Scientology and Reptillians

[Iwanci Profile]

All comes down to what YOU think good is. Most people just DO, regardless of good or bad, just so happens that most is seen as good.

[Mediasorcerer Profile]

i take from that,our brains and the way we use differnt parts,and also,its at the 3rd eye level,[clairvoyant,clairaudient.calirsentient.]

i cant believe how grown adults get taken by this,sad.trick.

[Iwanci Profile]

What amazes me is that people can actually believe that ‘demons’ make them do things that they apparently do not want to do… hmmm…. Sorry to say that a person has wants, needs, and urges. Many times we feel the urge to do something totally irrational, for example, I am afraid of heights, however, put me in front of a window in a high rise building and I have an unexplainable urge to jump.

I read that a demon made two couples swap wives??? It didn’t actually have anything to do with the urge of one or several of the people did it? No blame the demons, simply because we cannot truly explain why it is that we often feel urges we cannot explain, urges that at times go against everything we believe to be right.

Demons do NOT exist, what many refer to as demons are simply the manifestation of thoughts or urges that we would not usually think or act upon.

Good vs bad is another thing all together, these two live a symbiotic life, you cannot have one without the other and vice versa. If you know no evil you will likely never know good, it would just ‘be’. Good vs bad is also a function of our individual beliefs and ethical standards. What some believe to be good may be frowned upon by others and vice versa. Our thoughts on what is good or bad also change through time, so what we once believed to be good we now believe to be bad, and good or bad also changes depending on necessity, for example, it is probably bad to steel from your neighbor, however if your children were starving it would probably be seen as justifiable, or not so bad at the very least.

So what is good and what is bad? These two form part of our individual values, ethics and belief systems. They are simply conscious necessities and form the basis for co-existence with other human beings and nature. The recognition of good or bad (ethics) can also be a valuable tool that has allowed mankind to reign at the top of the food chain by allowing him to work together and share resources, find a partner with whom to procreate successfully, and live in relative harmony. It is therefore ingrain in our minds and psyche and very much a needed tool for our successful existence.

So much that can be said when thought out properly, to do so however, you must keep an open mind and free yourselves from thoughts of demons, angels and other imaginary brain stifling ideologies. People have the right to be free yet they enslave themselves mentally by limiting the true nature of the human psyche and by assigning mythical and imaginary manifestations to that which they cannot truly explain, however, if they rid themselves of these shackles and thought through things logically, they will likely lift the veils and discover the human brain is a wonderful organism adept and skilled in the mastery of survival with or without the permission of its owner, as true as we breathe without reflection our subconscious gives us abilities we do not even know we are using., such is the power of our psyche.
Yet some are happy to simply place a label of ‘demon’ or ‘bad’ or evil etc and play down the power they hold within. I often wonder if the ancients had a better understanding of the inherent power of the mind, when did it become corrupted, when did we forget how to use our minds? I am guessing when religion was born and we enslaved our brains into eternal numbness. The smarter we become at building things that seem to aid our mind and make for easier explanations, the more we rely on these things and the more we lose our abilities to use the very mind we wish to aid. Not saying stop technological advancement, but stop and think things through and never underestimate the power we all hold within. Unleashing this power is the greatest threat that any government or religion would fear. Keep believing in magical nonexistent creatures and you limit yourself. This is how and why religion has become so strong in society, this is why religions are allowed to flourish by governments, this is why religions do not pay taxes, this is why most of the worlds riches are held by religious organizations, this is why governments revert to religious organizations before engaging in wars, this is why religion has been enabled to become the eternal people pacifier and enslaver at the same time. A great tool for enslavement, and what makes this so much worst, people actually want this enslavement, such is the beauty of deception.

People using their minds? Who would have thought that?

[Otomon Profile]

What amazes me is that people can actually believe that ‘demons’ make them do things that they apparently do not want to do… hmmm…. Sorry to say that a person has wants, needs, and urges. Many times we feel the urge to do something totally irrational, for example, I am afraid of heights, however, put me in front of a window in a high rise building and I have an unexplainable urge to jump.

I read that a demon made two couples swap wives??? It didn’t actually have anything to do with the urge of one or several of the people did it? No blame the demons, simply because we cannot truly explain why it is that we often feel urges we cannot explain, urges that at times go against everything we believe to be right.

Demons do NOT exist, what many refer to as demons are simply the manifestation of thoughts or urges that we would not usually think or act upon.

Good vs bad is another thing all together, these two live a symbiotic life, you cannot have one without the other and vice versa. If you know no evil you will likely never know good, it would just ‘be’. Good vs bad is also a function of our individual beliefs and ethical standards. What some believe to be good may be frowned upon by others and vice versa. Our thoughts on what is good or bad also change through time, so what we once believed to be good we now believe to be bad, and good or bad also changes depending on necessity, for example, it is probably bad to steel from your neighbor, however if your children were starving it would probably be seen as justifiable, or not so bad at the very least.

So what is good and what is bad? These two form part of our individual values, ethics and belief systems. They are simply conscious necessities and form the basis for co-existence with other human beings and nature. The recognition of good or bad (ethics) can also be a valuable tool that has allowed mankind to reign at the top of the food chain by allowing him to work together and share resources, find a partner with whom to procreate successfully, and live in relative harmony. It is therefore ingrain in our minds and psyche and very much a needed tool for our successful existence.

So much that can be said when thought out properly, to do so however, you must keep an open mind and free yourselves from thoughts of demons, angels and other imaginary brain stifling ideologies. People have the right to be free yet they enslave themselves mentally by limiting the true nature of the human psyche and by assigning mythical and imaginary manifestations to that which they cannot truly explain, however, if they rid themselves of these shackles and thought through things logically, they will likely lift the veils and discover the human brain is a wonderful organism adept and skilled in the mastery of survival with or without the permission of its owner, as true as we breathe without reflection our subconscious gives us abilities we do not even know we are using., such is the power of our psyche.
Yet some are happy to simply place a label of ‘demon’ or ‘bad’ or evil etc and play down the power they hold within. I often wonder if the ancients had a better understanding of the inherent power of the mind, when did it become corrupted, when did we forget how to use our minds? I am guessing when religion was born and we enslaved our brains into eternal numbness. The smarter we become at building things that seem to aid our mind and make for easier explanations, the more we rely on these things and the more we lose our abilities to use the very mind we wish to aid. Not saying stop technological advancement, but stop and think things through and never underestimate the power we all hold within. Unleashing this power is the greatest threat that any government or religion would fear. Keep believing in magical nonexistent creatures and you limit yourself. This is how and why religion has become so strong in society, this is why religions are allowed to flourish by governments, this is why religions do not pay taxes, this is why most of the worlds riches are held by religious organizations, this is why governments revert to religious organizations before engaging in wars, this is why religion has been enabled to become the eternal people pacifier and enslaver at the same time. A great tool for enslavement, and what makes this so much worst, people actually want this enslavement, such is the beauty of deception.

People using their minds? Who would have thought that?

Thanks for your post iwanci, you seem to be an educated man... so if I am correct you also like to understand things...

So I ask you to google the following words:

Methaphor, Allegory, Sarcasm

This will help you understand this thread better.

[Megame23 Profile]

lol

[Otomon Profile]

We have a conscience, we have the laws of morality written on our hearts. When we hurt someone else for our own gain, we know that is wrong. It is an abnormal condition to not recognize these natural feelings of morality, these people who dont feel that are what we call Psychopaths.

Psychology teaches us that everyone has the innate ability to be evil, so this is why it is important to raise our kids with good morals, so that they may grow up to be outstanding citizens, you probably had some good parents and thats awesome.

Do you know what is stopping me from going out there and killing people? My mother.
She always told me killing is wrong, so it is embedded into my brain that killing is wrong....

How is it that we all know that the nazis were wrong? how do we know that stopping Hitler was right? Why are we trying to stop the Illuminati now?

They weren't, it wasn't and we are merely trying to stop them because their belief system conflicts with ours... that does not necessarily make them evil.
Today you are really likely to eat beef or some sort of meat(unless your vegetarian,if so then never talk to me again lol j/k), do you know how the animal was killed? Why did it have to die for you to live? I don't expect you to reply, but that's how it is Megame... you justify the fact that you are a carnivore and for some people that is evil.

We know because we are meant to, because there is a higher law of morality given to us by whatever god is out there. When we are born we aren't given much to work with in terms of knowing how this universe works, but we are given this natural knowledge of right and wrong, we just know it for a lot of things. Some issues are harder for some people do agree on, but many we all just know instinctively.

Say there is an old woman about to get hit by a car, but you are in a hurry to catch your bus. You have time to get her to safety and stop the car from hitting her, but the bus will pull away soon and the driver isn't looking. You are going to have two feelings in this moment, one wanting you to help the lady, and the other wanting you to get to the bus on time, but what is it in you that lets you know which one is right? The way it makes you feel, we can feel morality.

Like I said before, I do not believe that we are instinctively good and nor does God implant morality unto us,the whole old lady scenario you presented, in real life she is most likely to get hit, atleast in my society because everyone here is a hedonistic apathetic loser, also remember those priests who had sex with little boys? Heck I personally experienced something similar...when the town`s only priest asked my mother to have sex with him in secret(that's probably why I stopped being catholic)

You should check this book out, Spock recommended it to me I thought it was pretty good, he talks some about Christianity, but its largely about this natural moral instinct I'm talking about.

Upload to Disclose.tv

Dude I played the video and it just him talking about things related about the book, not the book itself, did you post the wrong video maybe? Also isnt that the guy who wrote the script for those Hollywood movies about little kids killing old ladies made of ice and shit? (good film...good film)

And I really dont think these people think they are doing whats right for the world... They may tell people that, and be using this Aryan super race bull shit to get their shit done. But I dont think these people give a flying fuck about the future of the planet, they only care about the future of themselves and their bloodlines. Look at the planet around you man.

Look at all these dead animals

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8& ... 1cf55affcb

look at the oil spill

They don't give a damn about this planet or the people on it, they care about their plans to get more power, and they don't seem to care if they will be ruling nothing but an empty shell of what this planet once was. They are overrun with this demonic desire for a New World Order.

We are both young and fight for a noble cause but you must realize that there have been other before us... all of them thought they could save the world... but ultimately gave up for whatever personal reasons.

Stay strong.

I dono if that answered anything properly or not.

Yes it was a very good response, I can now see what you are all about....
But I only wish you acted because of what your heart tells you to do...
And not because of some morals that were programmed into you from childhood.

I'll think about it a bit and make a thread on free will tomorrow, could bring for a good discussion.

Cant wait to troll that thread!!!

[Iwanci Profile]

Thanks Oto, yet again another intellectual comment from you. (Sarcasm)

Your comments are all smoke no roast (metaphor)

Can’t be shagged thinking of an allegory for you..

I prefer the direct approach personally, so if you have something of value to add to this thread, or indeed have a difference of opinion about something I have stated, I am more than happy to debate it with you.

In so far as being educated? My view of education differs substantially from intelligence. Education for me is the absorption of material which has been pre-thought, pre-written and culminates in an understanding of what one has learnt. Intelligence is the using of one’s brain to garner information and draw one’s own conclusions based on many different inputs. You can be highly educated and unintelligent at the same time, which is the point I was trying to make in the thread. Many people use their brains as sponges, whilst this is one of the brains functions it is only a small part of the potential. Through the years this function has superseded most of the other functions of the brain to the point where our brains are greatly unknown to us.

So by all means Oto be direct my friend, if you disagree please state your case, if you have something of value to add please do so, if you offer no value and no substance, then do us all a favor and keep your comments to yourself. There are too many people in these forums with empty words we don’t need another.

Peace

*disclaimer, if i have misinterpreted your intentions, I apologise in advance, otherwise get a life.