NYPD to identify deranged gunmen by spying on internet chat

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Re: NYPD to identify deranged gunmen by spying on internet c

Post by Noentry » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:45 pm

Elodrado good post :think:

Toxic great reply, you have hit the proverbial nail square on, well stated.

Re: NYPD to identify deranged gunmen by spying on internet c

Post by Toxic32 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:49 am

So what would this algorithm contain. I suppose key words or phrases like, I want to kill every body, I hate the world, I want to kill my self, I want to get even, I hate kids, I'm going to show every body, all people are evil, I want to purify the world, God is talking to me, I need to save the innocent, every body hates me, I hate my self, I hate school, my dad has turned off the television, my mum has hidden my x-box. To name but a few. (I hope that this doesn't get me on anyone's list for using these words)

Ok so where does this lead us. Lets assume that this goes ahead. How long before the list is changed to include words like. active member of free thinking wed sites, member of DTV, anti establishment tendencies, wants change, argumentative, thinks outside the box, is not compliant, has no respect for the police, thinks the police are corrupt, want political change, thinks or society is unfair, thinks rich people should shoulder more of the burden, wants the tax system changed. And so on. You get my drift. Praise the lord and pass the ammunition. I'm waiting for the knock on my door. :think:

Re: NYPD to identify deranged gunmen by spying on internet c

Post by Eldorado » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:15 am


The Minority Report Scenario of tech development

This opens a whole new subject of discussion, potentially exposing the Entertainment Industry's sickening fascination with acting like superhero's and fighting crime........

The reality is that there have been more than a few "Inventions" that were directly spawned from the creativity of these movie moguls....

At a time when the watchful eyes of the "Star Wars" affiliations were fixated on these innovations, just like the Terminator, or the War Games Computer....WOPR........they love to imitate the destruction they see on TV......

They wish they were as jacked as the Schwartz was.......they wish they could deliver a RAW DEAL like Eldorado can.......

Re: NYPD to identify deranged gunmen by spying on internet c

Post by Noentry » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:52 am

420milehigh wrote:the thought police begin... :peep: :nwo: :shooting:

Yeah bad days ahead. :top:

Re: NYPD to identify deranged gunmen by spying on internet c

Post by 420milehigh » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:44 am

the thought police begin... :peep: :nwo: :shooting:

NYPD to identify deranged gunmen by spying on internet chat

Post by Noentry » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:36 am

NYPD seeks to identify potential ‘deranged’ gunmen by monitoring internet chatter


The New York Police Department (NYPD) is reportedly considering widespread internet surveillance in an attempt to identify and eliminate potential “deranged” gunmen before they commit their crimes, efforts which, one must assume, would be in addition to their so-called social media unit.

This idea came in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, which is quite interesting since similar ideas were put forth after the mass shooting in Norway.

Just as politicians shamelessly continue to exploit the Connecticut shooting to push their gun control agendas, it seems that those who would like to eliminate any and all privacy will seek to use the incident for their own ends as well.

The NYPD’s top intelligence officials met on Dec. 20 to discuss techniques including “cyber-searches of language that mass-casualty shooters have used in e-mails and Internet postings,” according to NYPD Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, as quoted in the New York Times.

Some might think this is a great idea but keep in mind, this is the same NYPD that nonsensically has a branch in Kfar Saba, Israel. Furthermore, in the not-so-distant past, an NYPD officer was thrown in a psychiatric ward by his superiors shortly after revealing systemic corruption in the NYPD and a couple was even arrested by the NYPD and detained for 23 hours simply for dancing.

Can we really trust a police department that has been busted for conducting illegal surveillance with finding and properly dealing with alleged potential “deranged” gunmen? How about one that has been busted embellishing their counterterrorism record? How about one that labels people “professional” agitators for legally filming police?

How about one that billed a mother for the cost of repairing the dent in an NYPD police cruiser caused by her son when he was killed by said cruiser? How about one that allegedly manufactured drug charges to meet quotas?

Suffice it to say, the NYPD should not be trusted with anything although they do seem to absolutely love surveillance.

“The goal would be to identify the shooter in cyberspace, engage him there and intervene, possibly using an undercover to get close, and take him into custody or otherwise disrupt his plans,” said Kelly in a statement.

In addition, the department is planning to send officers to Newtown and other mass shooting scenes to collect information, according to Paul Browne, NYPD chief spokesman.

One of the potential NYPD tactics mentioned by Browne includes creating an algorithm capable of searching the internet for “terms used by active shooters in the past that may be an indicator of future intentions.”

Kelly claimed that their method would be somewhat like that used to search for terrorism-related communications online.

According to Kelly, the technique would target “apolitical or deranged killers before they become active shooters,” although specific information was nearly nonexistent.

The meeting included senior NYPD officials and David Cohen, the head of the NYPD’s intelligence division.

“Active shooters can cause multiple deaths in seconds, regardless of police training or how deft the police response,” said Kelly.

“For that reason, the NYPD is examining ways, through intelligence, to try to identify potential active shooters before they strike,” Kelly added.

The real question is: just how effective will this plan be? What will be sacrificed in terms of privacy? What will it cost?

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