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Re: Anti-Christian, Anti-Satantic, Anti-Atheist

Post by mediasorcery » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:44 am

What a lot of fukin rubbish^ myths are based on truth not imagination,

Re: Anti-Christian, Anti-Satantic, Anti-Atheist

Post by Truthdefender » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:48 pm

What happened to this lowsix?

Lowsix wrote:I really like the thought process behind this post.

I hope that others get your intent, Im pretty sure I do.
(ah i see youre already catching worries, im with you)

But your setup is basically going to lure Christianity bashing.
(which in itself isnt so bad, but usually, the reasons against religions are straw dog arguments which deal more with the Humans running churches than what is actually written or put forward in the actual religion Christs message, vs the message of Right Wing Neocon, gun toting bible thumpers...)

Ill respond when i have a bit of time..but i must say that i simply disagree with your paragraph on Religion (Christianity).
My response wont be as much a defense of christianity or promoting it, but rather clarifying WHAT about it can be detrimental. Threads like this, which intellectually can dismantle any of these concepts...generally end up lacking discussions on SOLUTION, since they gget so wrapped up in talking about WHY they dont like one of your three belief systems, that no new ones, or more correct ones are formulated.

Easy to tear down a structure, not so easy to build one, and if you remove those three columns of belief, you end up with what APPEARS to be an endorsement of the last possible option. Moral Relativism (meaning all acts are equal) and Secular Humanism.

That humans unguided by religious or philosophical beliefs MUST represent the BEST and the highest moral order in this universe, due to the lack of believing in a faulty system. I cant buy that.

Meaning, Humans will act morally, in the interest of other humans and will accept sacrifice in order to do so, without reward. They will share their resources out of the goodness of their hearts, and will not act selfishly, nor with violence in disputes, nor will their nations war with each other (since religion is gone)...They will inherently act morally despite no punishment systems in place (hell). And that humanity would advance (and embrace self sacrifice without reward) in the absence of the Three listed belief systems.

So while this MAY appear as a Pro Christian thing, its not. I completely understand why modern religion makes itself such an easy target..But i really 100% disagree with the premise (or how you stated it) as the Faults in Religions. Or a very limited understanding of their real purpose. (no, control was not the initial intent, although it has become that way).

Its hardly arrogant to come to a belief system that offers some relief from the fear of death. Its that simple.

I had a Hospice nurse once tell me, that she flatly REFUSED to attend to dying Atheists. She said they die the most horrible deaths across the board than anyone else, and that quiet, loving little ole christian ladies died the best, with smiles on their faces..

There is something to that.

That cant be ignored (to me), or brushed off because of what a few jackass priests, and control mongers have made out of them. (all of them) And that is the MAIN premise for arguments against religion. That makes it a faulty case, logically. And i mean ALL religions..not just mine.

You wanted to limit this to the Five senses...
But the human mind includes a programmed search for patterns, and is a hard wired instinct, so logic alone cannot remove that... and it is precisely why our limited sense pallet will never be able to accurately describe the nature of the universe (and why we cant rely on it alone), or answer the question why....but it has NO CHOICE but to formulate a story that seems to give our existence some meaning in context some relevance, in the face of that unanswerable question and POSSIBLE conclusion that all this means NOTHING.

And trust me, you wouldnt want to live on a planet where NO one thought there was a purpose, creator, sytem, morality, afterlife or hope. It would be a VERY VERY BLOODY planet..far bloodier than this one. Nothing would hold that destructive human instinct back, matter of fact, it would become encouraged, as a means of survival...

So its sort of a miracle that we subconsciously devised a moral code and hardwired THAT into our behavior to override the animal human nature by formulating a creation myth along with an attendant history that would validate acting morally, as a means to get us out of the deserts and jungles, and into social structures that didnt cannibalize.

That's the real miracle.

(and the real meaning of the Archetype of the Savior)

For real.

Re: Anti-Christian, Anti-Satantic, Anti-Atheist

Post by NamelessGhoul » Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:01 am

roadkill wrote:Nice Post. I like that Bahb3 dude, he is a fucking genius! Why doesn't he post anymore??


Muhahaha Bahb3 is chicken shit

dontcha agree


Re: Anti-Christian, Anti-Satantic, Anti-Atheist

Post by NamelessGhoul » Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:59 am

eliakim wrote:
hanuman wrote::hmmm: NO MAN SHALL KNOW THE ANSWER UNTIL THE END :nope:

It is the end...


Re: Anti-Christian, Anti-Satantic, Anti-Atheist

Post by Roadkill » Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:31 am

Nice Post. I like that Bahb3 dude, he is a fucking genius! Why doesn't he post anymore??

Re: Anti-Christian, Anti-Satantic, Anti-Atheist

Post by Eliakim » Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:00 am

hanuman wrote::hmmm: NO MAN SHALL KNOW THE ANSWER UNTIL THE END :nope:

It is the end...

Re: Anti-Christian, Anti-Satantic, Anti-Atheist

Post by Eliakim » Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:54 am

babyshaker wrote:I want to go out on a limb here and see how many people feel the way that I do. First, NO christian biased posts, NO satanic biased posts, and NO atheist biased posts. Nobody cares about one-sided opinions or ideas that are imaginary. I want to stick with "reality". Reality is perceived through our FIVE given senses from the time we are conceived. Yes, we can argue a sixth sense, but let's not get into that area here. I just want to probe REAL uncontroversial facts.

A: Religion (christianity, being popular) offers a very complex explanation to how things have come to be in our reality. Most accept this explanation, while others choose to be skeptical and search for alternative explanations. For the ones who accept religion as "salvation", it seems that they have arrogantly chosen a specific path for themselves, assuming that the specific path chosen will lead them into some kind of "bliss". Some people who have chosen to believe in complex explanations of reality might not have blissful endings, but they still have encapsulated themselves in an arrogant thought structure. My point being, most popular religions require you to think in a certain way, while consciously ignoring any other way of thinking.

B:Satanism or counter-positive religion offers nothing to society except destruction. Yes, it can be fun to be a teenage rebel and mock religion, but contributing to negativity and violence towards society does NOT solve anything. Enough said.

C: Atheism starts out as a free-thinking agenda against what the masses are trying to push on you. I have been through the trials and errors of pushing back against what the majority of people are telling me what I am supposed to believe. Atheism might seem like the "nest" of thought that so many people think that they can rest at, but atheism is just another assumption to something that nobody can explain. Ask yourself, "Do I possess the sensual ability to detect what created me and my world?", or, "Do my minuscule sensory organs have the ability to ascertain exactly why and how this reality came to be?". There is no absolute certain explanation of how everything came to be up to this point in time........

:shooting: :cheers:

How can you be anti that which you do not understand?

1. While you stay in the 'want's you won't get anywhere on the spiritual path home to God.

2. Christ will lead you to bliss if you allow him to do.

3. Christ came to elevate spirituality and the salvation of people healing themselves. He was helping the people to take their power back and become one with nature again. That which had been buried by the orthodox he came to resurrect.

4. You wrote 'no biased posts' then continued to write one.

5. When you know yourself then you will know the cosmos.

Seek within. Now I know why you are 'babyshaker' were you shook at birth?

Re: Anti-Christian, Anti-Satantic, Anti-Atheist

Post by Hbeale73 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:55 pm

bahb3 wrote:
and now you both look like goofuses...

At least I brought boobies.

The initial thread was flawed. I tried to help steer it toward a better conclusion but the author took offense.

Looking at your initial post it seems more that you were steering it to exactly this point. I mean, it's quite obvious that someone will feel offended if you call a bunch of people ignorant. That doen's mean that they are right in being offended but again, it's obvious that in the end there will always at least be someone who will feel offended. Now, you seem like quite a smart Columbian and I'm sure that if you really wanted, you could have said exactly the same thing while being fairly sure that you wouldn't be offending anybody.
But hey, it's Friday so cheers! :cheers:

Re: Anti-Christian, Anti-Satantic, Anti-Atheist

Post by Forestgrove111 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:20 am

:sunny: jesus is a metaphor for the (sun of god) :sunny: wake up :sunny:

Re: Anti-Christian, Anti-Satantic, Anti-Atheist

Post by Dank1 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:41 am

At least I brought boobies.

yes you did and being a boob man THANX THAT MADE MY DAY :flop: