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Re: German Court ‘Makes the World Tremble’

Post by Iwanci » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:52 am

They only buy out those that want to be bought out.

Why do EU countries listen so intently to Germany? Why do they accept German bailouts and associated conditions? Why? Becuase they want to, and some may argue they need to.

Beggars cannot be chosers unfortunately. Rest assured that if EU countries decided to break away and stop accepting German aid, and if they started accepting other foreign aid, they would be just as screwed as they are now.

The blame is not Germany's, it is the own doing of the country involved. Greece, Spain, Italy, etc do not have to accept German aid... but they chose to because it serves them well to do so.

Germany has a high court that yields great amount of power, so what? If you push everything out to its natural conclusion you may find that the EU will eventually be run entirely by Germany and its judicial system. So what? They may actually do a better job for these countries than the countries themselves are currently doing.

And please, do not link what is happening in the EU at present day to WW2, it is a ludicrous and ridiculous argument and it shits me no end when people try to make that connection.

At any rate, I am on the other side of the world, and we didnt even feel a ripple let alone a tremble.

Go Germany, you seem to have your shit sorted, let those that want your help abide by your every condition, they can always go to China for aid, and we all know how humble, noble and willing they are to provide unconditional assistance, NOT!

Re: German Court ‘Makes the World Tremble’

Post by Mydogma » Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:50 am

mykingdomforthetruth wrote:I've always said this About the EU.

Germany never stopped fighting WW2 When they realised they were losing they just put down the Luger and picked up a Fountain pen.

Yep they just buy us out with monopoly money...

Re: German Court ‘Makes the World Tremble’

Post by mykingdomforthetruth » Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:34 am

I've always said this About the EU.

Germany never stopped fighting WW2 When they realised they were losing they just put down the Luger and picked up a Fountain pen.

German Court ‘Makes the World Tremble’

Post by Willease » Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:41 am

September 13, 2012 • From
The stability of the world now turns on Germany’s leadership in Europe. And no one seems concerned?

Judges of Germany’s Constitutional Court arrive to give their verdict on Germany’s ratification of the European Stability Mechanism and fiscal compact on September 12 in Karlsruhe, Germany.
(Matthias Hangst/Getty Images)

Every fiber of my being wants to write about this week’s barbaric attacks on America in Egypt and Libya, and the radical Islamist Iran-Egypt-Libya triumvirate that now haunts the world. But I won’t, because on September 12 another event equally as chilling, as exciting, and as prophetically significant, occurred in Europe.

This too needs your eyes and thoughts.

“This is a judgment that makes the world tremble!”

That’s how the Bild, Germany’s most popular newspaper, described this week’s pivotal ruling by Germany’s Constitutional Court. On September 12, a date of prophetic significance, the world held its breath as eight men and women in red robes and odd hats decided whether or not it is legal for Germany to continue to bail out Europe.

At stake was nothing less than the global financial system: If the Constitutional Court said no, the eurozone would collapse, undoubtedly setting off a global financial panic. If it said yes, Europe would likely survive, at least for a few weeks or months longer. As you have probably heard, the court approved of Berlin bailing out its neighbors (with some significant conditions).

But let’s forget what the court said for a moment, and step back and consider what it means that an obscure German court was able to hold the world rapt. On Tuesday morning, just as the court was about to deliver its ruling, it was reported that its website had been swamped to the point of being overloaded. The world, it seemed, was tuning in to listen to the decision and read the fine print.

Has there ever been a federal court capture the attention of so many?

Notice what Gerald Flurry wrote about this court in 2009: “Judicially, Germany is the only nation boasting a high court, the German Constitutional Court, whose power exceeds that of the European Court of Justice! The powers of the latter trump all judicial powers of the individual high courts of the other EU member nations” (emphasis his). In his article, Mr. Flurry explained that Germany would increasingly use this court to hijack Europe.

That’s exactly what happened this week.

According to the 2009 ruling by the Constitutional Court, before Germany can agree to any change to the Lisbon Treaty, or the expansion of EU power, the new law must first be approved by the German parliament. This is huge. Germany sits at the geographic heart of Europe, has the largest population, and is Europe’s financial and political leader. Therefore, when it comes to creating new EU laws and policies, Germany’s acceptance or rejection of these laws and policies determines whether they live or die.

This means that as EU lawmakers create laws and policies, as they construct and manage the EU, they are forced to take into account the German Constitution, the German Parliament, and German public opinion. Basically, no major new EU law or policy (such as rescuing the eurozone) can be successful without first being endorsed by Germany.

Hence, the world trembles while Germany decides its fate!

Compare this to Britain, a supposed heavyweight in the European Union. Here, daily papers are filled with Euroskeptics lamenting the way British laws are being routinely challenged and overridden by the European Union, or the European Court of Human Rights. It’s the same throughout Europe. Brussels is creating laws and establishing policies, and every EU member state is compelled to go along. Except one.

Now, consider the actual ruling. The court said that Germany can continue to provide funds to the bailout mechanism, as long as the German Parliament approves any increase in Germany’s contribution. It also ruled that the German parliament must be kept fully informed about the details of the esm’s activities, despite EU law saying these must be kept secret. ... 012en.html

This was the ruling many anticipated, and it augments Berlin as the decision-maker when it comes to Europe’s debt crisis. In real terms, the ruling will likely buy Europe time as Germany and others funnel money into rescuing the likes of Greece and others. But the crisis will return. Too many states, including behemoths like Spain and Italy, will inevitably need massive bailouts. But the esm, as it has been approved, is too small for Spain and Italy, not to mention the other possible candidates (Belgium, Austria and France, for starters). At some point, probably sooner rather than later, the esm will need more money.

At that time, the decision as to whether Germany can contribute more money—as stipulated by the Constitutional Court this week—will have to be made by the German parliament!

When that moment rolls around, Europe and the rest of the world will once again tremble as Germany decides its fate!

And Europe’s courtroom drama is not over. In early 2013, Germany’s Constitutional Court will rule on the European Central Bank’s latest plan to save the eurozone. The ecb announced last week that it would buy government debt in what it called “Outright Monetary Transactions.” To be eligible, nations will be told to sign away much of their sovereignty over taxation and spending plans. But now, once again, Europe will have to wait as the German court decides if it’s okay for Germany to endorse these measures.

In the meantime, the EU is even now forging ahead with Germany’s vision for Europe. In his state of the union speech, also on September 12, European Commission President José Manuel Barroso called for Europe to become a “federation.” ... anguage=en

“A deep and genuine economic and monetary union, a political union, with a coherent foreign and defense policy, means ultimately that the present European Union must evolve,” he said. “Let’s not be afraid of the words: We will need to move towards a federation of nation states …. This is our political horizon.”

In his speech, Barroso called for a “federation of nation states.” Although he said such an entity wouldn’t be called a “superstate,” that’s very much what he was describing. A spade is still a spade even if you refer to it as a blunt-edged horticultural implement.

Barroso also made it clear that forming “this federation of nation-states will ultimately require a new treaty.” He said this despite the fact that nearly every nation in Europe does not want a new EU treaty. Even Germany’s traditional allies, the northern eurozone states, don’t want a new EU treaty. But guess who does want a new EU treaty? Germany!

Talk about being hijacked!

European nations have no interest in pursuing another EU treaty. Yet, because this is Germany’s vision for Europe, federalizing further and forming a new EU treaty ends up being a key part of the EU’s state of the union speech.

In 1954, Herbert Armstrong wrote, “Nothing can prevent Germany from completely dominating Europe. Soon there will be the prophesied united Europe—the resurrected Roman Empire—with Germans in complete domination. IT’S PROPHESIED! It is hurtling on toward the destruction of America and Britain” (co-worker letter, Sept. 18, 1954). Mr. Armstrong was referring to prophecies in the biblical books of Isaiah, Daniel, Nahum, Hosea, Revelation and elsewhere that foretell the emergence in the last days of a newly resurrected Holy Roman Empire—led by Germany!

That German superstate is now here.

It hasn’t yet finished forming. The Catholic Church will take on an even more central, overt and sinister role. We will soon see emerge a decisive, supremely powerful German personality. And if you think Germany has too much leverage over Europe’s finances now, wait till you see what happens in the coming months.

If you haven’t already started, now is the time to begin studying Bible prophecy, specifically those prophecies relating to Germany and the Holy Roman Empire. A German-led, Catholic-inspired European empire is building. You need to know how it will affect America, Britain and the rest of the world, how powerful it will ultimately become, how its reign will end, what will come after it is gone, and what you can do to escape its grip.

We can help you answer these questions. Request your free copy of Germany and the Holy Roman Empire. ... man-empire