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Re: The Puma Punku Scam Lives On :(

Post by Canubis » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:08 am

Canubis wrote:alright its going off, 1st note is this culture did mold shit, rock and mettle

2nd note The Alien Key Theory was built to contradict the ancient alien theory so to saying aliens came from space and helped is foolish when they were long apart of the earth and giving old men a nudge in the right direction all the way..


if we should / want to take it any farther then let it rip noobs give it all you got!

noobs r so cute... prove me wrong?

Re: The Puma Punku Scam Lives On :(

Post by Canubis » Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:26 am

alright its going off, 1st note is this culture did mold shit, rock and mettle

2nd note The Alien Key Theory was built to contradict the ancient alien theory so to saying aliens came from space and helped is foolish when they were long apart of the earth and giving old men a nudge in the right direction all the way..

Re: The Puma Punku Scam Lives On :(

Post by E6722maj » Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:51 am

this is not weathering. it's a darkened and colour-increased version of the same pic. note the grass;

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Re: The Puma Punku Scam Lives On :(

Post by Just a thought » Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:21 am

Oh one more thing. Brien Foerster who had a page on his site for the testing project that had a link to indiegogo site, well guess what you get now when you click on, Support Our Ongoing Research Projects, a big 404 and no mention of the testing.
Ref: http://hiddenincatours.com/support/

Re: The Puma Punku Scam Lives On :(

Post by Just a thought » Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:22 am

Does anyone remember, Cosmogenic Dating of Megaliths at Puma Punku?

support-the-dating-of-puma-punku-must-watch-t89481.html

I felt that this might be a scam. But others were beating the bushes to help get donations for this. After all they already had everything in place right down to the cost from Purdue.

Ref: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosm ... puma-punku

What We Need & What You Get

We are requesting a total of $4500 for this project. The investigators will not receive any of the monies personally. Each sample that we send in will cost us $1310 in charges from Purdue. This is a research project, but is not funded by the National Science Foundation, therefore our expenses will be under the research column (https://www.physics.purdue.edu/ams/rosetest/pri...). The breakdown for these charges are listed below:
10Be only Research
Crushing and grinding 130
Quartz separation and purification 375
Chemical preparation (BeO) 345
AMS measurement for Geo sample 460
Total: 1310

Well guess what folks,

Ref: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosm ... c=activity

David Swenson posted an announcement 16 days ago

It is with some sadness and some anger that the PRIME lab at Purdue informed me that they do not do samples like ours. I felt like I was talking to Jay Carney (Presidential spokesman) in that none of the answers I got rang true. After 6 months of discussion and leading me on, they pulled the plug. You know, scientists need to grow a pair! Fear of hurting their reputation for shaking up the established paradigm is no way to live.
All is not lost, as there are options, and we are exploring them! We will just be delayed.

Took me a half hour of research, back in December, to figure out that something smelled fishy. So for those of you who donated, how’s that working out for you?

Re: The Puma Punku Scam Lives On :(

Post by The57ironman » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:53 am

donner wrote:
Mep630 wrote:Still does not explain how a tribe of people who are claimed to not have known writing, could build such intricate walls.

The pieces fit together like legos and make a wall much stronger then normal with the 'fancy' cuttings in the blocks.

Mind you that Diorite, which the blocks are made of is a pretty hard material, the only material that can cut it is DIAMONDS!

So these people who could not write, made these intricate blocks, which fit together perfectly, with perfect symmetry, with diamond tipped hand tools... (yea thats believable)

Not to mention, the cuts are perfect straight lines that we could only reproduce with lasers and other very high tech equipment today.

Then there is the weight of these block, which somehow all these ancient people were able to move 10+ ton blocks like it was nothing to them....

oh you debunked it alright there, hows the special Olympics tryouts going??


Two big problems with this argument.

Number one, the stones at Pumapunku are NOT diorite, they are andesite and red sandstone. Just because Von Daniken or AE say it does not make it true. Do a little research on the site and you will see this for yourself

Number two, diamond tipped tools are NOT the only thing that can cut diorite. Plenty of ancient civilizations worked with diorite: Egypt, Babylonia, Inca, Maya, etc. Look up 'hammurabi fingertip stele' for a good example. There are many examples from all over the world, hundreds of years apart. Did all of these civilizations have lasers and diamond tipped drills? I think not.

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..welcome donner.. :hiho:

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Re: The Puma Punku Scam Lives On :(

Post by donner » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:10 am

Mep630 wrote:Still does not explain how a tribe of people who are claimed to not have known writing, could build such intricate walls.

The pieces fit together like legos and make a wall much stronger then normal with the 'fancy' cuttings in the blocks.

Mind you that Diorite, which the blocks are made of is a pretty hard material, the only material that can cut it is DIAMONDS!

So these people who could not write, made these intricate blocks, which fit together perfectly, with perfect symmetry, with diamond tipped hand tools... (yea thats believable)

Not to mention, the cuts are perfect straight lines that we could only reproduce with lasers and other very high tech equipment today.

Then there is the weight of these block, which somehow all these ancient people were able to move 10+ ton blocks like it was nothing to them....

oh you debunked it alright there, hows the special Olympics tryouts going??


Two big problems with this argument.

Number one, the stones at Pumapunku are NOT diorite, they are andesite and red sandstone. Just because Von Daniken or AE say it does not make it true. Do a little research on the site and you will see this for yourself

Number two, diamond tipped tools are NOT the only thing that can cut diorite. Plenty of ancient civilizations worked with diorite: Egypt, Babylonia, Inca, Maya, etc. Look up 'hammurabi fingertip stele' for a good example. There are many examples from all over the world, hundreds of years apart. Did all of these civilizations have lasers and diamond tipped drills? I think not.

Re: The Puma Punku Scam Lives On :(

Post by Mep630 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:37 pm

Still does not explain how a tribe of people who are claimed to not have known writing, could build such intricate walls.

The pieces fit together like legos and make a wall much stronger then normal with the 'fancy' cuttings in the blocks.

Mind you that Diorite, which the blocks are made of is a pretty hard material, the only material that can cut it is DIAMONDS!

So these people who could not write, made these intricate blocks, which fit together perfectly, with perfect symmetry, with diamond tipped hand tools... (yea thats believable)

Not to mention, the cuts are perfect straight lines that we could only reproduce with lasers and other very high tech equipment today.

Then there is the weight of these block, which somehow all these ancient people were able to move 10+ ton blocks like it was nothing to them....

oh you debunked it alright there, hows the special Olympics tryouts going??

Re: The Puma Punku Scam Lives On :(

Post by Thebluecanary » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:35 pm

I have rocks in the garden with ferrous materials in them. The "rust" effect comes and goes depending on lots of variables. They don't always look the same, and the appearance and disappearance of the rusty spots reveals little about their age. Plus, you're still talking about two pictures of an identical rock from slightly different angles with slightly different lighting, so unless you've stood in front of the actual rock you've really "discovered" nothing.

And yeah, the Romans could make concrete. But there weren't any Romans at Pumapunku that I know of. Dating the site is much more complicated than sitting and speculating on the internet. Get you a Kickstarter going, head on down to the site and do a real archaeological assessment, then get back to us.

Re: The Puma Punku Scam Lives On :(

Post by TorJohnson » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:52 pm

Amazing that this age-old enigma has been debunked by a random DTV forum member when it has baffled experts for years.

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