Proof of Reincarnation

Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:16 pm » by **Spinevane27**

The only way people are really going to believe in reincarnation is when they start to remember for themselves.

I have some of my memories before birth. Karma isn't like people think. No you don't reincarnate into animals, they have their own soul levels which are different from humans.
Karma isn't set in stone, you in your increased awareness see your faults more clearly and choose to experience some things, there are accidents that are not planned, in order to rectify your own guilt.

As far as not going into the light, this could be a prison(you can doubt everything its your free will), its more of a school that people forget, I don't remember everything about what I did then.
When you die and after the light you will see Jesus if your Christian, Bhudda if your Bhuddists, Mohammed if your Muslim, its to make you more comfortable.
In human form we always want to label everything, if everything is one with source and source is one with everything, then it needs no label, it just is.
But we have had more of an awareness beyond what we are capable of in human form, and we chose to be here and forget.
As far as why? It could be as simple as having an experience in separation, because being one with everything, knowing seeing and doing everything could be boring right?
Why do people play video games when they can live real life?

If you want to flame me and ask for proof, then how about you take your own risks and choose to research something your more comfortable with. I'm not going to bother to prove anything. But if you have questions maybe it might help me make out more of what I can remember as well as help you.

Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:20 pm » by **Genial**

I think if you're gonna believe in reincarnation, you have to believe ALL creatures reincarnate. You can single it out for humans alone.

Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:24 pm » by **Spinevane27**

genial wrote:I think if you're gonna believe in reincarnation, you have to believe ALL creatures reincarnate. You can single it out for humans alone.

I think you meant "can't"
But I didn't say they didn't reincarnate. Just not like humans, we have a more... sentient consciousness.

Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:25 pm » by **Samuelthemule**

spinevane27 wrote:The only way people are really going to believe in reincarnation is when they start to remember for themselves.

I have some of my memories before birth. Karma isn't like people think. No you don't reincarnate into animals, they have their own soul levels which are different from humans.
Karma isn't set in stone, you in your increased awareness see your faults more clearly and choose to experience some things, there are accidents that are not planned, in order to rectify your own guilt.

As far as not going into the light, this could be a prison(you can doubt everything its your free will), its more of a school that people forget, I don't remember everything about what I did then.
When you die and after the light you will see Jesus if your Christian, Bhudda if your Bhuddists, Mohammed if your Muslim, its to make you more comfortable.
In human form we always want to label everything, if everything is one with source and source is one with everything, then it needs no label, it just is.
But we have had more of an awareness beyond what we are capable of in human form, and we chose to be here and forget.
As far as why? It could be as simple as having an experience in separation, because being one with everything, knowing seeing and doing everything could be boring right?
Why do people play video games when they can live real life?

If you want to flame me and ask for proof, then how about you take your own risks and choose to research something your more comfortable with. I'm not going to bother to prove anything. But if you have questions maybe it might help me make out more of what I can remember as well as help you.

Good post, hope you stick around and offer your insight on other things. :flop:

It's rare that people state they actually -believe- in anything, it seems to be about knocking what other people are doing, which gets depressing and boring, really fast.

Yeah, as for proving things you believe in, it's like kafka said: if you could prove what you believe in, it would not be belief.

And yeah, sure, animals can reincarnate, but into animals :p

Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:32 pm » by **Wakemeup**

This is interesting and kind of on topic :flop:

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Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:46 pm » by **Mikemess**

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research35.html

Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:50 pm » by **Daemonfoe**

samuelthemule wrote:E.g, reincarnation can't be true because there are so many more people alive now than in history. i.e where do 'more' souls come from?
Possible explanation/way over/out of paradox: a great deal of souls which were active during the past have incarnated now, as this is a pivotal moment in history during which much more is possible than has been recently.
Also, the concept of the 'oversoul' or higher self, which can split itself and send multiple envoys at once, resolves this... to an extent.

Earth is not the only planet in the universe.

Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:52 pm » by **Daemonfoe**

spinevane27 wrote:
genial wrote:I think if you're gonna believe in reincarnation, you have to believe ALL creatures reincarnate. You can single it out for humans alone.

I think you meant "can't"
But I didn't say they didn't reincarnate. Just not like humans, we have a more... sentient consciousness.

Animals can sense things that humans can't... Maybe we're on a lower level.

Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:04 pm » by **Samuelthemule**

daemonfoe wrote:
spinevane27 wrote:
genial wrote:I think if you're gonna believe in reincarnation, you have to believe ALL creatures reincarnate. You can single it out for humans alone.

I think you meant "can't"
But I didn't say they didn't reincarnate. Just not like humans, we have a more... sentient consciousness.

Animals can sense things that humans can't... Maybe we're on a lower level.

good point, i suspect this with dolphins and whales quite strongly

re: earth is not the only planet... true true, but that seems to me to be outside of where you need to go, logically. why use an unknown to explain another unknown, when you can use a known, kind of thing.

Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:14 pm » by **Spinevane27**

Thanks samuel
It makes a difference when people don't bash someone.
I've lived most of my life without much thought to the spiritual and then one day I started finding things one after the next, I had three memories that I always had that weren't normal and that kept me curious to find out more.
I don't want to take my... solace for granted and not try to help someone else explore who they and we are. I think that if what I can say can help just 1 out of 100 then its worth it.

But my memories also tie into this 2012 stuff, which isn't the end of course. The people coming to earth to help it is quite true. I don't even think of aliens as aliens but as beings no different than I.

Your Souls Plan by Robert Schwartz is very helpful.
Nanci Danison is pretty spot on in her NDE.
The Ra Material is helpful as well.
Ken Carey's work is one I'm very interested in reading when I get the chance.

A lot of things are helpful if you find the correct ones, because of the things I've seen I am able to kind of sift through things better because I have my own knowledge. Just take most things with a grain of salt. Might be best to focus on one thing your most comfortable with and keep other possibilities in the back of your mind.
But things are changing, for the better, thats for sure.

We not on a lower level(as far as I'm aware of), animals are closer to nature, its part of the consciousness they have, we she moves they move so to speak. As far as higher or lower though, everything is important, if you go far enough to where everything is one then there isn't anything thats higher/lower just a different point of view.