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PostSun Nov 20, 2011 7:35 pm » by Ishumble


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Matthew 24:22 (NKJV) AKA written word of God
22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

Scientific proof of God's fulfilling his word

Japan Earthquake Shortened Days, Increased Earth's Wobble
Richard A. Lovett for National Geographic News Published March 15, 2011(excerpt)

The magnitude 9.0 earthquake that struck Japan last Friday was powerful enough to shorten Earth's day by 1.8 microseconds and throw an extra 6.7 inches (17 centimeters) into the planet's wobble, scientists say.

Source:http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/03/110316-japan-earthquake-shortened-days-earth-axis-spin-nasa-science/
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More proof of God fulfilling his word

The 2004 Indonesian and 2010 Chilean Earthquakes and Earth's Rotation(both shortened the days by speeding up earth's rotation

Steven Dutch, Natural and Applied Sciences, University of Wisconsin - Green Bay

Source:http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/platetec/rotationqk2004.htm

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PostSun Nov 20, 2011 9:48 pm » by Abdul14


Are Science and Christianity Compatible?

i dunno about Science, but Technology seems very Compatible
check this out :alien51:

The latest 'threat' to Malaysian Muslims: solar-powered talking bibles

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Malaysian politician Hassan Ali, AKA Hasan Ali, the same Islamic supremacist who has been a key supporter of the recent church 'inspection' and Islamic supremacist fest known as 'Himpun'', has exposed another 'trick' of the infidels: solar powered talking bibles. Will the Christian treachery against Muslims never end? From "Hasan Ali: Muslims being converted by solar-powered talking bible", The Malaysian Insider,

KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 17 — Evangelical Christians are using high-tech devices such as solar-powered talking bibles to proselytize to Malay Muslims in Selangor, state lawmaker Datuk Hasan Ali said today.

Hasan, who is in charge of the state’s Islamic affairs portfolio, said the state’s religious authority (Jais) had discovered that Christian missionaries were now spreading their gospel through technologically-advanced means apart from setting up welfare groups providing cash and other financial aid to single mothers and the destitute.

He added that Jais’s research showed Christian evangelists were spreading their faith to young Muslim students in free tuition classes and counselling sessions, besides distributing Christian pamphlets in public places, homes, universities and places that were ostensibly called “community centres” to carry out their evangelical work.

The ex-PAS state commissioner disclosed this in a written reply to a question from Umno-Sungai Burong assemblyman Datuk Mohd Shamsudin Lias.

According to a website called Book of Joe, the palm-sized radio-like device contains all the books in the New and Old Testaments and is fitted with batteries that will run for almost 10 hours before needing to be recharged, whether by the sun, a light bulb or a nine-volt AC adapter. It costs only US$99.95 (RM310).

This latest disclosure, after a controversial August 3 raid by Selangor Islamic authorities on the Damansara Utama Methodist Church (DUMC) in Petaling Jaya, could trigger another Christian-Muslim conflict.

Christian leaders have consistently denied claims that they are attempting to convert Muslims, but relations between the two creeds with roots in the Middle East continue to smoulder in multi-religious, multi-cultural Malaysia where the religion of the federation is Islam as stated in the Federal Constitution.

Hasan said Jais is working to counter Christian proselytism of Muslims by holding sessions to clarify Islamic doctrine and its laws.

The lawmaker said Jais [religious police] is also seeking to strengthen the enforcement of the Non-Islamic Religions (Control of Propagation Amongst Muslims) Enactment 1988 as well as the Syariah Criminal Offences Enactment 1995.

Despite the total Malay-Muslim political control of the Malaysian government, police, courts, military, the media and what-have-you, and a vast gamut of totalitarian laws at their disposal, we find that Muslims can go from all powerful 'sons of the soil' to hapless victims in mere seconds. With no evidence of said 'conspiracies' required (or existing in the first place), any amount of Islamic-sponsored oppression and repression is justified indefinitely.
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PostSun Nov 20, 2011 9:54 pm » by Bigluvin


ishumble wrote:Image

Matthew 24:22 (NKJV) AKA written word of God
22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

Scientific proof of God's fulfilling his word

Japan Earthquake Shortened Days, Increased Earth's Wobble
Richard A. Lovett for National Geographic News Published March 15, 2011(excerpt)

The magnitude 9.0 earthquake that struck Japan last Friday was powerful enough to shorten Earth's day by 1.8 microseconds and throw an extra 6.7 inches (17 centimeters) into the planet's wobble, scientists say.

Source:http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/03/110316-japan-earthquake-shortened-days-earth-axis-spin-nasa-science/
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More proof of God fulfilling his word

The 2004 Indonesian and 2010 Chilean Earthquakes and Earth's Rotation(both shortened the days by speeding up earth's rotation

Steven Dutch, Natural and Applied Sciences, University of Wisconsin - Green Bay

Source:http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/platetec/rotationqk2004.htm


What if it is not the word of God? It was written by man correct? "Inspired" by God? It's no secret that the bible has changed in small ways through the centuries of being copied by scroll writers. If God could create the entire universe and Jesus came to earth, why not give us a bible that was directly from him and not through "inspiration" that just happend to be after the fact? Your post was "inspired" by God no? Does that mean that God manifests himself through your words or do your words just happen to coincide with what your religion believes God would want? Your just looking for some scientific "proof" to support your "faith" which is basically stories that were finally written down centuries after Jesus (who was probably a radical rabbi) lived.

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PostSun Nov 20, 2011 10:05 pm » by Mrmcnuggets


It is fully acceptable to have both God and science. Even God, as a User would be to a computer, needs the code to design his creation and 'run' or 'simulate' the proper functions at the proper moments.

Good read truth, aside from the fact it was an atheist and a christian still a good debate.
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PostSun Nov 20, 2011 10:47 pm » by Crazynutsx


one of the best posts ive seen on here in a while... evolution is complete crap! its just a fairy tail
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PostSun Nov 20, 2011 11:20 pm » by SamueltheLion


some funny & cool replies in this thread,

hey crazynut,
thought you might like "irreducible complexity, this is INCREDIBLE" video on youtube.

@ esoteric, nice description, yeah i agree in a way, except the force flows through us, so it is made personal. the kabbalah is a personal study of the characteristic principles of "god"...

oto & newearthman, always happy to see your replies,
oto, weren't you a satanist/ black magician/ occultist once upon a time?

@ truthdefender, cool thread, thanks for making it, richard dawkins is mentiond on educate-yourself.org think you should look it up.

he knows he is deceiving people methinks, and if he does, he is still deceived and needs prayer.

CHRIST is a FORCE which can work through you, as well as an embodiment and person in jesus.
jesus can give you an "aether hug" because his aura is so huge :)

tell me, what do you think of the threads i made, on alchemy & god?
I'd like to see you comment in them :)

"...it is given to them to know the kingdom of god..."

you obviously are and desire to be a moral and courageous, good, decent person,
so know the kingdom of god, study the hidden truths.

“When Plato describes his imaginary righteous man…he describes exactly the character of Christ. …If the life and death of Socrates are those of a philosopher, the life and death of Jesus Christ are those of a God.”--Rousseau

golden quote. it's so true...

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if you were totally fluent in synchro-mystic numerological english gematria you could read the esoteric meaning of the link i posted above, hehe... what would it tell you? would you awaken?

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PostTue Nov 22, 2011 1:52 am » by Truthdefender


esoteric wrote:It is very simple!
Once you accept that "god" is a force and not a person all religions make more sense and become compatible with modern science

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhaxV0rFlnE

starting at 2:46 is the most relevant part!! MUST WATCH!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzmuWmFZv5k


Life is too detailed, too complex, too personal, too involved, for God to be an impersonal, uninvolved, force; imo.
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PostFri Nov 25, 2011 8:40 pm » by SamueltheLion


truthdefender wrote:
esoteric wrote:It is very simple!
Once you accept that "god" is a force and not a person all religions make more sense and become compatible with modern science

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhaxV0rFlnE

starting at 2:46 is the most relevant part!! MUST WATCH!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzmuWmFZv5k


Life is too detailed, too complex, too personal, too involved, for God to be an impersonal, uninvolved, force; imo.


ok let's put it like this,

god is a very very very gentle very very very giant being,

who can etherically give you a hug, so he doesn't crush you.

he is not personal on the scale we think of as personal.

there are some humans who have more god-like characteristics than others,
and some humans who can obviously achieve "god like" feats, e.g remote healing, or just simple things like amazing piano/guitar/painting skills.

:cheers:

there is something you are grounded/addicted/attracted / bound too within christianity, but you have to question what you know in order to learn more.

if you are not evolving every day, you are devolving every day.

simple as :hugging:

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PostFri Nov 25, 2011 9:08 pm » by 1ofakind


I saw something before that says the first line in the Bible says that "In the beginning (TIME) God created the Heavens (SPACE) and Earth (MATTER). I'll let you work that out?

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PostFri Nov 25, 2011 9:58 pm » by SamueltheLion


1ofakind wrote:I saw something before that says the first line in the Bible says that "In the beginning (TIME) God created the Heavens (SPACE) and Earth (MATTER). I'll let you work that out?


yeah, what is a day in space anyway...

it only begins to exist when space does, thus, god is outside spacetime...

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cool trick god! :D

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