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Re: The Life After Death thread...

Post by Rich316 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:50 pm

DarkHeart wrote:
Rich316 wrote:And think about this. What keeps you grounded here on earth is of course karma, but also ego keeps you here experiencing life.

The ONLY time your ego is completely slayed is 1. when you die and 2. at the peak of an orgasm - this is when you truly die for a split second. Now think about when they talk about how blissful the higher realms are. So the feeling of having your ego completely slayed is much like the peak of an orgasm. You become that feeling when you dont get reborn and you retain that pure awareness of what you truly are also.


Where is this from ?

All the mystery schools & religions teach that the ego has to be vanquished before death for the simple reason that otherwise the soul has to go through the purging process of the Second Death.


It's not from a religion or mystery school.. They're just guessing, instilling fear into their followers...
It's Buddhist.. Some folks called Buddhism a religion.. I think it's more a lifestyle than anything else.. When you don't need to 'join up' to become one is when you know it's not a religion imo.

Most humans endure about 30 days of bardo where everything they conjure up is illusory, it can be hell, it can be tormenting, it is the state of ones own mind at the time of death or at the end of the said life. A well trained practioner like a buddhist spends less than 30 mins in the bardo and knows exactly what is going on too. That is where every living being needs to end up being able to do in order to escape this hell realm and experience real bliss...

Re: The Life After Death thread...

Post by DarkHeart » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:21 pm

Rich316 wrote:And think about this. What keeps you grounded here on earth is of course karma, but also ego keeps you here experiencing life.

The ONLY time your ego is completely slayed is 1. when you die and 2. at the peak of an orgasm - this is when you truly die for a split second. Now think about when they talk about how blissful the higher realms are. So the feeling of having your ego completely slayed is much like the peak of an orgasm. You become that feeling when you dont get reborn and you retain that pure awareness of what you truly are also.


Where is this from ?

All the mystery schools & religions teach that the ego has to be vanquished before death for the simple reason that otherwise the soul has to go through the purging process of the Second Death.

Re: The Life After Death thread...

Post by Rich316 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:10 pm

And think about this. What keeps you grounded here on earth is of course karma, but also ego keeps you here experiencing life.

The ONLY time your ego is completely slayed is 1. when you die and 2. at the peak of an orgasm - this is when you truly die for a split second. Now think about when they talk about how blissful the higher realms are. So the feeling of having your ego completely slayed is much like the peak of an orgasm. You become that feeling when you dont get reborn and you retain that pure awareness of what you truly are also.

Re: The Life After Death thread...

Post by Rich316 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:52 pm

goku wrote:According to him, there is a phony, superficial 'god, love and happiness' feeling when in the white light as if that is a program to entrain you to like that place and choose to go back there. He says there is a complete system used on earth to trap souls here and make them forget who they are, their past life memories and goals upon incarnating.

One spirit from a Dolores Cannon book mentions how stupid incarnating to earth is lol. She said it's like you sign up to go to college, then when you get there, there is no school, no books, no teachers and nobody knows what they're supposed to be doing. Apparently Earth is like the only place around like that.

Cash also mentions his past life memories as a free spiritual being and being lured into a body. There was a naked man in a chair being pleasured by four naked women, and he went into the body for the pleasure of it. Then he was locked into the body. He also mentions various ET putting him into different bodies and dropping him off in certain areas to be perceived as a holy man of god.


I agree with Dolores Cannon but this other guy doesn't get it and maybe just wants to sell books.... The 'light' that encompasses ones soul after death in the physical realm is a marker for what reality you are next to be born into. You 'glide' along a plane of coloured light and you will stop at a certain point (different for everyone) when the light becomes too intense. The colour of the light at this point dictates the type of reality you are to be born back into. some are physical realities, usually grey smokey coloured light gets you reborn as a human or animal, that's right down there though.. like Dolores says. The red light for example gets your born into the realm of degenerated consciousness - a reality full of highly advanced logical thinkers - ET's for example. but keep in mind it's a state of mind, they're not all completely seperate worlds, they overlap even here on earth you have people who are spiritually higher up the ladder than others. The entire event is overseen by many high up entities who love us and care about us including what we call guardian angels.

What this guy is seeing is the illusion that the untrained see in the bardo area after death. There is no factory or system keeping humans here on earth, that's just ridiculous imo. We're kept here because of one thing and one thing alone - KARMA - the law of cause and effect.

And as for going into pure white light, not many people end up going there (cant you tell?). you dont get 'reborn' if you become encompassed by this light. you become part of the collective, the god, the infinite creator, the flux of all conditions if u will. Buddhists take a vow to be reborn into this harsh world to help others become enlightened too.. probably knowing how much more blissful it is up there in the higher realms, I'd say this act of compassion for us red necks is one of the greatest.

Re: The Life After Death thread...

Post by DarkHeart » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:32 am

If you google (or whatever search engine you use) "The Eye of Ra, Truman Cash pdf" you can down load it for free.

It seems pretty much bang on.

Re: The Life After Death thread...

Post by Andgene » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:30 am

After years and years of going trough the same theories...
I found comfort and truth in these words:

Reality is not only stranger than we suppose but stranger than we can suppose.
- J. B. S. Haldane

We will never know untill we die what happens after, the stupid situation in the world wont alow any serious research....

Re: The Life After Death thread...

Post by goku » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:35 am

from here: http://www.near-death-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=24316

Greetings.

As you can see im new to this forum but im not new to the world of the afterlife.
It is inevitable that we are ALL going to die at some point so what you are about to read could save you a million more trips back to this War torn Earth plane of Existence.
I will not go into enormous detail at this particular point but let me assure you that this information is correct and is one of the most Fundamental tools of the "Unseen Hands" for keeping Human Souls in the Physical world time and time again or as others call it "Reincarnation".

This thing what keeps returning us to all the suffering of World Wars and Third World Famines etc, is asolutely so simple its been staring us in the face for Thousands of years..This Simple tool is called "The White Light"

This famous White Light is what we are "supposed" to go to when we die and is "supposed" to take us to our true home or vibration of the soul. NDEs will give us a glimpse of this and OBEs can actually enter this light.
Well let me "Enlighten" you (pardon the pun)

The White Light is nothing but an interdimensional Soul Catcher. I will guarantee you if you enter this upon death you will eventually reincarnate. Some people might want this to happen (materialistic people perhaps) but true spiritual warriors avoid this like the plague and fight against the many years and lifetimes of suffering that goes on in the Physical world.
We can all Pretend that our lives are great and life is fantastic, but deep down we all know that our loved ones will depart from us and every human soul on the planet will suffer from some kind of negative Emotion at some time in thier life.
If you had a choice in the matter what would you do?
would you come back to Planet Earth and face the harsh reality of mass control and Fear or would you choose to go back to your true place of birth "The Source" or oneness with your so called God!! I know where I will be going.

Before anyone of you condemn my posting just wait five minutes and way this theory up, after all its been virtually staring us in the face.
"What happens if you dont go into the Light then, Do you become an earthbound spirit or trapped in purgatory or the lower Astral etc etc"
NO it is the biggest lie in History.When your time is up and eventually get to cross over(As we all forget it could happen tomorrow or in 50 years) and youve left the Physical body, Stop, look around, Look up there will be a blinding white light above, Look to the sides of it and there is a Golden light. The Golden light is the way to the Source and it bypasses the great void.
All the Spirits in the Afterlife are still in enslavement(albeit a less dense one) and the Astral + Spirit worlds are actually illusions of the collective consciousness of ALL matter(not just Human).Spirits STILL dont realise they are manipulated even in other dimensions.Spirits STILL dont realise that ALL mankind and everything else is connected.Only those at the source can be truly free.

If you think im a crackpot or in need of help please would you remember this ONE thing
The white light is designed to keep us enslaved and to be reborn again to continue the "Slave Race" of humanity. Go for Gold, End of Story.

Regards
Gman :wink:

Hello Friends,

I am quite pleased with the reception, I can honestly say I was expecting a full condemnation of this Phenomena.
I have had quite a few P.Ms on this posting so I will answer most of the questions. But first I am so Glad that Manuel replied with his stunning rendition.Let me tell you all I was absolutely flabbergasted with this Matrix 5 doc and "Hand on Heart" I have never read this before, Truly amazing.

I have come to realise that the Golden Light has only just started to make it as public knowledge (well the past 6 years) I have been talking about it for a long time.
I have been a student of many discliplines..Metaphysics,Classic and Quantum Physics,Mysticism,Ufology,Parapsychology and Occult practises so yes ive heard just about every theory known in the public domain.
I have been a successful Astral projector for 14 years now and I have seen many things Good and Bad.
I stumbled across this forum and (I am not trying to offend anybody)found many misguided and misinformed souls.Let me make it clear that I am not Religious in any form and do not condemn anybody who is.
The present Human Race (especially in the West) have been bombarded with egotistical,meglomaniac beings driven purely by greed and power.This represents our Governments and Religions right down to the Local Gangbangers to the Fake so called Psychics and healers etc.
We have been bombarded with "New Age Messiahs" and New Age theories many which are Harmless but some which are not.
We are in a time where we just dont know what to believe!!

I entered the world of Astral Projection because of this. I just had to make my own mind up and witness it first hand instead of the local Clergy telling me *beep* like I would not go to Heaven if I didnt Repent (Bulls***).

I have met thousands of Non Physical beings most who were Positive and some Negative (I bare the Scars)
When I watch a T.V psychic perform it makes me cringe, not because I dont believe him/her but because He or She is being used to manipulate the Masses and the info given is about 0.000001 of what is realy happening on the "other side". This is what I found...

1.There is no Hell after death (The Physical world we live in is Hell and the Lower Astral is the Mirror Image)
2.The Dead are no different to what we are (Different Frequency) and are still controlled in seperate Kingdoms or Belief systems.
3.There are no E.Ts as such but only Interdimensional Beings (Ufos are Reality Skip vehicles)
4.The Physical,Astral,Spirit Realms are all collective Illusions have all been Manipulated at some point but now it is changing.
Now heres what I have been told also..

ALL realms including the Physical will merge in the next 20 of our Earth years.
I have nothing to gain from this info and I dont expect everyone to believe it but this is what I saw and heard in my Personal Reality.

Now back to the Golden Light..
I have entered this light 4 times EVERY time I got back to (What I call) the Source. The Source is the God mind or true Freedom....Bliss
Everything on the entire planet is connected and we are all a part of this source, we have only forgotten we are.
The White Light is there to make sure we dont Remember.
I have been through the White Light many times and I usually get to one of the high Astral Planes or lower Spirit (Depends on my energy work)
This is where all our deceased are.
The Deceased think they are in heaven and so called Higher beings keep telling them they are. They say that only Angels and beings of the Higher Spirit worlds can only merge with God..Bull****
ANYONE can YOU or I , dont fall for it...

Regards
Gman

from here: http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/show ... Light-Trap

Anyone else hear about this? Some alien researchers say that not only do ET's manipulate our physical bodies in this world, but they also deceive us after we've died. Robert Morningsky warns us not to go into the white light we see when we die because it is a trap to further our enslavement and put us straight back into another body. He says to stop, look around, go out into space and find your own light. The white light is used as a reprogramming centre to install amnesia and screw up our lives because we forget our past lives from this. Susan Reed reports that reptilians erase our past life memories so our subconscious believes we have more karma to pay back than we really do. This also fits in with the Wingmakers guy James who talks about Anu creating an artificial world and luring and trapping souls into it so he can be king of the world.

In The Eye of Ra, Truman Cash talks about his experiences in the white light with ET's like Mantis Beings. He says it is used for brainwashing purposes during abductions. In a few of his past lives when he died, he would automatically report back to a ufo and into the white light to be reprogrammed and sent back into another body before he could fly on and go somewhere else.

According to him, there is a phony, superficial 'god, love and happiness' feeling when in the white light as if that is a program to entrain you to like that place and choose to go back there. He says there is a complete system used on earth to trap souls here and make them forget who they are, their past life memories and goals upon incarnating.

One spirit from a Dolores Cannon book mentions how stupid incarnating to earth is lol. She said it's like you sign up to go to college, then when you get there, there is no school, no books, no teachers and nobody knows what they're supposed to be doing. Apparently Earth is like the only place around like that.

Cash also mentions his past life memories as a free spiritual being and being lured into a body. There was a naked man in a chair being pleasured by four naked women, and he went into the body for the pleasure of it. Then he was locked into the body. He also mentions various ET putting him into different bodies and dropping him off in certain areas to be perceived as a holy man of god.

We are not a computer program

Post by Endtimeman » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:44 am

The closest scientific explanation I can give you is that we are neither a program nor
Android Mix. What we are is a tangible life form fitting to living in this universe rule them is given to rule, but a head to whom is given too. We live within an entity with a scientific comparison to a brain made of that which expands an infinite amount of energy without producing heat, this brain in the which this universe exist is the entity that formed all that consist, It has a program running by comparison to scientific meaning, I don't have to tell what power a programmer has over his or her program. We are part of Its program, we have gained conscience existence and in due course the knowledge of good and evil, the Law, and forthwith having said we see now what abounds and the things hidden, therefore now we must abide by it, whatever decree had come to our conscience knowledge. No man can claim ignorance of the Law as a man without the determined consequence to pay the highest court. Yet when a man is not yet a man is there still a consequence to bear for in infraction of the Law. A wise man leaves scientific to the scientist and the spiritual things to the spiritual inspired ones. So don't go looking for spiritual information from a scientist that has no spiritual inclination or understand of spiritual. Avoid the fallacy of the Atheist: to them anything is possible--likely in the same mind with Pontius Pilate asking what is the law, isn't it what we make it? they determine themselves what is possible, like a multiverse, therefore is possible because it is, ghost can exist because they can, God is fiction because it can be, having no knowledge of otherwise it being they consider, such a reasoning a logical conclusion; such men have been in that state of mind since ancient times even when the evidence of God's existence even before there very eyes. My Brethren saint Marie Bernarde of sibiru, in Europe, did an excellent work showing the populace, through an intermediary a Sign from God--because these people where all ready to fall away for lack of Bread and would have at coming [i]hell on Earth[i] of the world wars, she needed make these people prepare to bear with an aid, a heavenly intervention that would sustain their spirit that it be not lost in the hell, for indeed the time and season was coming that had not been since the world was. These word will have suffice though it is mainly for them that are spiritually discerned, to most this word are utter garbage or dark saying with a hidden meaning as Scripture is. Hey, is isn't scripture fiction? fairy tales? How about, wow there are some many God's books in every religion how is a man to choose one? These Contemporary time a man will how do we know there one God if there is one? Bringing us quite possibly into what if I was taught in some history class in Brooklyn, New York--in 1975 the study of generational flow that that led to what we call now the "Contemporary age" would eventually lead the new century, 2000, named the Anti-Christian age, that way in the distant future for me than, I was just begin my twenty-first birthday then and was thinking well I hope I am not alive then to in that hell, a people without Christ can't be a good thing. So lo and behold the things abound now compare the 70's or earlier. Not to worry the end is not yet many things yet need to be fulfil.

Re: The Life After Death thread...

Post by 99socks » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:24 am

Spock wrote:Very nice, you're synopsis mirrors my own very much. Not so much your visions, but as far as your explanations. Though I still don't understand "hell" and don't want to. In a universe where good wins, and evil is a byproduct of free will, I tend to believe that God makes Himself known to everybody at some juncture and invites them back to Himself, away from the consequences of their wrongdoings, as we would our own child who habitually failed - even if it was remorse after his spirit passed over. But I'm not sure of that. Like you said, I have no answers, just gut feelings and there seem to be plenty of supporting evidence for this in some of the NDE experiences.

Thanks for sharing.



The more this stuff comes up, the more I start to find value in the theology of the Orthodox church (I think the Roman church robbed us of soooo much).

It makes more and more sense, that heaven and hell aren't actual places, but states of Being- either being connected (with God, if that is what you believe) or being disconnected (from God).

When we die, we all go back to the same place... It you are a "connected" person, the experience is wonderful and loving. If you "disconnected" then it is terribly uncomfortable, fear-inducing, etc. It's like, the afterlife has a vibration, and you either get closer and closer to matching that vibration in your life (sanctification in Western terminology) until you finally die and slip into complete harmony with everything, or else your vibration gets more and more out-of-whack with the afterlife until you die and find out what real disharmony is.

Re: The Life After Death thread...

Post by Spock » Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:55 pm

BUMP - because I pulled 2 quotes from this to another thread

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