Orwell Revisited: Privacy in the Age of Surveillance

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Re: Orwell Revisited: Privacy in the Age of Surveillance

Post by E6722maj » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:22 pm

yes. people are scared to say anything. if they do, they will suffer the consequences. so they don't

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Re: Orwell Revisited: Privacy in the Age of Surveillance

Post by Bandanko » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:35 pm

Seahawk wrote:I don't see very many active voices here at DTV, on the topic of what the U.S. admin has done regarding the collection of our information- phone records, and most all internet activity.


prolly why no one has said shit so far...

though i know nothing mr FBI man <doffs cap and gets back to paying taxes> :flop:

Re: Orwell Revisited: Privacy in the Age of Surveillance

Post by Lips of Lucifer » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:54 pm

Seahawk wrote:
Lips of Lucifer wrote:Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

- George Orwell


Yeah. Right on. Much easier to see that these days. They're so obvious about it- as if we're all brainless. That shit doesn't work on me any more- but still seems to hold the attention of many- as gospel.


A lot of folk still listen to the gospel


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Re: Orwell Revisited: Privacy in the Age of Surveillance

Post by Seahawk » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:41 pm

Lips of Lucifer wrote:Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

- George Orwell


Yeah. Right on. Much easier to see that these days. They're so obvious about it- as if we're all brainless. That shit doesn't work on me any more- but still seems to hold the attention of many- as gospel.

Re: Orwell Revisited: Privacy in the Age of Surveillance

Post by Lips of Lucifer » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:35 pm

Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

- George Orwell

Re: Orwell Revisited: Privacy in the Age of Surveillance

Post by Lips of Lucifer » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:57 pm

You are right...This has nothing to do with the American People. They are as surprised as everyone else at the depth of the Criminality of the corporate spokespeople they were conned into voting for. The reality is the world is 'managed' by the Elite for the Elite. Some here have seen this, but most are swayed by words not actions...The people at the Helm of Space-ship earth are not doing it for us/every body...they are doing what they do for themselves, and it was to be our Governments we thought that stood between their wild, uncontrollable avarice and us...we losing it against dangerous hollow sociopaths who are incapable of feeling anything for their herd that gives them what they love like themselves....objects.

Re: Orwell Revisited: Privacy in the Age of Surveillance

Post by Seahawk » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:07 pm

Webcat wrote:Good, relevant post! :flop:

http://ecowatch.com/2013/were-being-watched/

This site has an interesting take on the subject - Corporate Security, Intelligence and Surveillance - the watchers are now mostly private contractors, with profits as their bottom line - not 'National Security'.

Maybe that's why everything a human can do it slowly becoming a criminal act?

Today, overall annual spending on corporate security and intelligence is roughly $100 billion, double what it was a decade ago, according to Brian Ruttenbur, a defense analyst with CRT Capital.


And who are Government now relying on for Security, Intelligence and Surveillance?

Private contractors, who, like big pharma, are only interested in maintaining profits - and without plenty of 'criminals' to watch and imprison, they don't make money - just like big pharma does not really want to cure anyone, because they lose customers/money, so the spy companies must have their 'criminals' to watch.

More recently, according to a report in The Nation, the agricultural giant Monsanto contracted with a subsidiary of Blackwater, the private security firm, to gather intelligence on and possibly infiltrate environmental groups in order to protect the company’s brand name.

“This is the new normal,” says Scott Crow, an author and longtime environmental activist who was the subject of FBI and corporate surveillance for close to eight years beginning in 1999.


In the future, opposition to the great corporations, will be like committing treason - there won't be any difference between corporate and governmental power, they will be the same entity.

It won't matter a toss who you vote in - the resulting government will just be the corporations, wearing a more acceptable mask to fool the sheep.

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Good article, Webbie. :flop: It seems like we're in quicksand with no rescue in sight. It seems like most everyone is......

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Re: Orwell Revisited: Privacy in the Age of Surveillance

Post by Webcat » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:31 pm

Seahawk wrote:
I don't see very many active voices here at DTV, on the topic of what the U.S. admin has done regarding the collection of our information- phone records, and most all internet activity. This is not only about the U.S. This includes most all- if not every single one- of us here- from all over the world.

I can't help but wonder why. Are people afraid, now, to say anything about it? Do they care, not care, undecided, given up, over it all? What's the buzz? Where's the buzz?

:headscratch:


I think this is such an important thread by Seahawk, I'm going to "Bump" it! :obsessed:

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Re: Orwell Revisited: Privacy in the Age of Surveillance

Post by Poppa_pygar » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:58 am

This is what i think. Mickeys got the right idea. :flop:
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Re: Orwell Revisited: Privacy in the Age of Surveillance

Post by Webcat » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:58 am

Good, relevant post! :flop:

http://ecowatch.com/2013/were-being-watched/

This site has an interesting take on the subject - Corporate Security, Intelligence and Surveillance - the watchers are now mostly private contractors, with profits as their bottom line - not 'National Security'.

Maybe that's why everything a human can do it slowly becoming a criminal act?

Today, overall annual spending on corporate security and intelligence is roughly $100 billion, double what it was a decade ago, according to Brian Ruttenbur, a defense analyst with CRT Capital.


And who are Government now relying on for Security, Intelligence and Surveillance?

Private contractors, who, like big pharma, are only interested in maintaining profits - and without plenty of 'criminals' to watch and imprison, they don't make money - just like big pharma does not really want to cure anyone, because they lose customers/money, so the spy companies must have their 'criminals' to watch.

More recently, according to a report in The Nation, the agricultural giant Monsanto contracted with a subsidiary of Blackwater, the private security firm, to gather intelligence on and possibly infiltrate environmental groups in order to protect the company’s brand name.

“This is the new normal,” says Scott Crow, an author and longtime environmental activist who was the subject of FBI and corporate surveillance for close to eight years beginning in 1999.


In the future, opposition to the great corporations, will be like committing treason - there won't be any difference between corporate and governmental power, they will be the same entity.

It won't matter a toss who you vote in - the resulting government will just be the corporations, wearing a more acceptable mask to fool the sheep.

Image

:look:

:cheers:

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