have given numbers around 400 billion) and their planets, and thousands of clusters and nebulae.

Reportedly, spacecraft from the Andromeda Galaxy “have the ability to go in hyper-light so that, in only a matter of moments, they can be here from an entirely different star system.” (Reference: EarthStar), which provide them with an ability to make crop circles on Earth.

According to ‘Adrian’, the “Andromedans” play an important role in forming “explorative” councils that deliberate on Earth’s future. Adrian’s testimony is consistent with the testimony of Alex Collier’s, who is a critically acclaimed and well documented contactee of the “Andromedans”.

The Andromedans’ primary reported activity is to facilitate decisions of spiritually enlightened and socially progressive constituents of the “Galactic community” in ethically dealing with difficult problems such as the current Earth situation; innovative strategies for resolving conflict. Other reported “Andromedan” activities include inspiring critical faculties for self-education, and inspiring humanity with the possibilities of extraterrestrial contact.

Reportedly, as an enlightened “Off-world” civilization, Andromedans, and the other similarly enlightened groups which they represent, forbid themselves from ‘interfering’ in the affairs of humanity. However, these alleged “Andromedans” seek to inspire humanity through their communication, in a manner which will facilitate the liberation of humanity from a course of Earth human elite-led self-destruction. Apparently “Andromedans” are concerned with a range of vital issues which include oppression on Earth, Global Warming, and other planetary threats related to the self-determination and sovereignty of humankind.

It is not hard to imagine that such an enlightened race of aliens could not simply seek to deliver their messages to the very mass-media on Earth that is controlled by elites who seek to deny the existence of sentient intelligent life in the universe beyond Earth humans. Crop circles therefore would provide a means of delivering messages to a mass-human audience, in the hopes that human beings with elevate states of consciousness would be able to appreciate the messages.

The stated purpose of reported alien “Allies of Humanity” (in association with the “diplomacy” efforts of “Adromedans”) as published by Marshall Vian Summers, “is to alert us to the risks of emerging into a Greater Community of intelligent life and to assist us in successfully crossing this great threshold in such a way that human freedom and self-determination can be preserved.”

However, contactees also allege that many groups connected to an “Andromeda-led Council wanted nothing to do with humanity, based upon the “vibrations” they witnessed from Earth, which expressed Earth’s descent into a culture of greed-driven violence and oppression. Contactees claim that the “Andromedan Council”, who is a group of enlightened beings from 139 different star systems that come together and discuss what is going on in the galaxy.

:mrgreen:

Re: Crop Cirlces ... If they aint Baroque then dont fix em

Post by Daemonfoe » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:55 am

psiman wrote:The formation was first spotted mowed over June 27. It was added to July 10 and this incident with the shooter was July 13.
Odd. I wonder why he only carved out a perfect doughnut and left it like that for 13 days. This is really strange.

psiman wrote:Other than doug & dave and circlemakers where are these other teams? Sources?
I wonder that as well. You'd think we would have heard about them by now. This has been going on for quite some time now.

Re: Crop Cirlces ... If they aint Baroque then dont fix em

Post by Cognoscenti » Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:59 pm

I spoke with Steve Alexander at the Summer Crop Circle lecture series in Devizes a couple of weeks ago and he is furious that he was MISQUOTED in that article. What he said was that we know that SOME crop circles are made by people, but that they don't explain the whole phenomenon. He cites the balls of light that he and others have filmed over the genuine crop circles as evidence that something truly anomalous is going on. The mass media is controlled by the powers that be and they do not want you to know the truth!

Re: Crop Cirlces ... If they aint Baroque then dont fix em

Post by Daemonfoe » Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:33 pm

hesop wrote:Or maybe even it was one of those unfinished ones no one has seen, but because of the farmer, and his pigeon hunter, they had to wait three days to get back and finish it. Seeing the damage, the repairs were made by simply making it smaller, to fit inside the newly created circumference.
Just a thought

Right, right. I'm just curious about why the farmer carved a perfect doughnut. I can totally see that happening, it's just the doughnut that throws me off.

Re: Crop Cirlces ... If they aint Baroque then dont fix em

Post by bugmenot » Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:44 pm

Re: Crop Cirlces ... If they aint Baroque then dont fix em

Post by Drextin » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:49 am

Yeah those "elusive" unfinished ones are tricky.

Nice job on finding the crop circle thread hesop. I hear its almost impossible to do so. Must be your special mod powers. :D

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