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Re: Opinions on Bob Lazar.

Post by Poooooot » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:15 pm

^ :flop:

Re: Opinions on Bob Lazar.

Post by E6722maj » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:29 pm

@Poooooot i realised that you may not have meant that the lights were orion, rather that they were similar to them, hence my bracketed disclaimer. :cheers:

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Re: Opinions on Bob Lazar.

Post by I2haveseen » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:20 pm

ZetaRediculous wrote:Then there is his time at Los Alamos... George Knapp states he found Lazars' name in a phone directory, but Stanton Friedman has shown that you only need to be a contractor to Los Alamos to get your name in there and Lazars company United Nuclear Scientific Equipment and Supplies was a supplier to every one from law enforcement to schools, so to think he might have supplied Los Alamos is not out of the question.



?????Not sure the dates work for that....
In 2000 Lazar started United Nuclear Scientific Equipment and Supplies, an amateur scientific supply company initially operated in Sandia Park, New Mexico, which then moved to Laingsburg, Michigan. United Nuclear sells a variety of materials including radioactive ores, powerful magnets, and other scientific curiosities like aerogel, as well as a variety of lab chemicals. United Nuclear claims "over 300,000 satisfied customers," and these customers include law-enforcement agencies, schools and amateur scientists as well as individual amateur scientists and students.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar# ... d_Supplies




@ Poooooot Was obvious to me :cheers:

@ Cia212 Just reread this thread. Think we've (or at least i have) missunder4stood the connotation, yet it seems our denotation is the same..... lol. You know how i said he was alive because he talke to the right peeps at the right time. Well maybe he had some insurance too (aka (something like): 115 delivered to media if i die/dissapear).....

Re: Opinions on Bob Lazar.

Post by Quantummystic » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:08 pm

the other thing with the lazar story that is interesting(if true) is that Jim Goodall got so much heat for asking a simple question about the notorious paystub... Goodall comes off as sincere too.

Re: Opinions on Bob Lazar.

Post by Poooooot » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:19 pm

I2haveseen wrote:@ E6722maj Think she/he means the formation 'looks' like orions belt (not actually the belt)

Yeah, exactly. Thanks. :flop:

Re: Opinions on Bob Lazar.

Post by Poooooot » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:19 pm

E6722maj wrote:
Poooooot wrote: "That UFO formation looks like Orion's Belt."


stars? seriously? i doubt that most profoundly (if you're saying that's a possible explanation) :nope:

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No no no. The UFO's were blinking and they formed Orion's belt. I don't think they were stars. I'm not saying it was aliens for sure (I personally think it probably was, but I can't state my opinion as fact), but it definitely wasn't stars. And whatever it was (UFO's or otherwise) formed what looked like Orion's belt.

I've noticed a LOT of UFO groups throughout the years seem to make formations. And the fact that this one seems to be Orion is really interesting to me. Orion is a very important constellation.

Re: Opinions on Bob Lazar.

Post by Cia212 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:28 am

I2haveseen wrote::headscratch: I don't understand your semantics??????
That part has been proven false.


What has bneen proven false?

That Element 115 is stable. And I misspoke there - all known isotopes are unstable, but it may be possible to find one that is stable. I found 2 references to a stable version of 115 but it's just theoretical so far.

Wiki says that, theoretically, 229 would be stable but there is no known method of creating that isotope.

All the reported above isotopes of element 115, obtained by nuclear collisions of lighter nuclei, are severely neutron-deficient, because the proportion of neutrons to protons needed for maximum stability increases with atomic number. The most stable isotope will probably be 299Uup, with 184 neutrons, a known "magic" closed-shell number conferring exceptional stability, making it (with one further proton outside the "magic number" of 114 protons) both the chemical and the nuclear homolog of 209Bi; but the technology required to add the required neutrons presently does not exist. This is because no known combination of target and projectile can result in the required neutrons. It has been suggested that such a neutron-rich isotope could be formed by quasifission (fusion followed by fission) of a massive nucleus, multi-nucleon transfer reactions in collisions of actinide nuclei, or by the alpha decay of a massive nucleus (although this would depend on the stability of the parent nuclei towards spontaneous fission).

Re: Opinions on Bob Lazar.

Post by I2haveseen » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:06 am

:headscratch: I don't understand your semantics??????
That part has been proven false.


What has bneen proven false?

Re: Opinions on Bob Lazar.

Post by Cia212 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:55 am

I2haveseen wrote:Now you want to explain how proton bombardment dosen't cause nuclear decay (become unstable)? Cause that's exactly what proton bombardment is used for. And that's exactly what he's saying (back in '91 mind you). IDK what you mean? Can you explain what you mean?

It does. I was only referring to your statement that
Urmmm, E115 à (alpha) decay's way to quick to 'keep for later'.

Bob claims the isotope he stole is stable, so it doesn't decay without the bombardment - in other words it is quite easy to keep it for later.

Bob claims the government has around 500 pounds of the stuff in storage. In the interview I saw, Bob was purposely vague about the amount of material he acquired, but it's presumably enough that it could be studied. To my original point, why hasn't Bob come forward with the Element 115 sample?

I found a reference to a Lear interview wherein Lear claims the sample was stolen, but that comes from Edgar Fouche. I've talked to Ed in person and online, and I don't trust him as a source...but that's another story.

Re: Opinions on Bob Lazar.

Post by I2haveseen » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:19 am

Ok (took a bit, but thimk I) found it.

On the decay of 115:
Bob said he was told that the fuel was "Element 115," not yet discovered by any Earth science. Bob's superiors explained that the sources of the Element 115 were binary star systems. Bob said the fuel material was in a stable form that could be held in his hands. Element 115, he said, had the unusual ability to produce antimatter in a special container that powered the craft. Antimatter combined with matter would cause mutual annihilation of protons, neutrons and electrons and the release of enormous quantities of energy.


He's refering to an isotope of 115.




On bombardment to create the reaction that fly's the craft:
Robert Lazar, Narration Excerpt from The Lazar Tape ... And Excerpts from the Government Bible © 1991 by Tri-Dot Productions:

"The power source (of the craft) is a reactor that uses Element 115 as a fuel and uses a total annihilation reaction that provides the heat that it converts to energy, making it a compact, light-weight, efficient onboard power source.
I've got a couple of quick comments about Element 115 for those who are interested. By virtue of the way it's used in the reactor, it depletes very slowly and only 223 grams of Element 115 ­ which is just under half a pound ­ can be utilized for a period of 20 to 30 years.
This demonstrates the enormous amount of power released when you totally convert matter to energy, which is what happens when anti-matter and matter are combined. So, back to our power source.
Inside the reactor, Element 115 is bombarded with a proton which plugs into the nucleus of the 115 atom and becomes Element 116 which immediately decays and releases or radiates small amounts of anti-matter. The anti-matter is released into a vacuum into a tube that keeps it from reacting with the matter that's around it. It's then directed towards the gaseous matter target at the end of the tube. The matter and anti-matter collide and annihilate, fully converting to energy. The heat from this reaction is converted into electrical energy in a near 100% efficient thermoelectric generator. This is a device that converts heat directly into electrical energy."

This quote reproduced soley for comment/critique and falls under 'Fair use'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use




Now you want to explain how proton bombardment dosen't cause nuclear decay (become unstable)? Cause that's exactly what proton bombardment is used for. And that's exactly what he's saying (back in '91 mind you). IDK what you mean? Can you explain what you mean?

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