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Re: Intentions

Post by Seriouscitizen » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:33 pm

Knownawareness wrote:

Just like this e.g ( 1. YES )

Your world is my world and its condition is the same, if this does not resonate with you then I am afraid there is nothing you can do and to explain it one step further. We are on the same Consciousness level that allows form to materialize so we are. Your happy feeling world inside and out contains the same conditions, and problems when you look for or at them and we as the world are either going to accept this or deny it. Denial is simply not dealing with our current collective ACTUALITY.


LOL 1.YES. `so what about it? Sorry for splitting hairs but actually the only ACTUALITY here and now is me sitting in behind the pc in my room and the feelings i have with that. MY here and now. Only when i turn on the tv and connect with the (fear) message it is sending me i connect with the reality in other places.

So all this what you posted happening and has come up to this point. What about it?

Me personally i try to make focus points for the collective consciouness and help out here and there by talking to people and giving them undconditional love. And besides that i volunteer for a conscious political party. If you have more activities we can do please appoint them. i am more than ready to help with my talents :)

Re: Intentions

Post by Newearthman » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:23 pm

Seriouscitizen wrote:But i'm not sure if ill give in to the purpuse of it.



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Re: Intentions

Post by Knownawareness » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:09 pm

Please do not change my words.

Knownawareness wrote: I never however thought that I could change the world with just a good heart and mind about others.


The word just here is important.

You are part of the world on this level of existence. You see me from your perspective and I see you from my own that does no make it your world and my world. This makes it ACTUALITY. You can think you are changing the world but it is not completely correct it is your decoding of the world that is and will be. The people all over the world are the same today as they were yesterday(spirit not saying they dont change). Your world has pain because it is the very same world that we all see. The people around you agree they see the same world as this again is ACTUALITY. If I went to where you are in the world and you saw me and I saw you, then it would be the same world I left my Country from. Our constant ACTUALITY does not change. If it did we would never agree.

Answer YES if it is correct to the following in your reality.

1. Is Obama currently president in the USA?

2. Did the Tsunami hit Japan last year?

3. Is there current talks regarding Iran and Nuclear Weapons in your news or can you see this if you search?

Just like this e.g ( 1. YES )

Your world is my world and its condition is the same, if this does not resonate with you then I am afraid there is nothing you can do and to explain it one step further. We are on the same Consciousness level that allows form to materialize so we are. Your happy feeling world inside and out contains the same conditions, and problems when you look for or at them and we as the world are either going to accept this or deny it. Denial is simply not dealing with our current collective ACTUALITY.

Re: Intentions

Post by *WillEase* » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:49 pm

Seriouscitizen wrote:I did respond to that Will. IT makes me shy. Also i believe i have said anything there is to be said. I have high respect for NEM doing it. But i'm not sure if ill give in to the purpuse of it. If the purpose that he stated is actually the purpose that he is after. I think there a multiple layers behind his intentions.. mysterious eeh ;) NEM is awesome, for sure, for doing it :) Don't you agree?


In one hand I thought it was kind of sweet. On the other, kind of creepy.

Re: Intentions

Post by Seriouscitizen » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:43 pm

I did respond to that Will. IT makes me shy. Also i believe i have said anything there is to be said. I have high respect for NEM doing it. But i'm not sure if ill give in to the purpuse of it. If the purpose that he stated is actually the purpose that he is after. I think there a multiple layers behind his intentions.. mysterious eeh ;) NEM is awesome, for sure, for doing it :) Don't you agree?

Re: Intentions

Post by *WillEase* » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:39 pm

I was just curious so sorry about this being slightly off topic. What did you think of this...
nem-s-epic-love-song-strange-and-beautiful-t79268.html

Re: Intentions

Post by Seriouscitizen » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:26 pm

I am sorry Knownawareness because i'd rather say this to you in person, because right now i don't know were you 'knowledge' is based upon or what your personal patterns are that give you this point of perception. Obviously it doesn't resonate with me. But i'm sure there a lot of people that do resonate with you. But to me the simple fact that you miss to point out that it is all a PERSONAL perception of YOU. Tells me you lack a base of personal conscious awareness. That the material world cannot be changed by having focus points trough collective consciouness is MY truth. And because i share it with several other people sharing the same experiences makes it a collective truth. wich rules out the possibility of an illusion. Realtity isn't a democracy in where the majority decides wich is true or false or can judge in any way. That is an old dogma put in place by several beliefsystems. May i remind you on your quote that you never tried or believed that you can change reality by focusing on it? This rules out that you could have any CONSCIOUS experience in wich this actually happened. Being that manifestations happends with conscious intention. So to MY OPINION and experience when you don't believe you can do it. You will never do it. And if it does. You will disclaim it as mere coincedence. It is a choice on how you perceive it, yes.

I respect your opinion, but i would love it if you also state it as it is. A opinion. I want to adivise you to be conscious like that. You see i appreicate the things you put out. And the world needs help. Part of being conscious inside opens up portals in wich you actually FEEL the pain of the world. You don't have to believe me. But that is another story. You don't have to convince me the world is in pain. I know it. But thanks anyway for being fullhearted about it.
I know i might be out of line here and you may perceive me as a wacko. But i think you can be a good help for the world if you try and discover those patterns you have. To clean up. IT helps you get in tune with 'the field', have you heard of that. This field will give you the inspiration you need to battle the fear and pain that causes people to be locked up in this system in wich they arent able to wake up and die of hunger. I studied anthopologie and sociology for a year and ive seen a lot of that suffering you speak off. I currently work temporarely in a cemetary in wich burry 2 too 3 people under the age of 50 dying of cancer. I think most of us know where the cancer comes from right? These things are real... But i personally do feel like people as Dan Winter and others have locked in to some universal knowledge that is one the the biggest weapons that can be used, ever. And its called colective consciousness.
At least thanks for reading this ;) And if you have the chance look into the 100th monkey experiment. IT tells a lot about how changes in consciousness do have effect. And if you don't want to thats fine by me. Free will remember :D

Re: Intentions

Post by Knownawareness » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:51 pm

Seriouscitizen wrote:Yes i have seen in my own experience that being conscious directly effects what happends in the material world around you.


It may alter your perception of the world around you but not physically alter the state of it. I can prove this to you by the following.

In your life you experienced/or can have knowledge of:

The inside job 9/11 attack.
The Tsunami in Japan.
The ongoing false war on terror.
The everyday ongoing battles of innocents in Syria.
The uprising of Spanish Citizens over Austerity.
The millions starving over the planet.
Obama is the current President of USA.

Another example of the fact you cannot physically change the world around you is that your conscious mind does not manifest/maintain the World in which you live. You manifest on the World. Your thoughts do not or cannot ever change the world or its condition. IF this was the case some on the earth would not see the starving children that exist, as they would be on a different timeline therefore experience a different state/condition of that Country.

You thinking that your intentions are good and helping people to find themselves inside and out does not remove the problems that still exist. It is a good thing and you do deserve to receive good back, this however is not always the case. You may or may not get good things for your actions. Children dying at an age before they learn the meaning of the word " intent " or " intentions " is not fair or just. It simply is and that is what happened in Your reality and My reality and all who read this. The world is in a bad condition due to the lack of loving people creating the standards in which we live. THIS is Freewill of the past, it does not change, it can only be changed and made better by future actions. Your thoughts may help others from now and in the future but it cannot change the past of everyone currently living on the planet at this time.

Now I am not saying it is not good to think positive to help change the/our current world for the better. I am also not saying that it will not help at all. The mere fact of thinking positive is an ability based on your current location in the world. Happy people sharing things with happy people is not including the unhappy people. No one stopping to help their neighbor creates a divide. The division exists until all see that division is the problem. War is wrong. Racism is wrong. Hurting Animals is wrong. Famine is unnecessary at anytime.

I know who I am inside and need no labels because this is not " knowing " and " balanced". No thought will ever remove the current conditions caused by the past Freewill choices of man. Thinking that you can shut your eyes and open them in a world now changed, just based on the way of a new perception of life is a delusion.

So your consciousness mind does not maintain Earth. So your ability can only go as far as helping people become aware of the world and how it could be. This could then make the next freewill decisions of others change as they choose to change themselves. This will not EVER change the world physically.

Re: Intentions

Post by Seriouscitizen » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:27 am

Knownawareness wrote:
Seriouscitizen wrote:As to your reply Knowingness. You repeat the same statements made in the first reply. And I do get the point. And i also already said i agree. But it seems that you are saying that being conscious and having a mindset focused on hapiness can't cooporate with having intentions in helping people? How can you prove this? Where is it logical to assume that helping people wont make you happy? You disclaim happiness to be a mechanism to help be conscious but you cannot deside for people what makes them happy. Or can you? I think i can imagine where you come from. Correct me if i am wrong but it seems like you think that choosing the actions that make you happy will be selfdestructing or even destructing the world? I might be verty unique but, i think i am not, and i think people like Dan Winter discussing fractality and feng shui and how this ties in with Bliss, show how actually simple things as nature and fearless connections with other people are that what make people blissfull.


I am all for helping people and I feel I have a pretty understanding heart and I care for the whole world.
What I am saying is it is going to take a lot more than people who agree sitting around and talking about how it helps to be a caring loving person. This does not fix any of the problems currently in our broken world. My point this if everyone did than we would have less things to fix and alter for the better right now,
99socks said it perfectly " Living in a Happy Bubble ". Interacting with other happy bubbles creates the ability to neglect or fully ignore the real word on its current timeline. We need people to change and see yes I agree but it is not going to just happen. Choosing the changes and making the changes is what has to happen,
removing the problems rather than just pointing them out as One World Group.


I appreciate you commening and speaking your heart and mind. In my mindset i allow people to have free will, because i trust the,. An i belive when i free them of my set of beliefsystems and judgements they will also gain trust back in themself. I can only speak for me. As you can only speak for you in the end. THe difference in being connected and being seperate, in my observation, is fear of love. DO you trust, and therefor love, that the state of consciousness a person is in will contribute to growth. Or do you fear that the state of consciousness your fellow humans are in will contribute to disctruction. Do you accept people have actual free will. To me it isn't that everyone likes what is happening and is fine with it. But are they consciouss enough to see what is happening around, BUT ALSO INSIDE of them.

Yes i have seen in my own experience that being conscious directly effects what happends in the material world around you. So that is why i am advocating to become conscious about your intentions. What you or i do with is remains free will. The only guide i have is that i do my best to feel good about the things that i do. And never stop learning. I cannot judge or assume what it is that make people happy. IT also depends on what you conceive as being. That depends on HOW CONSCIOUS YOU ARE ABOUT YOU INSIDE> Do you have the right 'label' for the right feeling. To me being happy is being centered and focused. IN balance. And in that state of mind i can fully use my free will to direct and act fully with al of my energies on the subjects that i want to focus on. Like healing the world.

So thank you for commenting. I think i do understand where you are coming from. And i respect that you see the suffering and point out that it needs help.

Re: Intentions

Post by Knownawareness » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:39 am

Seriouscitizen wrote:As to your reply Knowingness. You repeat the same statements made in the first reply. And I do get the point. And i also already said i agree. But it seems that you are saying that being conscious and having a mindset focused on hapiness can't cooporate with having intentions in helping people? How can you prove this? Where is it logical to assume that helping people wont make you happy? You disclaim happiness to be a mechanism to help be conscious but you cannot deside for people what makes them happy. Or can you? I think i can imagine where you come from. Correct me if i am wrong but it seems like you think that choosing the actions that make you happy will be selfdestructing or even destructing the world? I might be verty unique but, i think i am not, and i think people like Dan Winter discussing fractality and feng shui and how this ties in with Bliss, show how actually simple things as nature and fearless connections with other people are that what make people blissfull.


I am all for helping people and I feel I have a pretty understanding heart and I care for the whole world.
What I am saying is it is going to take a lot more than people who agree sitting around and talking about how it helps to be a caring loving person. This does not fix any of the problems currently in our broken world. My point this if everyone did than we would have less things to fix and alter for the better right now,
99socks said it perfectly " Living in a Happy Bubble ". Interacting with other happy bubbles creates the ability to neglect or fully ignore the real word on its current timeline. We need people to change and see yes I agree but it is not going to just happen. Choosing the changes and making the changes is what has to happen,
removing the problems rather than just pointing them out as One World Group.

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