Scoop the nuts

[Malogg Profile]

Scoop the nuts

Mentally ill roundup plan after train pushes

The city is making a major push to sweep the streets of dangerous, mentally ill New Yorkers — and has even compiled a most-wanted list, The Post has learned.

The measure follows a pair of high-profile subway-shove fatalities from December allegedly involving mentally ill individuals.

The city has already drawn up a list of 25 targets, sources said.

“After the Queens subway attack [of immigrant Sunando Sen], the [city] decided to take a proactive approach to track down the most dangerous mental-health patients that currently have mental-hygiene warrants” out for them, a law-enforcement source said.


TRACKING ’EM: The city, fearing liability following splashy front-page subway-shove tragedies — like those involving suspects Erika Menendez (above) and Naeem Davis — is looking to get the mentally ill off the streets.

Naeem Davis

Those warrants mean that the patients are not wanted for a crime but instead are being sought because they are not getting their court-ordered treatment.

There are a handful of cops assigned to the detail, which began working in the past few weeks, the source said.

Cops in the NYPD’s Real Time Crime Center are using high-tech methods to first track down the individuals, and detectives on the street have been assigned to then go after them and take them to hospitals, law-enforcement sources said.

In the past, the city Department of Health would ask cops for help finding mentally ill people who aren’t taking their court-mandated meds so they could be taken to clinics. But that only applied to those who had known addresses — and patients who went off the grid were rarely pursued, the sources said.

The city is now concerned it could be liable if one of those people goes off the rails and hurts someone — or themselves, the sources said.

And that’s prompted the Health Department to seek more help from the NYPD. These patients could, of course, be dangerous, health officials noted.

Now, “you have a family member who goes to the Department of Health and gives them the information. Then they go to the Police Department, and together, the DOH person and the police go out and try to track down these people,” said a city official. “They’re just trying to get these people help.”

“All of these patients are receiving treatment for mental-health conditions,” said Department of Health spokesman Sam Miller. “If they do not receive sustained treatment . . . they could pose some risk to themselves, family members or others.”

But tracking them down won’t be easy. “There’s no rhyme or reason to their craziness,” said a law-enforcement source.

“You might find yourself looking all over the place for one of these kooks who rides the subway back and forth.”Such craziness includes homeless man Naeem Davis’ alleged Dec. 3 fatal subway push of a Queens father — Davis has claimed voices guided his deadly act — and the horrifying shove of Sen allegedly by accused Muslim-hating maniac Erika Menendez.

Menendez told The Post in a rambling jailhouse interview that she likely would not have killed the hard-working man had she smoked weed that day — she uses it to self-medicate for bipolar disorder.

She also has allegedly told authorities that she killed Sen, a Hindu, because of 9/11 — not because so many people died, but because of the destruction of the buildings.

She has been found fit to stand trial.

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[Eldorado Profile]

What a claim to try claim to say she was mentally ill at the time.....

then to switch things around to say she's able to stand trial for her 'premeditated criminal intent'.

This was caused by their intent to ignore the psychological programming they use to create these "mentally ill' people........and the nature of the state of mind she was in at the time of the impulsive reaction she made, by pushing the "foreigner" into a train.

And their "treatment" while in custody, was used to deprogram her to a degree to which they could claim she was coherent. This deprogramming is actually a destruction of evidence, and is also used to make individuals seem sane, when they are still suffering from the programming to a degree that cannot be easily recognized, so she seems like she was coherent and aware of her actions, yet she was clearly labeled insane to a degree BEFORE all this happened.

This is all a violation of the letter of the law in the US, the fact remains that this was an impulsive reaction that was triggered from the years of programming she had to endure in the heyday after 9/11, until she snapped, lashing out at the first "foreigner" she saw......

Notice she's a latino??? Does it make sense that a "minority" would then turn against another "minority" on behalf of the National Immigration agendas that are persecuting the Latinos????

Would she naturally act like a person that is racist and biggoted towards arabs???.......

No, they would see themselves as being persecuted by the same entity, a governmental organization.

This is some serious cleaning of the house.......and the NYPD seems to have some serious unconstitutional policies that need to be reviewed by a higher authority.

Where did they get the permission to overrule the documented medical diagnosis that was placed on her after she went into the Social Services, looking for help, and when did they get the authority to "treat" her in this manner while in custody, being very hastily prepared, just to claim she no longer was insane...???

They will always ignore their own influences in these trials, and claim there is no evidence of this "Programming"

Yet they will treat her immediately when incarcerated with mind altering drugs, to deprogram the Programming???

[Clearized1 Profile]

What a claim to try claim to say she was mentally ill at the time.....

then to switch things around to say she's able to stand trial for her 'premeditated criminal intent'.

This was caused by their intent to ignore the psychological programming they use to create these "mentally ill' people........and the nature of the state of mind she was in at the time of the impulsive reaction she made, by pushing the "foreigner" into a train.

And their "treatment" while in custody, was used to deprogram her to a degree to which they could claim she was coherent. This deprogramming is actually a destruction of evidence, and is also used to make individuals seem sane, when they are still suffering from the programming to a degree that cannot be easily recognized, so she seems like she was coherent and aware of her actions, yet she was clearly labeled insane to a degree BEFORE all this happened.

This is all a violation of the letter of the law in the US, the fact remains that this was an impulsive reaction that was triggered from the years of programming she had to endure in the heyday after 9/11, until she snapped, lashing out at the first "foreigner" she saw......

Notice she's a latino??? Does it make sense that a "minority" would then turn against another "minority" on behalf of the National Immigration agendas that are persecuting the Latinos????

Would she naturally act like a person that is racist and biggoted towards arabs???.......

No, they would see themselves as being persecuted by the same entity, a governmental organization.

This is some serious cleaning of the house.......and the NYPD seems to have some serious unconstitutional policies that need to be reviewed by a higher authority.

Where did they get the permission to overrule the documented medical diagnosis that was placed on her after she went into the Social Services, looking for help, and when did they get the authority to "treat" her in this manner while in custody, being very hastily prepared, just to claim she no longer was insane...???

They will always ignore their own influences in these trials, and claim there is no evidence of this "Programming"

Yet they will treat her immediately when incarcerated with mind altering drugs, to deprogram the Programming???

Very true. I think the ones doing the "Programming" are the TRUE mentally ill ones.

[Lucidlemondrop Profile]

Great title for this particular issue.

I am posting this now as note to self to read it when I get back...........looks pretty interesting.

An old friend was mentioning recently that a short post on a thread you don't want to forget to remember is a handy tool!

[Cosmine Profile]

Crazy is normal,"normal" is crazy!