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Re: Nick Pope says new MoD Ufo files 'are fascinating'

Post by Thewatcher » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:42 pm

July 15, 2012 - UK’s National Archives published 6,785 pages on Thursday, July 12 from Ministry of Defence documents related to UFOs and extraterrestrials. This latest release is the ninth batch of UFO files to be released by the archives since 2008. Former Ministry of Defence (MoD) official UFO investigator Nick Pope told the Telegraph that this latest batch of released files is “absolutely fascinating” and it “contains a huge mixture of material that will be of great interest to anyone fascinated with UFOs.”

Twenty-five files make up these 6,785 pages, and the National Archives explains, “Topics include UFO policy, Parliamentary Questions, media issues, public correspondence, and UFO sighting reports.” The files include many interesting UFO sightings submitted to the MoD–some by pilots, police, and military officials. In case you don’t have the time or desire to read through 6,785 pages of documents, here are five highlights from the latest release:

MoD’s UFO Desk.

This latest release of files includes information about the Ministry of Defence’s “UFO desk.” Although many media outlets are reacting like this is the first mention of this post within the MoD, the UFO desk has been public knowledge for quite some time. Nick Pope, who is quoted in nearly every article related to UFOs in the UK, ran the MoD’s UFO desk from 1991 to 1994. However, the recently released information related to the UFO desk is mildly interesting. Documents detail the duties of the UFO desk officer, and the actual internal job posting for the position is in the files as well.

The need for a full UFO study.

A document contains a 1995 briefing by a UFO desk officer who cited the need for a “full study of UFO data as national security implications have never been properly assessed.” The officer states in the briefing, “The national security implications are considerable. We have many reports of strange objects in the skies and we have never investigated them.”

MoD officer suggests capturing a UFO to gain its technology.

In the briefing document mentioned above, this same UFO desk officer suggests capturing UFO technology for UK use. The officer states, “If reports are taken at face value then devices exist that do not use

conventional reaction propulsion systems, they have a very wide range of speeds and are stealthy. I suggest that we could use this technology, if it exists.”

Keeping tabs on ufologists.

The files contain a copy of a 1996 Parliamentary Question from Martin Redmond MP asking if MI6 and GCHQ monitors UFO investigations, or keeps tabs on ufologists. The National Archives summarizes the response contained in the files, explaining that a background briefing says “neither agency in fact undertakes such activity, though GCHQ cannot rule out the possibility” they had monitored “in other contexts individuals who have made a study of UFOs.”

Tony Blair’s UFO briefing.

Former British prime minister Tony Blair was briefed on UFO documents. As the Metro explains, the MoD documents show “the former Labour leader was apparently concerned about information on the unidentified objects being released to the public, as a result of the impending Freedom of Information Act, so decided to find out what facts existed.” This came after author and researcher Nick Redfern urged him to “consider making available for public scrutiny all of the many and varied UFO reports compiled by the government.”

The MoD UFO files will be available on the National Archives website soon, but for now, you can access them on the Telegraph‘s website.

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Re: Nick Pope says new MoD Ufo files 'are fascinating'

Post by Thewatcher » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:40 pm

E6722maj wrote:the new released files are interesting, to be sure. i just downloaded one to be read later. lots to read.
however, i don't trust pope. once a company man, always a company man. a sophisticated type of shill


Good point, but these files are of national archived information on sightings etc.
So we can expect to find some interesting info.

Enjoy this might be a long night for me :)

Re: Nick Pope says new MoD Ufo files 'are fascinating'

Post by E6722maj » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:31 pm

the new released files are interesting, to be sure. i just downloaded one to be read later. lots to read.
however, i don't trust pope. once a company man, always a company man. a sophisticated type of shill


Re: Nick Pope says new MoD Ufo files 'are fascinating'

Post by Thewatcher » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:09 pm

Files released in July 2012
The files contain a wide range of UFO-related documents, drawings, letters and parliamentary questions ranging from 1965 up to 2008.

Discover the role of the UFO Desk Officers, what they really thought of alien visitors, their ideas to harness alien technology as a weapon, and their briefings to Tony Blair on UFO policy.

Start by reading our highlights guide (PDF, 358kb) to help navigate your way through the files.
Six of the files (DEFE 31/189/1-194/1) contain some duplicates of UFO sighting reports copied by the Air Secretariat between 1996-1999. The original papers were released by The National Archives in February 2010.

Guy's get your teeth into these files, I have a nice cuppa ready for this lengthy investigation to see if I can get some really good info up on this.

Enjoy Folks .

Re: Nick Pope says new MoD Ufo files 'are fascinatng'

Post by Thewatcher » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:56 pm

Thursday, July 12, 2012

New UK Mod files released this July by the The National Archives
The National Archives in the Uk have released a further set of 25 new Ufo files from the UK MoD (Ministry of Defence)  this July. The new files just go to show you how seriously the Defence office considered the ufo phenomenon to be with Ufo desk officers appointed to monitor Ufo activity in space and officers considering both the purpose and intent of Ufo visitation.
Many assume the time delayed release nature of these files by the Uk government is seen as a strategy for eventual full disclosure to the public of the extraterrestrial origin of UFOs.
I highly recommend that you all to take time to read the new July files here for yourself.
A photograph released by the new National Archives show a military helicopter inspecting a triangle orb formation:

BRITAIN has released an archive detailing government briefings on unidentified flying objects (UFOs). The 25 files released by The National Archives include "a lengthy briefing on UFO policy to then Prime Minister Tony Blair's office'' along with a job description for the post of UFO desk officer, described as the "weirdest job in Whitehall''.  Britain's defence intelligence agency considered the possibility of alien craft visiting Earth and asked "UFO desk officers" to monitor any potential threat from outer space, hitherto top secret documents released on Thursday show. 
Thousands of pages of highly classified files document how officials in the Ministry of Defence were worried they would be accused by the public of not taking UFOs seriously enough, and how some thought there really could be someone out there.
"It was important to appreciate that what is scientific 'fact' today may not be true tomorrow," a defence intelligence officer warned in August 1993
"If the sightings are of devices not of the Earth, then their purpose needs to be established as a matter of priority. There had been no apparently hostile intent and other possibilities are one, military reconnaissance; two, scientific; three, tourism."
He pointed out: "It was only a few hundred years ago that 'scientists' believed that the Earth was the centre of the universe." He added: "It was generally agreed until early this century that the atom could not be split." Sightings of alleged UFOs could be explained by very strange-shaped clouds, ball lightning, or US "black" (secret project) aircraft, the unidentified official suggested. Read more source

Nick Pope says new MoD Ufo files 'are fascinating'

Post by Thewatcher » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:43 pm

Friday, July 13, 2012

Nick Pope says newly released MoD Ufo files 'are fascinating'

Former UK MoD officer Nick Pope who onced worked behind the Uk's official Ufo files desk talks about the newly released Ufo files by the National archives.
I love his enthusiastic nature and he is right to be so - the new files have startling revelations about the UK governments interest in Ufos. No only did  they wanted to know what the purpose of Ufo visitations were far as to brief government ministers who were asking questions about the phenomenon at the time like  former prime minister Tony Blair.
Once again the 25 new files released this July by the National Archives are available here to read for yourself, please take time to read through these files at

Nick Pope Talks:

Second Interview:

Tony Blair was so concerned about the disclosure of classified information on extra-terrestrials when he was Prime Minister he received a full briefing about UFOs from the Ministry of Defence, it has emerged.

The advice was requested by Number 10 in 1998 as the government introduced the Freedom of Information Act, allowing members of the public to seek details about "alien lifeforms". After receiving a letter from a member of the public referring to a “cover-up” and urging him to consider making “all of the many and varied UFO reports and associated data” available,
Mr Blair asked the Ministry of Defence for their policy. In a lengthy reply, staff told him the ministry “has only a limited interest in UFO matters” but that they “remain open minded” about the existence of “extraterrestrial lifeforms”.
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