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Re: What is this Object Photographed over Canadian Lake?

Post by 999plan » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:36 pm

blacky wrote:
I can honestly say that brillbill wouldnt be the type of person to fake his photos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!but at the end of the day the type of site this is you do have to question the evidence that is put in front of you so fair play to you 999 plan!
:cheers:



Absolutely, Blacky, and I do and did retract the harsh tone and inference. Likewise just trying to get at the Truth with a very critical-looking eye. I think we all should continue to do that ... that of course includes me and my stuff as well; that's basically all I'm getting at.

Edit: Keep up the great searching Brill and everyone ... some pics on this site really are unexplainable so that's where the fun really begins ....

:cheers: :sunny:
"999"

Re: What is this Object Photographed over Canadian Lake?

Post by Blacky » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:52 pm

999plan wrote:
brillbilly wrote:999 thanks for your input on my pictures and let me just state a fact that i have only been on pc for about a year,i dont have any photoshop knowledge as others on here will know.i have a £60 vivitar digital camera,i take pics put them on my windows xp microsoft camera and scanner wizard and download,then in to windows to have a look if i find anythin wierd i take a look,if i dont know what it is i keep and now i know how to put them here thats all i do,but i do use webresizer to get them to the 250kb.i have never tamperd with the pics but my words will meen nothing to people that dont know me.clouds is fine bugs are fine but as for me putting a smug on the lense.please dont think thats my mo.i take 1000s of pictures of the sky as im medicaly retired and stay at home.i take pictures of sundogs and chemtrails/contrails,i have pictures of ufos or lights in trails,please go look please run through a photo shop i have nothing to hide the pics are as they are,thanks :cheers:


Ok, that being said, and I really have no desire to publicly discredit you or anyone else for that matter ... all I'm saying is that what you call a "shadow" is impossible to be a shadow created by the pink "thing" in the picture. The sun would need to be shining from the ground for that to be possible. Or if we said this was closer to sunset time, the Nibus clouds would show conclusive poof that the light is directly shining on them. This picture does not show that.

Could the "shadow" be something else other than a cloud? Absolutely. What? I have no idea. But the pink "thing" is not producing it as a shadow; that's all I'm saying. Could there have been some pink material like lipstick or makeup on your scanner? That could be, but who knows. Are you very sure that the pink thing is actually within the photo and not just on the surface of the photo? I suggest you double check that. Take a close look under a magnifying glass and make sure there's no defect on the photo surface itself. If there is none and it actually is in the photo, then that tells me that the two objects (the dark "shadow" and the pink "thing") are completely unrelated to each other. They are both there, but than they are at different relative elevations to each other.

I'm just trying to offer you my truthful evaluation of what I see. Another alternative would be to submit the actual photo to a test lab and if they came back that the object is really there, I would change my mind about it just being a smudge. It could be an internal print defect as well so I would suggest having it reprinted again. Keep in mind that reproducibility is one of the main ingredients in proving that something is indeed real.

Those are just some additional suggestions ...

Once again, no finger pointing (I admit I may have jumped the gun a little bit on that without physically seeing the actual photo) so I apologize in that regard. I'm just trying to help you determine what it is or maybe how it was produced. That's all!

Good Luck!
:cheers:
"999"


I can honestly say that brillbill wouldnt be the type of person to fake his photos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!but at the end of the day the type of site this is you do have to question the evidence that is put in front of you so fair play to you 999 plan!
:cheers:

Re: What is this Object Photographed over Canadian Lake?

Post by brillbilly » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:48 pm

thanks cornbread i dont know what it is and if i said ufo that only meens that i cant identify it not that its an alien craft,lol,.i wish i was like some of you guys and could doctor things but im a novice.i dont mind atall having my photos picd and disected but not nice to be told that i my tarnish my name buy putting doctord pics up when i cant yet even get a dam vid up here lol,but all is cool@ 999 all is cool mate,i havnt a clue what it is and if lipstic i would like to know whos as i live alone,i welcome any answers and if its is cotton or a smudge then im happy with that,i did take pictures after that 1 and nothing is on them,i said shadow just as to my perseption and you are right about the sun angles as i was on my patio,but all i know mate is thats on the picture and i have looked at it zoomed and dont have a clue.but thanks for your input :cheers:

Re: What is this Object Photographed over Canadian Lake?

Post by 999plan » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:39 pm

brillbilly wrote:999 thanks for your input on my pictures and let me just state a fact that i have only been on pc for about a year,i dont have any photoshop knowledge as others on here will know.i have a £60 vivitar digital camera,i take pics put them on my windows xp microsoft camera and scanner wizard and download,then in to windows to have a look if i find anythin wierd i take a look,if i dont know what it is i keep and now i know how to put them here thats all i do,but i do use webresizer to get them to the 250kb.i have never tamperd with the pics but my words will meen nothing to people that dont know me.clouds is fine bugs are fine but as for me putting a smug on the lense.please dont think thats my mo.i take 1000s of pictures of the sky as im medicaly retired and stay at home.i take pictures of sundogs and chemtrails/contrails,i have pictures of ufos or lights in trails,please go look please run through a photo shop i have nothing to hide the pics are as they are,thanks :cheers:


Ok, that being said, and I really have no desire to publicly discredit you or anyone else for that matter ... all I'm saying is that what you call a "shadow" is impossible to be a shadow created by the pink "thing" in the picture. The sun would need to be shining from the ground for that to be possible. Or if we said this was closer to sunset time, the Nibus clouds would show conclusive poof that the light is directly shining on them. This picture does not show that.

Could the "shadow" be something else other than a cloud? Absolutely. What? I have no idea. But the pink "thing" is not producing it as a shadow; that's all I'm saying. Could there have been some pink material like lipstick or makeup on your scanner? That could be, but who knows. Are you very sure that the pink thing is actually within the photo and not just on the surface of the photo? I suggest you double check that. Take a close look under a magnifying glass and make sure there's no defect on the photo surface itself. If there is none and it actually is in the photo, then that tells me that the two objects (the dark "shadow" and the pink "thing") are completely unrelated to each other. They are both there, but than they are at different relative elevations to each other.

I'm just trying to offer you my truthful evaluation of what I see. Another alternative would be to submit the actual photo to a test lab and if they came back that the object is really there, I would change my mind about it just being a smudge. It could be an internal print defect as well so I would suggest having it reprinted again. Keep in mind that reproducibility is one of the main ingredients in proving that something is indeed real.

Those are just some additional suggestions ...

Once again, no finger pointing (I admit I may have jumped the gun a little bit on that without physically seeing the actual photo) so I apologize in that regard. I'm just trying to help you determine what it is or maybe how it was produced. That's all!

Good Luck!
:cheers:
"999"

Re: What is this Object Photographed over Canadian Lake?

Post by Blacky » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:36 pm

brillbilly wrote:999 thanks for your input on my pictures and let me just state a fact that i have only been on pc for about a year,i dont have any photoshop knowledge as others on here will know.i have a £60 vivitar digital camera,i take pics put them on my windows xp microsoft camera and scanner wizard and download,then in to windows to have a look if i find anythin wierd i take a look,if i dont know what it is i keep and now i know how to put them here thats all i do,but i do use webresizer to get them to the 250kb.i have never tamperd with the pics but my words will meen nothing to people that dont know me.clouds is fine bugs are fine but as for me putting a smug on the lense.please dont think thats my mo.i take 1000s of pictures of the sky as im medicaly retired and stay at home.i take pictures of sundogs and chemtrails/contrails,i have pictures of ufos or lights in trails,please go look please run through a photo shop i have nothing to hide the pics are as they are,thanks :cheers:


I will back you up on that Brillbill!
I know how you are on the pc and we have had to help each other before now so keep the pics coming! :flop: :flop: :flop:
:cheers:

Re: What is this Object Photographed over Canadian Lake?

Post by Cornbread714 » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:30 pm

brillbilly wrote:999 thanks for your input on my pictures and let me just state a fact that i have only been on pc for about a year,i dont have any photoshop knowledge as others on here will know.i have a £60 vivitar digital camera,i take pics put them on my windows xp microsoft camera and scanner wizard and download,then in to windows to have a look if i find anythin wierd i take a look,if i dont know what it is i keep and now i know how to put them here thats all i do,but i do use webresizer to get them to the 250kb.i have never tamperd with the pics but my words will meen nothing to people that dont know me.clouds is fine bugs are fine but as for me putting a smug on the lense.please dont think thats my mo.i take 1000s of pictures of the sky as im medicaly retired and stay at home.i take pictures of sundogs and chemtrails/contrails,i have pictures of ufos or lights in trails,please go look please run through a photo shop i have nothing to hide the pics are as they are,thanks :cheers:


I believe you, Brill. I don't believe in rods, though. I don't know if they are camera glitches or bugs, but I've not seen anything that makes me think they are anything special.

All you rod-believers, what do you think they are? Alien craft?

Re: What is this Object Photographed over Canadian Lake?

Post by brillbilly » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:04 pm

999 thanks for your input on my pictures and let me just state a fact that i have only been on pc for about a year,i dont have any photoshop knowledge as others on here will know.i have a £60 vivitar digital camera,i take pics put them on my windows xp microsoft camera and scanner wizard and download,then in to windows to have a look if i find anythin wierd i take a look,if i dont know what it is i keep and now i know how to put them here thats all i do,but i do use webresizer to get them to the 250kb.i have never tamperd with the pics but my words will meen nothing to people that dont know me.clouds is fine bugs are fine but as for me putting a smug on the lense.please dont think thats my mo.i take 1000s of pictures of the sky as im medicaly retired and stay at home.i take pictures of sundogs and chemtrails/contrails,i have pictures of ufos or lights in trails,please go look please run through a photo shop i have nothing to hide the pics are as they are,thanks :cheers:

Re: What is this Object Photographed over Canadian Lake?

Post by 999plan » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:42 pm

brillbilly wrote:im not sure if rods are real creatures or ufos or bugs caught funny with camera but i took this picture and it looks like a pink rod casting a shadow on the cloud,how the hell a bug could cast a shadow on a cloud is out of my depth but look at this pic ,look to the right corner,this is wierd http://www.disclose.tv/members/action/p ... th_shadow/


Brillbilly, thanks for sharing the picture. But respectfully, I'm going to try and pick this one apart. First, the "shadow" appears to be on the underside of the cloud. Check out how the sun's light is hitting the top or back side of the clouds. That would always happen as long as you are observing this from the ground. Now, if you were in a jet flying over this cloud formation, it could be possible for an object like this pink smudge to cast a shadow down below, but then the fallacy here is that you would see the Earth's surface in the background. Clearly, there is no ground so this picture was taken from the ground as you say. So what you call a cast "shadow" is physically impossible due to where the sun is and where you are (the ground) in respect to the these clouds.

So the question becomes what then is the "shadow"? Although the "shadow" is irregularly rectangular, I believe it is either a darker cloud on the front side of the cloud or a rectangular-shaped cloud opening to a darker cloud behind the white cloud. That however would be strange because Nimbus (dark) clouds are usually closer to the ground. Could this "shadow" be a "rod" or cylindrical craft? Possibly, with the detail mildly obscured or inside the cloud.

Now, as far as the "pink smudge" goes ... I'm afraid you need to fess up here. When one takes a little liquid and a pencil erasure to a grayish color, it results in exactly what you have shown here ... a semi-translucent smudge that appears pink in color. Whether you have intentionally doctored this photo or it just happened by accident that maybe the liquid landed or the scuff mark was produced in a seemingly appropriate position, well that's a matter for your own personal conscience.

As for the second photo with the kyte in it, that is more intriguing to me and I'll give it some more consideration. But after doing the above analysis of this first photo and disproving its legitimacy from my perspective, respectfully I am very cautious to believe that this is in some way unaltered.

I apologize if this sounds very harsh, but I'm just telling you what I see, and I believe anyone else with actual photographic experience who would actually examine the photo would come to the same or similar conclusion.

I know you want so much to believe and so do I, but we have to be very truthful and very meticulous with our findings. I challenge you to continue your efforts, but please, only present something that is potentially legit. Be much more critical with your findings. Don't present something just for the mere purpose of some level of recognition. It does you no good in the long run and will be short lived, and challenges your credibility which from that point forward would always be suspect. More importantly though, it supports the claims by the other non-believer side that we are nothing but a bunch of quacks rather than legit truth seeking scientists and observers.

Peace!
:cheers: :sunny:
"999"

P.S. I'm not asking for a public omission (which would be nice) but just truthful findings, OK!

Re: What is this Object Photographed over Canadian Lake?

Post by Blacky » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:28 pm

pindz wrote:good vid Blacky
heard about NANO PROBES ?


Upload to Disclose.tv


watch the whole nano probe series there is about 5-6 vids
yes , the smallest UFOs are big like apples
dont need to discuss this, because its true :flop:


Nice vid Pindz!! :flop:
Havent heard of them before!
Will have to watch the other vids now!
:cheers:

Re: What is this Object Photographed over Canadian Lake?

Post by brillbilly » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:24 pm


and this is the reason we have to be so carefull with pictures people,whats in the picture can be seen in different ways,good find rizze good find blacky.Any of these when in motion can be rods and a huge cigar shaped ufo that is viewed from a distance can be seen as a rod.i love ufos,cool work peeps :cheers:

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