Revealed: The Chase Campaign plan to take down US capitalism

Wed May 18, 2011 10:19 am » by **Phaeton**

rydher wrote:Revealed The Left's Economic Terrorism Playbook: The Chase Campaign for a Coalition of Unions, Community Groups, Lawmakers and Students to Take Down US Capitalism and Redistribute Wealth & Power

The person speaking is Steven Leaner (spelling?). The people in attendance aren't nobodies. More details to come...

Credit to The Blaze: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/revealed-the-lefts-economic-terrorism-playbook-the-chase-campaign-for-a-coalition-of-unions-community-groups-lawmakers-and-students-to-take-down-us-capitalism-and-redistribute-wealth-power/

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Oh yes, what criminals! These people want to re act against the banking consortia.
The banking consortia who are, for all intents and purposes, the main player in the financial collapse. The same banking consortia who facilitated the pyramid scam Madoff got publically hanged over. Thesame banking consortia who were and are responsible for manipulative tactics played out through the criminal IMF; forcing a ruleset on the country that lends a sum of money. This ruleset will unequivocally bring said nation to its knees [economically, financially]. Privatisation [read: giving away public property to corporations] and inflation are standard guidelines given to such countries.

It really amazes me some of you go at the warpath against these 'socialists' [couldnt find any 'fact' that would confirm this btw] and defend the very entities who we all know are rife with the elitist state of mind we all love to hate. The very element which has been 'saved' at the expense of millions of people, while doing exactly thesame as before the crisis.

The power of these bankers is so great that they tell the US oval office what or what not to do. Geitner is telling Obama what to do, make no mistake about it. Geitner is the right hand of 'financial King' Ben Burnanke, who will be in office until 2014.

Amazing how you defend the school of thought taught by Alan Greenspan & Co.. One of the clearest, most well defined enemies of the working man, of 'the civilian', 'the People'. They dispize people like us. I can say this because they and theirs have been robbing us since we were born [especially if youre an American].

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Your and my government are defending the rights of corporations, multinationals.. Not Civilians. Yet, you turn around and agressively defend the present status quo and the criminals based on the notion the people going against them are 'communists'. :ohno:

I will tell ya'll this; if the present trend is continued; you will eventually wake up in a world where corporations rule [explicitly]. Where the little man will get poorer and poorer, and big business will get richer and richer. One will see more and more 'fenced communities' of the rich, with their own police apparatus goping against anyone who dares to enter the compound.
10% unimaginable rich folk, 90% unimaginable poor folk. Hope you communist hunters get a warm fuzzy feeling with this scenario.

People need to act themselves, 'their government' is not their government.

Wed May 18, 2011 10:57 am » by **Phaeton**

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Wed May 18, 2011 1:59 pm » by **Rydher**

WTF are you ranting about? I'm not defending the banks, especially the like of JP Morgan. I'm showing the communists, marxists, globalists, etc are going about this not only in the morally wrong way but legally wrong. The government + big banks = the same problem. Yet, the government and their lackey's try to turn the public against them. Why? Here is one of my theories, post563650.html?hilit=crazy%20train#p563650.

Not ot mention that it doesn't matter if JP Morgan collapses or the US economy collapses. Those at the stop will still have their money and power. It's the useful idiots under them getting used and will end up being the losers along with everyone else.

Wed May 18, 2011 4:52 pm » by **Phaeton**

rydher wrote:WTF are you ranting about? I'm not defending the banks, especially the like of JP Morgan. I'm showing the communists, marxists, globalists, etc are going about this not only in the morally wrong way but legally wrong. The government + big banks = the same problem. Yet, the government and their lackey's try to turn the public against them. Why? Here is one of my theories, post563650.html?hilit=crazy%20train#p563650.

Not ot mention that it doesn't matter if JP Morgan collapses or the US economy collapses. Those at the stop will still have their money and power. It's the useful idiots under them getting used and will end up being the losers along with everyone else.

Could you please tell me;

A on what basis you state these people are 'communists, marxists, globalists, etc'?
B what would you propose these people do instead, seeing as you see it as legally and morally wrong?

Checked out that link you provided.. I completely agree with what you say there, very logical, plausible theory. Added it below because I think as many people as possible should read that. I presume you connect the liquidity of the targeted banks with the worth of US bonds? Otherwise I cannot see why you would disagree with forced redistribution of wealth from banks to US civilians.

Especially seeing the fact these same civilians were the ones who payed unbelievable sums of cash to the aformentioned banks [which made the national debt jump; pushing right for your theory's effect].. Who are making a killing again [ie derivatives] and generally acting in thesame way as before the calamity [excessive bonus policy etc].

So yeah, Im all for organising against these criminals.. We cannot depend on our government or any other institution, that much is cristal clear. If you want something done, you'll have to do it yourself. Action is needed. Curious to your solution though.

Rydher's theory:

I heard an interesting theory today and I've been thinking about it as well as expanded it. If you want to come on the crazy train, hear me out here.

Just recently the IMF told the world not to worry about Greece and their ability to pay back all this money other countries are giving them. You can look for yourself about the horrid condition Greece is in and the abysmal outlook for it's future. I can't find one person or group that says the finacial situation in Greece will get better. The S&P just lowered Greece's long- and short-term ratings on Greece to B and C, respectively. The ratings remain on credit watch with negative implications. Also, Moody’s Investors Service placed Greece’s B1 local and foreign currency government bond ratings under review for possible downgrade and warned that a multi-notch action is possible.

So what makes the IMF outlook on Greece's ability to pay it's debt so rosy?
"Greek guarantees could be gained from state-owned companies, such as telecommunications companies, real estate businesses and land property. The International Monetary Fund estimates that Greek state property is worth over 280 billion euros." - http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2011/05/ ... 90518.html

So what does that mean exactly? I don't know to be honest. No one expects Greece to climb out of their financial situation much less being able to repay their loans. So if Greece can't repay their loan, the IMF takes their land? Right? If you look into the IMF you see it's people that want a one world government, NWO, open society, etc.

Now what really stands in the way of a one world government? In my opinion, it's the US. People like George Soros agree (which has connections to the Rothschild's, IE. IMF, right?). Look at America, it's going down the same path as Greece. What happens when no one will buy our bonds (loan the US money) anymore? We are up shits creek. Well the IMF can loan the US money, using the same reasoning as they are for Greece. We have assets, our land. But wait, don't the citizens own a lot of the land? Well, lets take a look.

This is land the government owns. For a full picture go here: http://www.nationalatlas.gov/printable/ ... lands3.pdf

Now, that's a lot of land but still. Not enough. Who holds people's mortgages? Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Those two 'private', yet government supported and backed companies own 90% of America's mortgages. (http://www.npr.org/2011/02/15/133777142 ... Minorities) Fannie Mae lost 13 Billion Dollars in the 1st quarter alone (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fannie ... 2010-05-10), yet no one seems to care. So imagine, if you will, that the US Economy doesn't get better and/or the US doesn't really change how much it sinks itself into debt. More and more people can't pay their mortgage, the foreclosure rate continues to go up. Who gets your property? The government. So now look how much land the government actually owns and can be used to show the IMF and the world that it does have the assets to borrow more money. To sum this up, we can't pay it back. The IMF collects and the US is legally owned by the IMF.

Wed May 18, 2011 5:17 pm » by **Rydher**

Phaeton, I won't get a chance to make a proper reply at the moment. But I wanted to apologize for my harsh reply. It just gets very tiresome when people on this site, that don't agree with you, twist your words then base an entire reply on something I didn't even say.

My apologies. :cheers:

Very quickly though since you can easily find the connections yourself.

A on what basis you state these people are 'communists, marxists, globalists, etc'?

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http://www.wi.aflcio.org/statefed/index.cfm?action=article&articleID=2c28b9a1-cd6a-4080-9fb5-e9fd81314a77

Wed May 18, 2011 5:45 pm » by **Boondox681**

Oh yes, what criminals! These people want to re act against the banking consortia.

once again....
have you ever heard of personal responsibility?
i know these motherfuckers haven't.
we've all had bad breaks and hardship in our lives.
deal with it.fuckin' commie pussies.

Wed May 18, 2011 6:57 pm » by **Svaha**

There are still some rich countries in the EC, but that won't be for long, the collapse is predictable, will happen one way or the other because it's build in the monetary system with it's increasing virtual money.
Who gains from this? Not the communist, not the capitalist, not the politician, but the bancs, because every virtual dollar / euro makes them richer and you all poorer.
The total (virtual) debt of (almost) all countries is more than ever can be paid back, so more and more money has to be printed to shift this debt around untill all countries default (exept Switzerland of course).
When you can get your mind around this, you can sleep well because the debt is as virtual as the money, you owe nothing to nobody.

Wed May 18, 2011 9:53 pm » by **Illuminated**

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I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Author: Thomas Jefferson, Source: letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin, 1802

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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

sunday Marcus Tullius Cicero quotes (Ancient Roman Lawyer, Writer, Scholar, Orator and Statesman, 106 BC-43 BC)

again: many treasonous traitors, in positions of power - violating their oathes, must be tried according to the rule of law & hung by the neck till they are DEAD!

:hiho:

Wed May 18, 2011 10:46 pm » by **Rydher**

Mr. Jefferson is just as right then as he is now. The problem, as I see it is the people are being used and divided to further the globalist agenda. Keep in mind there isn't just one group of people that envision and desire a one world type government. There are many different factions but all want the same thing, just with different end games. For now they are working together akin to the USSR and Germany before WWII. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, kind of thing. You can hate the US for whatever reason but the US is THE obstacle for a 'unified' world government.

I'm sure you're saying. Now Rydher, what does all that have to do with the banks? Simple really, while not all on the same side. The world banks, corporations, etc are working together with the controlling faction in the US government that want a global community. Take a look at all the rhetoric coming out from the US government about how wall street is evil, big business is bad, banks are predatory lending, etc. Who is still getting all the money? The select few at the top of these organizations. They don't care if the citizens turn on their businesses or default on their loans. Those at the top still are rich and hold positions of power. Look at the members of federal government. Most have worked as CEO's for JP Morgan, Bank of America, GE, Chase, and the list goes on. So the government and it's lackey's (IE, Community Organizations, Political Organizations, Unions, etc.) rally the troops and cause a lot of commotion and perception against the very people the government is in bed with. Everyone wins, except us. Those at the very top get richer, while the government actually gets citizen support to step in and regulate these companies and industries. Hence growing it's size and power.

So this may seem like I'm sticking up for big business and banks. I'm really not, but they aren't the problem. It's the elite at the top. Don't be a 'useful idiot'.

Useful idiot: Term invented in Soviet Russia to describe people who blindly supported the likes of Lenin and Stalin while they committed atrocity after atrocity.

Thu May 19, 2011 4:01 pm » by **Phaeton**

rydher wrote:Mr. Jefferson is just as right then as he is now. The problem, as I see it is the people are being used and divided to further the globalist agenda. Keep in mind there isn't just one group of people that envision and desire a one world type government. There are many different factions but all want the same thing, just with different end games. For now they are working together akin to the USSR and Germany before WWII. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, kind of thing. You can hate the US for whatever reason but the US is THE obstacle for a 'unified' world government.

I'm sure you're saying. Now Rydher, what does all that have to do with the banks? Simple really, while not all on the same side. The world banks, corporations, etc are working together with the controlling faction in the US government that want a global community. Take a look at all the rhetoric coming out from the US government about how wall street is evil, big business is bad, banks are predatory lending, etc. Who is still getting all the money? The select few at the top of these organizations. They don't care if the citizens turn on their businesses or default on their loans. Those at the top still are rich and hold positions of power. Look at the members of federal government. Most have worked as CEO's for JP Morgan, Bank of America, GE, Chase, and the list goes on. So the government and it's lackey's (IE, Community Organizations, Political Organizations, Unions, etc.) rally the troops and cause a lot of commotion and perception against the very people the government is in bed with. Everyone wins, except us. Those at the very top get richer, while the government actually gets citizen support to step in and regulate these companies and industries. Hence growing it's size and power.

So this may seem like I'm sticking up for big business and banks. I'm really not, but they aren't the problem. It's the elite at the top. Don't be a 'useful idiot'.

Useful idiot: Term invented in Soviet Russia to describe people who blindly supported the likes of Lenin and Stalin while they committed atrocity after atrocity.

Indeed, but we could turn that around could we not? Who is the 'usefull idiot'? The ones screaming bloody murder against the banks, or the ones screaming 'bloody communists' at the ones attacking the banks? This works both ways.

As I get your point regarding the fact the banks are just as much tools as the government is, the banks are a primary vehicle in which they are attacking the US, and us generally.

Im also quite curious as to your solution, your thoughts on the actions that should be taken. Given you labelled the proposed actions as morally and legally wrong.