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 Post subject: Pre-Crime Policing (This is the start)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:45 am 
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Pre-Crime Policing
Allegedly “disgruntled” man has his guns seized, and “voluntarily” surrenders to two SWAT teams and dozens of police officers for a crime that hadn’t been committed



To hear them tell it, the five police agencies who apprehended 39-year-old Oregonian David Pyles early on the morning of March 8 thwarted another lone wolf mass murderer. The police “were able to successfully take a potentially volatile male subject into protective custody for a mental evaluation,” announced a press release put out by the Medford, Oregon, police department. The subject had recently been placed on administrative leave from his job, was “very disgruntled,” and had recently purchased several firearms. “Local Law Enforcement agencies were extremely concerned that the subject was planning retaliation against his employers,” the release said. Fortunately, Pyles “voluntarily” turned himself over to police custody, and the legally purchased firearms “were seized for safekeeping.”

This voluntary exchange involved two SWAT teams, police officers from Medford and nearby Roseburg, sheriff’s deputies from Jackson and Douglas counties, and the Oregon State Police. Oregon State Police Sgt. Jeff Proulx explained to South Oregon’s Mail Tribune why the operation was such a success: “Instead of being reactive, we took a proactive approach.”

There’s just one problem: David Pyles hadn’t committed any crime, nor was he suspected of having committed one. The police never obtained a warrant for either search or arrest. They never consulted with a judge or mental health professional before sending out the military-style tactical teams to take Pyle in.


so if the government thinks these people pose a threat
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=111078

It warned of potential terrorism threats from those who:

* Oppose abortion

* Are returning veterans

* Oppose same-sex marriage

* Oppose restrictions on firearms

* Oppose lax immigration laws

* Oppose the policies of President Obama regarding immigration, citizenship, and the expansion of social programs

* Oppose continuation of free trade agreements


* Are suspect of foreign regimes

* Fear Communist regimes

* Oppose a "one world" government

* Bemoan the decline of U.S. stature in the world

* Are upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India, and more

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano later apologized to veterans for including them in the list but not to other groups of people, not even when WND also reported later that the "extremism" report was confirmed to have been based on Internet "chatter."



how long do you think it will take for people like us to be considered targets?

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how long do you think it will take for people like us to be considered targets?[/b][/color]


"We" have already been a target for a long, long time.

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minority report?? :|

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how long do you think it will take for people like us to be considered targets?[/b][/color]


"We" have already been a target for a long, long time.




your right sock
this is just another exampled of how in control the government is and how we sit back and allow it.
Do you think the soccer mom with 2.5 children gives a shit?

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whats the source? i would like to read into this some more and see/find the facts more in depth please sounds interesting

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I wonder if the sheriff was present. If not he could have called him in his defense. They are sworn to uphold the constitution and by law made them stop. If in fact they had no search warrant or reason for arrest. It just amazes me how this crap happens. But then again this is the new America land of the sheep. :(

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whats the source? i would like to read into this some more and see/find the facts more in depth please sounds interesting




my bad

http://reason.com/archives/2010/03/16/pre-crime-policing
http://www.theagitator.com/2010/03/16/pre-crime-policing/

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WOW!!! Knock,knock. whos there?The cops ,you need a physc evaluation. Bye kids be back soon. Hello neighbors dont worry just routine thing. You may be next of course thats ok with you also right? Thanx for looking out for me officer. hmmm hmmm hm. Oh by the way we want all your guns until we see what the Doc says. Excuse me kids. Hello Mrs. just gonna ramsack the house here for guns. The only ones needing the physc will be the kids. Just amazing. Great post. I have never heard about this type of law b4.

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WOW!!! Knock,knock. whos there?The cops ,you need a physc evaluation. Bye kids be back soon. Hello neighbors dont worry just routine thing. You may be next of course thats ok with you also right? Thanx for looking out for me officer. hmmm hmmm hm. Oh by the way we want all your guns until we see what the Doc says. Excuse me kids. Hello Mrs. just gonna ramsack the house here for guns. The only ones needing the physc will be the kids. Just amazing. Great post. I have never heard about this type of law b4.

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AND THIS SHIT IS ALL JUST IN OUR MINDS. :headscratch:

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They can't be watching everything. If they were there would be no unemployment because we would all have jobs spying on each other. There is way too much information for any agency, country or computer to keep track of. The best they could do is program some keywords to look out for and let that be that.

Oh and never forget that the government and military can have the best and most powerful computers on planet earth but there will always be people far more clever who can bypass everything thrown at them.

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Damn, thnx for the links I will have to really read into this .What I have seen so far does not look good for the average population. Only a matter of time before they try to use some of these orders. I will have to pray for all at that time. I can only assume it will get ugly. At least for those whom are not sheep.

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