Right to Travel or privilege to drive?

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PostThu Feb 02, 2012 10:26 pm » by Debunkerace


Do you need to ask for permission to travel as a free man or woman?

Can anybody tell you what to do or not to do as long as you don't harm or injure anybody else, Offcourse Not, listen to this!

You don't need a license to travel in any way you might chose, be it a car, a bike, a boat, an airplane, or what ever.

If you get a license, you do it of your own free will, and then, and not until then, the rules and regulations are inacted, and the police can regulate and citate.

If you don't get a license, you are free to travel anywhere at anytime without interference in any state or country in the world, and the police can't give you a ticket, and they can't win a case against you in court.

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I especially enjoyed the part about suing the President and that the secret service came to his door to beg for forgiveness.

You see, the trick here is that the government puts the cart before the horse and you think you have to get a license because it's the law, but you don't, simply because there is no law until you voluntarily signs the contract. and then there are act's.



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PostFri Feb 03, 2012 1:11 am » by Hansom


In the UK you are required by "law" to have a license to watch TV.
And to use a rod and line to fish.
However no license is required to purchase or use incendiary devices (fireworks)
Now of the three activities mentioned, which has the greater potential to cause serious and immediate harm ?
This alone tells me the law makers care not one bit about our well being.
The statutes are made primarily to gain revenue, not protect.
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PostFri Feb 03, 2012 1:50 am » by Debunkerace


hansom wrote:In the UK you are required by "law" to have a license to watch TV.
And to use a rod and line to fish.
However no license is required to purchase or use incendiary devices (fireworks)
Now of the three activities mentioned, which has the greater potential to cause serious and immediate harm ?
This alone tells me the law makers care not one bit about our well being.
The statutes are made primarily to gain revenue, not protect.



Wrong mate, you obviously haven't read the "Law".

You are regurgitating the lies you have been brought up on.

There are no Law that requires you to have a license for your TV, or fishing, or anything else.

Seriously, do some research and you will find that you and the rest of the population are being fooled.

Figure out what citizen really mean, learn the difference between Man and Person, you'll be amazed!
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PostFri Feb 03, 2012 2:00 am » by Jet17


I do believe that if you don't have a license you get thrown in jail.

common law may state otherwise, but the court will find you in contempt of the law.
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PostFri Feb 03, 2012 2:06 am » by alivengood1234


I guess this is as good of place as any to tell my story. I am currently facing a lifetime suspension of my license and I will probably do time in prison. My sentencing is set for mid-March of this year. I will now backtrack and explain how I got to this point.

When I was younger, and of course as the saying goes, dumber, I received my share of tickets. Most were for things like seat belt violations, speeding, and other minor traffic infractions. After incurring a few of these, I became a target of what I consider harassment from a few local law enforcement officers. I would sometimes get pulled over just because they recognized me. This would happen as often as four or five times in a month. Sometimes they would toss my belongings without consent to search and let me go on my way. Other times I would receive tickets for things like having a dirty licence plate, chipped windshield, or dull signal lighting. Eventually, I was suspended.
I have to say that I live in a somewhat rural area, and have no access to mass transit, or even a local cab company. If I wanted to stay employed and continue to support myself and my family, I had to continue to drive myself to and from work. This lead to more legal troubles, and my first jail sentence. I knew what I was doing was wrong, but I chose to earn my own living over living off of the state. With that bit of a wake-up call, I went as legal as I could and purchased a scooter to get around. I had to find a new job to support myself, and this was the only way to do it without risk of getting in further legal trouble. I worked many years driving myself thru the rain, snow, and other nasty conditions just to make a living. If anybody knows anything about 50cc scooters, they don't survive thousands of miles of driving each year. I was replacing them almost every year. As I could no longer justify spending that much money every year just to have a vehicle, I researched it a bit, and discovered that older 80cc scooters were well known to be much more durable. I purchased one, insured it, and began driving it to work daily. This worked just fine for almost a year. One day on my way home, I was stopped by an officer who just happened to recognize my scooter as an 80cc because he owned one himself. I was promptly taken to jail as a habitual traffic violator. And that brings me back to the start of my story.

I have never drove uninsured. I have never been in an accident that was my fault. I am a simple family man trying to make a living. I now have trouble finding work because of felony driving offenses, and for not having a license. I cannot own a gun. I cannot easily go back to college as the nearest one is many miles away. (I feel a lot of online colleges are a joke, and I learn better in a classroom setting) Maybe it's just me, but I feel there is something very wrong with the system. My neighbor has a handfull of OWI's, has no ambition in life, more accidents than I can count, and is an all around asshole, but is still allowed to "legally" drive.

This is not meant to be a sob story, and I'm not looking for any kind of sympathy. I just wanted to vent a bit. This looked like a good place to do that.

Thank you for reading.

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PostFri Feb 03, 2012 2:14 am » by Debunkerace


alivengood1234 wrote:I guess this is as good of place as any to tell my story. I am currently facing a lifetime suspension of my license and I will probably do time in prison. My sentencing is set for mid-March of this year. I will now backtrack and explain how I got to this point.

When I was younger, and of course as the saying goes, dumber, I received my share of tickets. Most were for things like seat belt violations, speeding, and other minor traffic infractions. After incurring a few of these, I became a target of what I consider harassment from a few local law enforcement officers. I would sometimes get pulled over just because they recognized me. This would happen as often as four or five times in a month. Sometimes they would toss my belongings without consent to search and let me go on my way. Other times I would receive tickets for things like having a dirty licence plate, chipped windshield, or dull signal lighting. Eventually, I was suspended.
I have to say that I live in a somewhat rural area, and have no access to mass transit, or even a local cab company. If I wanted to stay employed and continue to support myself and my family, I had to continue to drive myself to and from work. This lead to more legal troubles, and my first jail sentence. I knew what I was doing was wrong, but I chose to earn my own living over living off of the state. With that bit of a wake-up call, I went as legal as I could and purchased a scooter to get around. I had to find a new job to support myself, and this was the only way to do it without risk of getting in further legal trouble. I worked many years driving myself thru the rain, snow, and other nasty conditions just to make a living. If anybody knows anything about 50cc scooters, they don't survive thousands of miles of driving each year. I was replacing them almost every year. As I could no longer justify spending that much money every year just to have a vehicle, I researched it a bit, and discovered that older 80cc scooters were well known to be much more durable. I purchased one, insured it, and began driving it to work daily. This worked just fine for almost a year. One day on my way home, I was stopped by an officer who just happened to recognize my scooter as an 80cc because he owned one himself. I was promptly taken to jail as a habitual traffic violator. And that brings me back to the start of my story.

I have never drove uninsured. I have never been in an accident that was my fault. I am a simple family man trying to make a living. I now have trouble finding work because of felony driving offenses, and for not having a license. I cannot own a gun. I cannot easily go back to college as the nearest one is many miles away. (I feel a lot of online colleges are a joke, and I learn better in a classroom setting) Maybe it's just me, but I feel there is something very wrong with the system. My neighbor has a handfull of OWI's, has no ambition in life, more accidents than I can count, and is an all around asshole, but is still allowed to "legally" drive.

This is not meant to be a sob story, and I'm not looking for any kind of sympathy. I just wanted to vent a bit. This looked like a good place to do that.

Thank you for reading.



Sad story mate, even more sad that the police are fraudsters, the government are liars, and you paid for it, as does everyone else.

Watch the vids in the OP, do more research, and you will find that they fucked you all along because you don't know how to defend yourself, that's how it works, government lies, and we pay out of ignorance, and they know it.
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PostFri Feb 03, 2012 2:14 am » by Domdabears


Weird, I was just talking about this with drjones.

Here in Illinois, the rule goes, it is a privilege to drive, not a right.
The reason they call it a privilege and not a right, is because they're able to take away your privilege if you break the driving laws.

Now, you have to do a lot of bad stuff repeatedly to get your license taken away forever. If that happens, then you obvious are a fucked up individual and deserve it.
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PostFri Feb 03, 2012 2:18 am » by Debunkerace


jet17 wrote:I do believe that if you don't have a license you get thrown in jail.

common law may state otherwise, but the court will find you in contempt of the law.



That what it's all about, Beliefs, faith does remove mountains, that's how governments work.

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PostFri Feb 03, 2012 2:20 am » by Debunkerace


domdabears wrote:Weird, I was just talking about this with drjones.

Here in Illinois, the rule goes, it is a privilege to drive, not a right.
The reason they call it a privilege and not a right, is because they're able to take away your privilege if you break the driving laws.

Now, you have to do a lot of bad stuff repeatedly to get your license taken away forever. If that happens, then you obvious are a fucked up individual and deserve it.


Wrong, there are no Law's, watch the vids in the OP and learn.
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PostFri Feb 03, 2012 2:22 am » by Mrmcnuggets


no one is stopping you from walking to the ocean, and swimming to another continent, or taking a kayak, bicycle, segway, skate board ect.

If you use a 2000lb+ motor vehicle and do not know how to control it, you have more of a chance of killing any one other than your self.
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