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Re: The Dark Net

Post by Domeika » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:56 pm

The dark or deep web is not a seperate place per se, it is all the resources on the web that cannot be indexed by crawlers (bots). If a website actually wants to be found, it can include meta keywords (meta-tags), but even that doesn't ensure search ranking. Published content, accessed by bots following links, is parsed and using algos, the text is categorized. So to put it simply, if I have a website written in html, and even one link points to it from somewhere else, the content will eventually be parsed.
There are meta-tags that are meant to keep the page or site from being indexed such as 'robots-nofollow', but this is not always effective.

The true deep web is data-driven. There is no html content sitting on the server, except for maybe an entry form. It is these entry forms that are the targets of current efforts to index the sites that are otherwise not indexible.

To explain further, it is neccessary to explain the page lifecycle of a data-driven web site.

There are two basic parts.... the HTTPRequest and HTTPResponse.

The request is the call to the webserver, so if you type in the address of (or the raw IP address) , it will go directly to the server folder the the DNS (domain name server) that is registered to the domain. On the server itself, it would have a setting for which page in the folder is the default page, and that is why the 'home' page usually is not required in the address. So, the request is sent to the server, and the server then responds (HTTPResponse object) by sending the html back to the requestor and the html (or other content) is parsed and rendered by the user's browser. The key here is what exactly is contained in the form as it exists on the browser. Even if a login form, there may be other content on the page as well, and even though not technically inside the site, it is this bit of info that is available for parsing to determine what the website is about. However, if it is nothing but username password and a submit button, there isn't much to go on, and depending on your motives, you might want it that way. Also, it is possible to have nothing but a blank page on the browser, but when called, the page is built on the fly, i.e. built at 'run time'.

So with that said, a page is requested, and the server responds. What makes a website 'dark' is when no content exists on the web but is served out from a database when needed. In a page lifecycle, a user could request a page and behind the scenes, through code, the database is accessed and all manner of data returned. All images and video are stored in binary fields of database tables (BLOBS - Binary Large OBjectS) and text as text, datetime, numbers (numeric, int, long, etc). So the page and all of it's content can be rendered on the fly (at run time) and nothing exists for the bots to find. The site can also be coded at the developer's discretion so as not to cache any images or other content, unless that is what is desired. The success of many of the largest websites is dependant upon their caching strategy so as not to make their users wait for content from the database. For instance, Facebook uses memcache since it is a LAMP platform (Linux, Apache, Memcahce, PHP). DotNet (.Net) applications use APPCACHE.

Anyway, once the content is requested, if the page is interactive, like a form, the controls (drop-downs, textboxes, etc) are created at the PAGE_INIT event (.net) which fires first, and then manipulated on the PAGE_LOAD, and PAGE_PRE_RENDER events (there are a few more, but not worth going into). So if the requested page is interactive, the actual form and it's controls do not exist until built a run time.

Creating a data-driven website ensures that the website is 'dark'. It cannot be found unless the coder wants it to be, and even then, you might only find the login page but not get any further.

Hope that helps to shed some light on a dark subject. :cheers:

Re: The Dark Net

Post by Noentry » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:47 pm

The dark side of the internet

In the 'deep web', Freenet software allows users complete anonymity as they share viruses, criminal contacts and child pornography
Fourteen years ago, a pasty Irish teenager with a flair for inventions arrived at Edinburgh University to study artificial intelligence and computer science. For his thesis project, Ian Clarke created "a Distributed, Decentralised Information Storage and Retrieval System", or, as a less precise person might put it, a revolutionary new way for people to use the internet without detection. By downloading Clarke's software, which he intended to distribute for free, anyone could chat online, or read or set up a website, or share files, with almost complete anonymity.

"It seemed so obvious that that was what the net was supposed to be about – freedom to communicate," Clarke says now. "But [back then] in the late 90s that simply wasn't the case. The internet could be monitored more quickly, more comprehensively, more cheaply than more old-fashioned communications systems like the mail." His pioneering software was intended to change that.

His tutors were not bowled over. "I would say the response was a bit lukewarm. They gave me a B. They thought the project was a bit wacky … they said, 'You didn't cite enough prior work.'" ... et-freenet

This is my final post on this, the rest is up to you.


Re: The Dark Net

Post by Noentry » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:42 pm

The dark side of the Internet.

Freedom fighters in totalitarian countries like Syria are using the Darknet, a parallel Internet where people can surf uncensored by invitation only • But the hidden electronic dimension long ago became a crime scene that hosts pedophiles, hit men and traffickers in drugs, weapons and organs.
Enter the Dark Web, if you dare… | Photo credit: Ruth Goili

The rebels in Syria who sent photographs of the atrocities committed by the Assad regime to the West have exposed one of the less contemptible aspects of the Darknet, an underground version of the Internet in which users remain anonymous and IP addresses are not publicly shared. The Darknet zealously guards the privacy of users, whose locations and computer numbers are hidden and whose addresses are dynamic and change at a rapid pace to prevent them from being located.

This underground Internet is the true sanctuary for freedom fighters and rebels against oppressive totalitarian regimes. There, surfers from Syria can act without fear of Assad’s long arm. Many of the first activities of the “Arab Spring” took place on the Darknet as operational messages sent anonymously to activists.

But the Darknet does not serve only the political underground. It also serves the underworld. Most activity taking place there is illegal. Under cover of anonymity, crime organizations, arms traffickers and hit men offer their services to anyone, without a paper trail. The Darknet has more than 200,000 websites that are not accessible to the average surfer. These websites serve crime and terrorist organizations and constitute a platform for electronic trafficking in drugs, arms, women and organs, as well as for identity thieves, hit men and pedophiles. Anyone who wishes to use the Internet to market illegal wares while concealing his actions will eventually discover the Darknet.

“Most of us see the Internet as a powerful tool for individual and commercial use. But most of us are unaware of the fact that there is a parallel Internet that uses exactly the same technologies. It stays hidden and allows anonymous surfing,” says Dr. Yossi Raanan, the head of 013-Netvision’s Center for the Study of Internet and Society, which is on the College of Management’s academic track. “It’s estimated that the amount of information on the Darknet is 400 times greater than the amount of information on the ‘public’ Internet. In light of that statistic, the Darknet is definitely a multi-faceted economic and moral threat, and we have a duty to take it down.”

As well as commercial and promotional websites, the Darknet contains thousands of closed forums that can be joined by invitation only. Every few minutes, usernames pass randomly from server to server to obliterate their traces and blur their locations. The servers are located in many countries to make it difficult for the police and security services of the various countries to locate the users.

Raanan says that while it’s impossible to provide exact numbers, there is plenty of dark activity going on over the Internet in Israel, and there are plenty of illegal websites in Hebrew.

“It’s hard to get to them because the whole idea is that they hide themselves very well,” he says. “There are shocking pedophilia sites. There are sophisticated commercial sites that allow buyers to order light drugs, heavy drugs and prescription medications, and whatever is ordered will get to the customer in the conventional manner.”

From 12 websites to 5,800

The members of the Darknet like to be far from the spotlight. They are not looking for “likes” or friends. They don’t register their sites with Google. Instead, they work by word of mouth to find customers or chat partners and exchange illegal, pornographic and even pedophilic data. In one Israeli forum, the following question was asked openly: Who has little girls? The answer came back quickly: “I have an 11-year-old daughter. She’s trained.”

“It’s shocking,” says Raanan. “Even if shocking is a mild way to describe what goes on there.” Raanan says that government agencies from every country are also getting into the Darknet. Legitimate surfers also take cover there to avoid being discovered by censorship agencies in their countries. The Syrians used the Darknet to send photographs of the atrocities committed by Assad’s forces, including photographs of the massacre of the children in Homs. The anonymity of the Darknet, where addresses are dynamic and hard to pinpoint, allowed them to pass along the information without being discovered by Assad’s agents.

Such sites can be accessed only by invitation. It is only after one arrives that one can begin one’s journey to the center of the earth, as it were. One has to download the Firefox browser and the TOR plugin, which operates like a shadow, adding layers of concealment to the underground surfing.

After adding several layers, one reaches the penultimate stage, the stage just before reaching the Darknet. This is where one must make a connection with a live user to be brought in. Even people who arrive at these sites without an invitation can peek inside, seeing a tiny bit of the enormous world that lies just beneath the surface. The addresses can be located on legitimate sites, and sometimes they also come up in open forums as cyber criminals try to recruit more customers for their forbidden wares.

“The cyber criminals use every technological innovation that’s out there,” says Raanan. “Many things that were developed for good purposes serve the criminals as well. When a Pandora’s Box is opened, we all pay dearly later on. We need to act against the phenomenon, because the more immune to discovery and enforcement crime becomes, the worse it is for us.”

Gabriel Weimann, a professor of communications at the University of Haifa who wrote “Terror on the Internet: The New Arena, the New Challenges,” found 12 websites operated by terrorist groups. Today, he keeps close watch on more than 5,800 such websites. Terrorists also use the Darknet to talk among themselves, thus creating a large area of activity for counter-terror agencies.

There is a different Wikipedia, too

A very large portion of the Darknet is made up of commercial websites where one can buy almost any illegal item: personal weapons, platoon-level weapons, drugs and illegal services. To enter the Darknet, one needs a plugin named TOR, an acronym for “the onion router.” The software was created with funding from the U.S. Navy, but once the extent of the criminal activity there became known, the FBI tried to shut it down, so far with no success. The program opens the first in a series of gates that lead to the Internet within the Internet, and that allow surfers to hide behind a secret IP address within a multi-branched Internet of dozens of servers on five continents where websites with unknown suffixes such as .onion and .bit are stored.

These websites are not managed by the DNS system of all open WWW addresses registered with ICANN. Rather, they are registered separately, through a secret authority known as Namecoin, which is run exactly like the open Internet. But Namecoin boasts of true freedom and the absence of any censorship. The Darknet’s complete disconnection from the public Internet allows it to exist with no government supervision by any established country, and allows users to change identities like socks. They ask the Darknet for a new identity and, by pressing a button, any connection that they had to their previous identity is wiped out. They can now operate under another name, with a new IP address, with no trace of their previous activity.

The ability to change identities frequently makes it appear as though the number of the Darknet’s users is larger than it really is. The Darknet is certainly growing at a rapid pace, just as the temptation to commit crimes anonyomously is also a big one. It is hard to catch the criminals. It is harder there than on the public Internet, where a court order can expose any criminal by the IP address that he used at a particular point in time.

The Darknet’s activity is evident to anyone who manages to get in. The people who are active there do not hide their wares, and there is also a Wiki-type encyclopedia, known as Hidden Wiki, that contains all the information one needs to get to know the Darknet and how things are run there. Advocates of its establishment say that it arose as a protest against government censorship and restrictive laws that violate the freedom that the Internet should symbolize. They dismiss the illegal activity, such as the trafficking in drugs, human beings or arms, as incidental to the political activity, which they consider important.

Since there are no laws on the Darknet, one can advertise anything there. Nobody can identify or arrest anyone who writes on a website. With the high connectivity speed common in homes today, many Internet users have set up servers to store pornographic information, photographs and particularly shocking video clips, as well as want ads where, on occasion, one can see the phrase: “Wanted: murderer for hire.”

Running parallel to TOR is another system known as I2P2, which is even more flexible and open. It has a direct link to the Internet that is accessible to everyone. Here one can find many IRC chats, and sharing of various kinds of files, including of videos and music. One can also gain access to websites with the I2p. It is black market heaven, with highly developed electronic commerce, including clearing-houses connected to the clearing-houses of international credit companies. But all this takes place with no evidence or documentation.

The police are working quietly

Detective agencies are finding it difficult to deal with the enormous mass of illegal activity on the Darknet. For this reason, researchers of the Artificial Intelligence Laboratory at the University of Arizona are developing automatic tools that can gather and analyze terrorist content in a systematic way.

The project, entitled Dark Web, uses “spiders” to find and catalogue millions of web pages, advertisements on terrorist forums, video clips and other multimedia content on an ongoing, day-to-day basis. The project’s managers have identified dozens of jihadi websites with an enormous amount of information, including step-by-step training films that show how to build improvised explosive devices. The findings have been handed over to American intelligence agencies.

Dr. Nimrod Kozlowski, the co-founder and chairman of Altal Security, says, “The power of the Darknet is inherent in the fact that many of its users put their trust in the anonymity that it gives them. But that is also its weakness. Law-enforcement agencies can take advantage of that trust. They distribute fake Internet codes, and then follow the activity on the Darknet, distribute feedback files, and can also operate undercover Internet users from their own agencies. An undercover police officer who is invited to a forum on the Darknet can exchange files with other users and thus gather intelligence, analyze information, and, most important, keep the person under surveillance.”

The Israel Police, with its meager forces, is also trying to cope with the Darknet by means of activities that it is not willing to divulge. The police are doing a great deal more than they are willing to share with the public. They prefer to act quickly so as not to expose their abilities or the level of knowledge that they have gathered in the tiny unit that deals with cyber crime. Since the police act legally, a crime must be committed first, and only then its forces may act.

According to Cmdr. Itzik Kesiel, the director of the Israel Police’s investigative team that deals with cyber crime, “A crime has to reach the real world. Otherwise, it’s not considered a crime, but just talk. In the field of drug trafficking, if there’s no buying and selling of a drug, no crime has been committed. The police can intervene only when something real happens to somebody.”

Re: The Dark Net

Post by Noentry » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:27 pm

I have been aware of the darknet for some time.

And Troll is absolutely right it should be used with caution.

I will give you a search site that gives access to the darknet which I have been using for a few years now and the site has never given me any viruses or has caused me any computer issues.

But be warn enter the darknet at your own peril.

This is just the surface and as far as most will need to go.

Re: The Dark Net

Post by Canubis » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:50 pm

Upload to


Re: The Dark Net

Post by Canubis » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:27 pm

im deal with this as i do

this is the net and the net is mine

Upload to

if this makes no seance then no ferther should u tread

Re: The Dark Net

Post by G3n3sis » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:32 pm

This is an excellent post and somewhat akin to a hollywood movie. The whole idea of dark net reminds me of a film i remember many years ago where symbols appeared on the pages of surface websites; when accessed it took you to a secret network. It would be tempting to write a book on such a subject. For many years I have wondered whether the black world of the military industrial complex has ties to something like dark net. Where advanced materials, unregulated science experiments, human organ trafficking and cloning take place. Has the dark net been explored for ties to ufo technology, secret space programs, mind control and secret societies? It would certainly be a good gateway - im hesitant to explore it myself. Its the matrix all over again - blue pill or red pill?

Re: The Dark Net

Post by Canubis » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:19 pm

the word hack pisses me off...and then some, because if you hear that word its FULL OF SHIT,

SOME CANUBIS KNOWLEDGE, TO HACK is to look over the shoulder, gain user/pw FULLSTOP..........

some fkn cunt told me today the cia wanted to buy his hacking scripts for 900kUSD and he turned them down to try and patent them.......BULLSHIT

and if tru the cia dosent even understand shit..

Re: The Dark Net

Post by X-mog » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:03 pm

I seen similar ads here in canada. Too bad we settle for less. When the resolution for media jumps up to "UHD", then we'll see the demand for bandwith increase exponentially. Give it 5-10 more years. :flop:

If yoo hack a ps3, you can turn it into an ftp server to store ur stuff on. That's how I do it. Then, when yoo run out of hdd space on your pc, just send it over the lan to your ps3 (mine's got a TB). I can get 20mb/s better than my internet, don't know about urs. Yoo can haz de same ting on a wii but sd cards aren't too big and they can't deal with sdxc either. Don't know about sounds soooo chachy, :geek: even chachier than microsoft. :ugeek: Japanese people make better hardware imo.

Re: The Dark Net

Post by One-23 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:27 am

Google has just rolled out a 1Gbps fibre package in Kansas, but the current public infrastructure can't cope with that speed so it's no more than a "look what we can do" scenario for the big Guns at Google.