TYT (Cenk) Really Pushing for Gun Control

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Re: TYT (Cenk) Really Pushing for Gun Control

Post by Harbin » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:51 pm

Re: TYT (Cenk) Really Pushing for Gun Control

Post by Truthdefender » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:28 pm

Domeika wrote:The feigned outrage is part and parcel of political correctness as it relates to guns. They have no other response because reason has no place at the altar of PC and likewise common sense either.

If you find yourself in the presence of a maniac bent on robbery or worse, wholesale slaughter, you can....

A) Check your pockets and see if you have an armed police officer in there somewhere that will defend you with lethal force. If you do happen to find one, chances are you have a unicorn in your other pocket.

B) Kneel and prepare to take one to the head like a good little sheep.

C) Draw your own firearm and take the responsibility of preserving your life and the lives of those around you at the potential expense of the earth losing one valueless scumbag.

I prefer option C myself. All these people railing about gun control have some kind of perverse detatchment from reality. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a lunatic these days and to think that the police will somehow show up seconds before a massacre and save the day shows a level of reasoning that is comic book at best. Police carry weapons for their protection, not yours. If they happen to shoot a rampaging maniac then kudos to them. But for you as an individual, in 99.9% of cases, they show up with tape to mark the spot of your untimely demise. Of course they'll spend whatever tax money they need to in order to catch and convict the perpetrator, not saying they'll definately catch them, but either way you'll definately still be dead.

The call for more gun control is completely wrong, and would have a worsening affect, not a better one. These lunatics that seem to be filing out of the woodwork these days all want to be famous or infamous by going down in history for a body count, plain and simple. The ONLY deterrant is going to be when one of these nutjobs tries to pull off a massacre and 2, 3, or 20 citizens open fire on their carzy ass and leave them looking like an abused pinata. THAT might keep the next crazy home, and if not, let it happen again and again until the loon community gets it that it's not a good idea to pick a fight with a firing squad.

You can't reason with crazy, but you sure as hell can kill it.
Just my 2 cents


One of the most concise and true to reality comments ever posted on this site. Once upon a time in my life a decade ago or so, I was involved in an ongoing criminal enterprise, (time served by the way), and I can tell you from experience that the organized (and disorganized) criminal element never buys their straps from a store. But we had lots of 'em. So all the gun control freaks will do if successful is make sure that only the criminals, sociopaths, and tyrannical military is in possession of firearms. Now that is a scary world to live in. I can no longer own a firearm, nor do I want one, but it is a comforting thought that my neighbor may have one. Know what I'm saying?

Re: TYT (Cenk) Really Pushing for Gun Control

Post by Seahawk » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:39 am

An American cop in Canada, giving gun owners a bad name. It's not your average, second amendment carrier- it's a cop! BIG difference!!!!


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Re: TYT (Cenk) Really Pushing for Gun Control

Post by Domeika » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:15 pm

Harbin wrote:
Domeika wrote:
Pitchke wrote:People kill people, guns are just a tool to do that.


Yep, and we should lobby to ban all tools. Just look at what some people do with wrenches... :dancing:

Texas Woman Accused Of Beating Husband To Death With Wrench
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Texas_Woman_Accused_Of_Beating_Husband_To_Death_With_Wrench_160691075.html

Man beaten with wrench and hammer, suspect arrested
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5831856

Rousillac woman beaten to death with wrench, male relative held
http://ctntworld.com/LocalArticles.aspx?id=43476

Police: Whitehall woman, 71, fatally beaten with wrench
http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/local/police-investigate-homicide-white-hall/nL54S/

Woman Allegedly Beat Mother With Plumbing Wrench
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/woman-allegedly-beat-mother-with-plumbing-wrench/nFCLC/

15-year-old accused of beating Naples High student with a wrench
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/mar/05/15-year-old-accused-beating-naples-high-student-wr/

Woman, 89, beaten to death
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Woman__89__beaten_to_death-162492086.html

The list goes on and on, and I'm not even going to go into the horror caused by screwdrivers. :nails:


See. It is well past time to pass wrench licensing and registration laws, along with restrictions and outright bans on the more dangerous types of wrenches. This is not frontier American any more.


Don't forget assault screw guns.... :dancing:

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Re: TYT (Cenk) Really Pushing for Gun Control

Post by Harbin » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:22 pm

Domeika wrote:
Pitchke wrote:People kill people, guns are just a tool to do that.


Yep, and we should lobby to ban all tools. Just look at what some people do with wrenches... :dancing:

Texas Woman Accused Of Beating Husband To Death With Wrench
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Texas_Woman_Accused_Of_Beating_Husband_To_Death_With_Wrench_160691075.html

Man beaten with wrench and hammer, suspect arrested
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5831856

Rousillac woman beaten to death with wrench, male relative held
http://ctntworld.com/LocalArticles.aspx?id=43476

Police: Whitehall woman, 71, fatally beaten with wrench
http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/local/police-investigate-homicide-white-hall/nL54S/

Woman Allegedly Beat Mother With Plumbing Wrench
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/woman-allegedly-beat-mother-with-plumbing-wrench/nFCLC/

15-year-old accused of beating Naples High student with a wrench
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/mar/05/15-year-old-accused-beating-naples-high-student-wr/

Woman, 89, beaten to death
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Woman__89__beaten_to_death-162492086.html

The list goes on and on, and I'm not even going to go into the horror caused by screwdrivers. :nails:


See. It is well past time to pass wrench licensing and registration laws, along with restrictions and outright bans on the more dangerous types of wrenches. This is not frontier American any more.

Re: TYT (Cenk) Really Pushing for Gun Control

Post by mediasorcery » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:45 pm

well, go buy yourself a gun then harbin.

Re: TYT (Cenk) Really Pushing for Gun Control

Post by Harbin » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:22 pm

Spock wrote:Look at all the automobile fatalities, the nuts driving on the road, preoccupied kids texting, drunks, etc.

2,500 pound weapons of death in every citizens hands.

I think we should outlaw automobiles accept for government funded public transportation. Think of all the new jobs!


You are right ! Autos will be banned to the general public and community based transportation will be available to those qualified in the new smart growth zones.

Re: TYT (Cenk) Really Pushing for Gun Control

Post by Spock » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:10 pm

Look at all the automobile fatalities, the nuts driving on the road, preoccupied kids texting, drunks, etc.

2,500 pound weapons of death in every citizens hands.

I think we should outlaw automobiles accept for government funded public transportation. Think of all the new jobs!

Re: TYT (Cenk) Really Pushing for Gun Control

Post by Spock » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:54 pm

Harbin wrote:Oh yes. The gun nut answer to all gun violence:

Arm everyone. If everyone just had a CCL and CC'ed, everything would be ok.

Why not just pass an open carry for the entire country !?

Everybody goes out of the house with hip iron on. Ah what a wonderful idea !



That's the beauty of the "RIGHT" to bear arms, it's a personal decision. Therefore, you don't have to have one and the government is not going to force everyone to have one. In that regard, your logic is ridiculous, and tired, and typical.

If you are more concerned with possibly intruding on a bears cubs in the woods, and feel it is the mother bears god-given instinct to maul you to death, you can be devoured happily knowing that no government agency forced you to carry a firearm to inhumanely plug a cap right between Mama Bears eyes.

Likewise, you shouldn't feel obligated to protect yourself or your family from the unfortunate event that some crazed nerd decides he wants to enact the violent video game in real life. You can be turned to swiss cheese, but in good conscience as your final thoughts are focused on if that poor kid reached out for help months ago, and psychologists and police didn't react in time. That he must have had a bad outlook on life because his parents didn't instill a well grounded moral foundation and he was left to occupy himself in his bedroom, with his own faults that were heavily jaded from years of being bullied. At least you didn't enforce your will on that mentally raging child and maybe before either the cops put him down, or he rots in prison, he will have time to heal his inner child - but at least you never contributed to his downward spiral.

It takes a village! Right Harbin?

Re: TYT (Cenk) Really Pushing for Gun Control

Post by Domeika » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:48 pm

Harbin wrote:
Domeika wrote:
Harbin wrote:Oh yes. The gun nut answer to all gun violence:

Arm everyone. If everyone just had a CCL and CC'ed, everything would be ok.

Why not just pass an open carry for the entire country !?

Everybody goes out of the house with hip iron on. Ah what a wonderful idea !


How about you as an individual? Or me? If you, not some hypothetical group, but you, for no fault of your own, are put in harms way and only lethal force will save you. What then?

Whatever your beliefs are, I would never condemn you or anyone else for taking steps protect themselves. But if you don't believe in protecting yourself, why is it so important to denigrate those that do? Is a person wearing a life-jacket on a boat a life-jacket nut? Or in a car and wearing a seat-belt a seat-belt nut? Or is that reserved for this argument alone?



Life jackets and seat belts don't shoot anyone, these are safety devices. Spin isn't a solid intellectual position.

Do you carry ?


Yes I do, and I consider it a personal safety device.

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