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Re: Can We Talk About Religion or God?

Post by Constabul » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:53 am

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Re: Can We Talk About Religion or God?

Post by Allreadydead » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:50 pm

redwoodrick wrote:Hi,not being snarky...just unsure as to what is allowed on DTV these days.Am I right to assume we can NOT talk about God or religion in our threads without getting deleted?And if so isn't it a little odd to have a Spirituality forum??


Anyone can talk about their 'Beliefs' on DTV, many talk about their 'beliefs' in Aliens, UFO's, Reptiles, Conspiracy Theorys and whether or not Santa exists and is he really Satan?

For centuries (and it's still happening with some 'beliefs' today) free thinking persons were persecuted, even tortured and put to death for not accepting some 'belief' or another, because it was the generally accepted practise of those times. Thankfully, in some parts of the world it's now different and some 'belief systems' have had to accept that their control over people's thoughts and idea's have ended.

Here at DTV, most are happy to be a member of a discussion forum that - for the most part! - allows open debate on many diverse subjects, some of which can draw heat for their passionate content without censorship or ban. Let's keep it that way.

When I use the forums here I keep a simple rule in my head - pretend I'm in someone's else's house having a discussion with other strangers, even if I disagree totally with what they say, as long as they treat each other with a little respect, they should be able to say it.

In a nutshell, treat other people with the same respect that you would want to be treated with.

That's me. back to my whisky and prowl the other forums. :mrgreen:

To all:
:hugging:

:cheers:

Re: Can We Talk About Religion or God?

Post by Redwoodrick » Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:11 pm

Let me restate that then, This is what I believe is the truth!
......there.When people preface what they are going to say with "what I think", and "in my opinion" it takes all the sting right out of it huh?Very few people are offended by another persons opinion.It is only when we dogmatically state that what we are saying is "The Truth" that we start ruffling the feathers of sensible people everywhere.In my opinion,truth can be told,but "The Truth" must remain to be found wherever it dwells within the unprovable depths of our hearts and minds.I can not "prove" God to you.And if I try to do so,you should feel wary and suspicious.I can share my experience of God if it will help you,but I should in no way assume that it is my duty or right to do so.
I will tell you something though.In my opinion the reason so many people get offended at the mentioning of God is that for thousands of years people have been told lies in God's name.People have been killed,tortured,silenced,fooled,sold down the river and basically bullshitted in the name of God.
I have found in my personal walk with God Who lives in my heart and mind,that the best,maybe the only way to share that peace with others is to live it by example.To be kind.Non judgmental.Honest.Forgiving.Charitable....These things are what I do to share my faith.In my belief I dont have to save anyone from hell because there is no hell.This world is close enough.I have found it much more useful to talk about the Spirit of Love,for I believe that is what God is.

P.S. ....Until I start walking on water...then all bets are off!! :dancer: :sunny:

Re: Can We Talk About Religion or God?

Post by Fleshstorm87 » Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:58 am

From what I've seen...It seems people tend to unload their drama ....your obsession to pleading your case ...and then...BECOMING offended because some don't agree with their view's of "What the fuck ever" remember the keyword here is DISCLOSE ....get the fuck over yourself....fuck your ego......like said..this is the internet, and there are better things to do in life then.................Consuming yourself with drama on a website and waiting for it to all end..while typing? :bang;
Though addicted to this site lmao! :cheers:

Re: Can We Talk About Religion or God?

Post by Hurtswhenipee » Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:38 am

Let me restate that then, This is what I believe is the truth!

hurtswhenipee wrote:Here is the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNf-P_5u_Hw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc-mrJf45Hg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjAegPhQOUg

Man created religon to control man. The church supressed our past in order to maintain complete control over it's sheep. We had a tremendous past and knowlege of things we have not yet recovered.
Pretend you could create spiders, fish, eagles, deer, man etc. Would you tell the souls you created "Worship me OR BURN GNASHING YOUR TEETH FOREVER IN HELL" I don't think any of us would do that! So why would God?
If you must believe in something how about Universal Conscienceness. Their are other planes of being or even sences. There are ghosts, ESP and other stuff. But the worlds religons frankly are a joke!

Re: Can We Talk About Religion or God?

Post by Otomon » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:53 am

hurtswhenipee wrote:Here is the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNf-P_5u_Hw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc-mrJf45Hg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjAegPhQOUg

Man created religon to control man. The church supressed our past in order to maintain complete control over it's sheep. We had a tremendous past and knowlege of things we have not yet recovered.
Pretend you could create spiders, fish, eagles, deer, man etc. Would you tell the souls you created "Worship me OR BURN GNASHING YOUR TEETH FOREVER IN HELL" I don't think any of us would do that! So why would God?
If you must believe in something how about Universal Conscienceness. Their are other planes of being or even sences. There are ghosts, ESP and other stuff. But the worlds religons frankly are a joke!



Any post,thread,video that starts with the words "Here is the truth" is an instant fail in my books.

Re: Can We Talk About Religion or God?

Post by Hurtswhenipee » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:10 am

Here is the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNf-P_5u_Hw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc-mrJf45Hg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjAegPhQOUg

Man created religon to control man. The church supressed our past in order to maintain complete control over it's sheep. We had a tremendous past and knowlege of things we have not yet recovered.
Pretend you could create spiders, fish, eagles, deer, man etc. Would you tell the souls you created "Worship me OR BURN GNASHING YOUR TEETH FOREVER IN HELL" I don't think any of us would do that! So why would God?
If you must believe in something how about Universal Conscienceness. Their are other planes of being or even sences. There are ghosts, ESP and other stuff. But the worlds religons frankly are a joke!

Re: Can We Talk About Religion or God?

Post by Ghost32 » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:06 am

dlslith wrote:Ghost,
I have never deleted, not to my knowlege, a religious thread. I do understand your point, but as arag has pointed out on many occassions, there are rules to follow on this site and I back him for sticking by his guns.
Sorry you disagree, but I respect your point of view. And the lack of respect for personal beliefs with this, is the issue. For all concerned. This stuff turns into a hate bash thing and that's where we are trying to curb it.



I dont have any personal problems with any mods or anything and like I said in my original post it really doesnt matter to me one way or the other , but I felt the need to reply, but how many people come to dtv to read those sort of things whether we personally agree with them or not and people rely on the fact that DTV has always been an open forum to discuss anything. its important as mods that you let go of your personal beliefs so they dont interfere with religious threads and such when there is a difference of opinion.

I dont agree with everything on here but I couldnt consider deleting something so no one else could have a chance to make up their own mind unless it was really horrible and by horrible I mean very bad!

Right now it leaves dtv in a bad spot, I cant post a religious thread for fear of someone accusing me as having an agenda. But I could post a video of a family being bombed and children being killed and no one would mention a thing and that makes dtv a very biased place, it will end up being rense.com before you know it if only certain types of religions which are approved can be posted. im not promoting any certain religion im just speaking for the right for all people to choose their own belief without being punished, and deleting a persons thread is a punishment for the user and more so if other users flamed the thread just to get it removed, and if all you gotta do is flame a thread to get it deleted then there is another problem right there that the mods should work on without punishing the whole of the DTV community!

I just dont want to see DTV turn into youtube , thats all they do is delete videos or alter the music or cut stuff out and its unfair to the poster and the viewers both and they hide behind a bunch of cleverly worded rules but no matter how you reason it out its a form of censorship.

This thread is agenda driven and I ask that it be locked and or deleted!!!! Seriously this thread is a waste and serves no actual purpose so please delete it

Re: Can We Talk About Religion or God?

Post by TheDuck » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:06 am

dlslith wrote:
theduck wrote:Try it anywhere really Slith lol

You know it man. Pocket Jacks and you lost. WTF!


Didn't lose I folded, got away cheaply, you only lose if you get to showdown and they win, which they would have, two people in the pot after I raised, flop came down Ace Queen...

I'm still winning now though. :wink:

Re: Can We Talk About Religion or God?

Post by Slith » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:03 am

theduck wrote:Try it anywhere really Slith lol

You know it man. Pocket Jacks and you lost. WTF!

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