Sacred sex, visualization and energy work

Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:06 am » by **Samuelthemule**

Dear disclose forum,

i know most of you are male, and suffer from pornography addiction (which you of course don't admit is an addiction, but actually, well, it is). Let me ask you something rather personal: Do you even enjoy masturbating anymore?

if not, how about taking a break from it and training your willpower, as well as noticing the improvement in your quality of life (and relationships, especially with women).

never mind that watching pornography is directly supporting an industry which robs millions of people of their proper perspective on what should be the most awesome and intimate act available to us humans... you are really just making yourself miserable and lonely in the long term.

So: I have another suggestion for you! a different way: research this sacred sex stuff, it's THA BOMB! LoL!

no, really, it's good. In fact, I've developed my ability to lucid dream, visualize and feel subtle shifts of energy within myself over the past year, due to my attempts at remaining firm in my decision not to give in to temptation. (i have to admit, i too was addicted to porn and masturbation, and am glad to be over that phase).

Basically, the way monks and so on do it is all WRONG! You can't just stop being sexually active, think of it like an irigation system: the water has to flow somewhere, and if it doesn't it will build up and burst out. But what the hell else can you use this energy for?
well, plato hinted at it, with his whole catch phrase "the platonic relationship": use it for mental exchange, artistic taste cultivation, sports and so on.
this does NOT mean you have to stop having sex if you are in a couple, but there is a thing called "white tantra" which you may be interested in (isn't it just fucking depressing (lol a pun), how the only sex culture contribution the modern west has come up with is BDSM?

yeah...

If you are very addicted: try this: notice how your energy sinks immediately when you "spend" yourself... now think about this: can't you use this energy to do something positive for yourself? Go on, really, all it takes is that one decision. Keep track of your big picture, don't accept the tempting whispers of "go on, it's all meaningless and everyone else is doing it anyway"...try it for at least a month, i promise you'll be amazed at the results

you'll have to trust your gut on this, and be fiercely honest.
also, you can't listen to doctors on this, as they will tell you, yes, masturbate all you want, sure, once or three times a day every now and then is fine.

Actually, you are wasting precious energy, you could be using on defeating the nwo

or at least developing yourself.

so here are some links and a quote to end this rambling thread, and i would be happy to discuss things. seriously though, do yourself a favour and read this stuff, all of it!

http://whale.to/a/howe_b1.html

http://sacred-sex.org/ (ok this sites first impression on you might be terrible, but bear with it, has some good info).

"Would you like to liberate yourself from the lower realms of life?
Would you like to save the world from degradation and destruction it seems destined for?
Then step away from shallow mass movements and quietly go to work on your own...
Truly, the greatest gift you have to give is that of your own self-transformation"
Lao Tzu

founder of formalised taoism and sustainer of eastern alchemy.

Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:24 am » by **Boondox681**

i know most of you are male, and suffer from pornography addiction (which you of course don't admit is an addiction, but actually, well, it is). Let me ask you something rather personal: Do you even enjoy masturbating anymore?

1.i'm addicted to a bunch of shit.
2.Do you even enjoy masturbating anymore?
did Ike like to punch Tina in the face?

peace

Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:31 am » by **Samuelthemule**

boondox681 wrote:
i know most of you are male, and suffer from pornography addiction (which you of course don't admit is an addiction, but actually, well, it is). Let me ask you something rather personal: Do you even enjoy masturbating anymore?

1.i'm addicted to a bunch of shit.
2.Do you even enjoy masturbating anymore?
did Ike like to punch Tina in the face?

peace

lol, good deflection, but deep down you are a little sad, how can you be anything else?
not saying I'm not, but you know, this thread's about help so here's a suggestion:

try masturbating without porn to begin with (or rather: with your imagination) and making it last 20 minutes or longer. Read and use the 'locking' methods mentioned in 'secrets of sexual ecstasy'
You can actually have sex for as long as you want using these methods, seriously, 6 to 12 hours nonstop if you have the patience and willpower to just keep using effective techniques.

Once you see how great this is, how much better it is than what you are currently doing, think about why i would ever suggest a thing like not doing that. Or actually, I'll just tell you, as who the hell can remember so much stuff anyway?

Perpetual Heart orgasm & creative visual trips better than anything drugs can provide, better than sex. Yep. Not making it up.

porn may accelerate the rate at which you "reach climax", but the longer the journey to the top of the mountain, the greater the view is once you reach it ^_^

Be well

:sunny:

P.s i really like and agree with your signature, did you know that human comes from sanskrit, and hu means great spirit or divine? and man as far as i know, means mental or mind. SO that makes us (potentially) the creature with the mind which can serve the divine (instead of just our belly, instincts, lusts or fears, which we are now).

Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:42 am » by **Boondox681**

your just not getting it.
i do it for the same reason i do anything else...
i enjoy it.
to deny anything you enjoy or to lie to yourself about it is ungodly.

if god didn't want man to jack off,he would have made our arms shorter.
are you questioning the perfection of god?

Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:44 am » by **Tertiusgaudens**

When I was 10, my mother found me masturbating in my room.

She immediatly went with me to the doc asking him to give some healing pills.

Actually, it came that he gave me a bromium medication (later I knew that this was, what we call in Germany "Hangolin" (from "hang", you know what I mean).

Not only that - she run with me to a psychiatric doc, and he gave me a strong tranquilizer (remember, I was 10).

Now the first doc must have heard of this and got mad on my mother (he was a friend of the family). But my mother insisted in taking those tranquilizer pills.

When I was 15, I heard religious people talking about nagative effects of masturbating on brain and spine (of course I was a little unusual at 15, I was at this age deeply in calculus in a math class).

Funny enough, my libido didn`t stop at all. And over the years I lost all fears on that jacking off stuff.

Honestly, now that I become 50 I see not the smallest problem with masturbating and watching porn. So why sacred sex? Sex is sex, noting below and nothing beyond. Why such kind of sublimation? For which reason? I don`t see any, really.

The real problem seems to me a still continuing stigmatisation of sex. When I got divorced I lived all my fantasies, I had sex as much as I could get.

I can promise you, that you get more quiet the older you get. Your mind, and also your noodle are getting a little softer, if you are not a complete asshole in life.

You feel no special need for porn, and you shake Aaron`s rod only once in a while. So what? Regrets? No!

So speaking for me - your advice made me long loughing...but it was cool!

Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:51 am » by **Samuelthemule**

hey tertius, nice to see you are still on this site too.

i can see both of you haven't bothered looking into the links, or even really reading my post, which makes me a little sad.

as for "why all this...", because there is so much more you can do with this energy, than just "shake it".
that's why. or you can just keep watching porn and or having mediocre sex/ and or masturbation.

don't really feel like saying anything else apart from this: please have the courtesy to actually read what people write before replying ;)

if you can't be bothered to re-read or investigate the links, answer a question?
what is the longest amount of time you stopped masturbating for,
and or, how long was the longest sex session you had? (for instance, 1 hour, 5 hours, one day (doable if you know about tantra)) ;)

no compulsion.

as for your childhood story, sounds pretty warped. and yeah, monks, clerics and priests in the west really have no clue what they're talking about as far as sex is concerned nearly all of the time. which is why they have weird dis-eases/ mental disturbances like pedophilia, fetishes, self-flagellation/esphixiation for arousal and so on. not healthy, and also not what i am recommendnig or talking about.

edit: ok, actually this is the most important point to refute: "Sex is sex, noting below and nothing beyond"

sex can be great, or lousy. extremely lousy, or extremely great. there are simple instructions on how to make it not lousy. this goes against what you say, and simply points out that you are, in this case, wrong. sex is not just sex. sex can be boring, or sex can be the most interesting thing in all existence. this is why i made the post.

as for losing brain fluid and so on, yeah, pretty funny eh? but i do believe we all have energy which is not necessarily measured by science yet, which is used by doing all sorts of different activities, and also gained by others (meditation and sleep for instance).
you need a certain level of sensetivity to feel this, which comes with practice.

Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:56 am » by **Boondox681**

like i said,i'm addicted to a lot of shit.
caffeine,sugar,salt,pussy,spankin' the monk.....it's all the same.
it has nothing to do with self control or compulsion.
i do not need to exert any willpower to keep from lookin' at hairy cocks.

Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:58 am » by **Tertiusgaudens**

...spanking the monk sounds funny, hahahaha. I like that idea...

Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:59 am » by **99socks**

Sam, I'm confused...

At first you seem to imply that sexual release is "energy draining" and somehow "mediocre,' especially in the context of the base quickies men give themselves, yet you are advocating "spiritual sex" instead, because somehow it is "better"... based on the idea that what, it's deeper and "lasts longer"? That actually doesn't seem so spiritual to me. :headscratch:

Ever watch Seinfeld? George Costanza has a revelation of his own when he decides to go celibate.

Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:01 am » by **Tertiusgaudens**

Sock, do you know, what spanking the monk is?