Scrub 2012 - Earliest Mayan Calendar Found

Thu May 10, 2012 8:24 pm » by **One-23**

So here we have it folks it's official, still gotta fork out for christmas presents.

The oldest-known version of the ancient Maya calendar has been discovered adorning a lavishly painted wall in the ruins of a city deep in the Guatemalan rainforest.

The hieroglyphs, painted in black and red, along with a colorful mural of a king and his mysterious attendants, seem to have been a sort of handy reference chart for court scribes in A.D. 800 — the astronomers and mathematicians of their day. Contrary to popular myth, this calendar isn't a countdown to the end of the world in December 2012, the study researchers said.

"The Mayan calendar is going to keep going for billions, trillions, octillions of years into the future," said archaeologist David Stuart of the University of Texas, who worked to decipher the glyphs. "Numbers we can't even wrap our heads around." A brilliant surprise

The newly discovered calendar is complex indeed, featuring stacked bars and dots representing fives and ones and recording lunar cycles in six-month chunks of time. But it wasn't these mathematical notations that first caught the archeologists' eye. William Saturno, an archaeologist from Boston University, was mapping the ancient Maya city of Xultun in northeast Guatemala in 2010 when one of his undergraduate students peered into an old trench dug by looters and reported seeing traces of ancient paint.

The discovery was "certainly nothing to write home about," Saturno told reporters on Thursday (May 10), in advance of releasing details of the murals in this week's issue of the journal Science. Paint doesn't preserve well in the rain forest climate of Guatemala, and Saturno figured that the faint red and black lines his student had found weren't going to yield much information. But he felt he had a responsibility to excavate the room the looters had tried to reach, if only to be able to report the size of the structure along with the paint finding.
As Saturno continued along the old trench to the back wall, he was shocked to run into a brilliantly painted portrait: a Mayan king, sitting on his throne, wearing a red crown with blue feathers flowing out behind him. Another figure peeks out from behind him. On an adjoining wall, three loincloth-clad figures sit, wearing feathered headdresses. One is captioned "Older Brother Obsidian," or "Senior Obsidian," a still-mysterious title. Next to the king, a man painted in brilliant orange wearing jade bracelets reaches out with a stylus, likely identifying him as a scribe. He is labeled as "Younger Brother Obsidian," or perhaps "Junior Obsidia
Source http://www.livescience.com/20218-apocalypse-oldest-mayan-calendar.html

Thu May 10, 2012 11:23 pm » by **One-23**

Sorry guys but I thoght this deserved a bump

More on the story

Archaeologists have found a stunning array of 1,200-year-old Maya paintings in a room that appears to have been a workshop for calendar scribes and priests, with numerical markings on the wall that denote intervals of time well beyond the controversial cycle that runs out this December.

For years, prophets of doom have been saying that we're in for an apocalypse on Dec. 21, 2012, because that marks the end of the Maya "Long Count" calendar, which was based on a cycle of 13 intervals known as "baktuns," each lasting 144,000 days. But the researchers behind the latest find, detailed in the journal Science and an upcoming issue of National Geographic, say the writing on the wall runs counter to that bogus belief.

"It's very clear that the 2012 date, while important as Baktun 13, was turning the page," David Stuart, an expert on Maya hieroglyphs at the University of Texas at Austin, told reporters today. "Baktun 14 was going to be coming, and Baktun 15 and Baktun 16. ... The Maya calendar is going to keep going, and keep going for billions, trillions, octillions of years into the future."

The current focus of the research project, led by Boston University's William Saturno, is a 6-by-6-foot room situated beneath a mound at the Xultun archaeological site in Guatemala's Peten region. Maxwell Chamberlain, a BU student participating in the excavations there, happened to notice a poorly preserved wall protruding from a trench that was previously dug by looters, with the hints of a painting on the plaster.

Saturno said he didn't think there'd be much to the wall, but "I felt we had a responsibility to find out at the very least how large this room was."

When archaeologists worked their way into the mound, they were amazed to find that it was a richly decorated room from the Classic Maya period, dating back to roughly the year 800. One niche was adorned with the faded picture of a Maya king, wearing a blue-feathered headdress and holding a white scepter. The picture of a scribe holding a stylus, perhaps the son or brother of the king, was painted nearby with the label "Younger Brother Obsidian." Another wall showed a row of three stylized black figures, with one bearing the hieroglyphic name "Older Brother Obsidian."

Four long numbers on the north wall of the ruined house relate to the Maya calendar and computations about the moon, sun and possibly Venus and Mars; the dates may stretch some 7,000 years into the future. These are the first calculations Maya archaeologists have found that seem to tabulate all of these cycles in this way. Although they all involve common multiples of key calendrical and astronomical cycles, the exact significance of these spans of time is not known.

Source http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/10/11639788-maya-calendar-workshop-documents-time-beyond-2012?lite/

Thu May 10, 2012 11:30 pm » by **Slith**

C'mon folks, this is some good stuff. Nice posts Cagey!

Fri May 11, 2012 12:07 am » by **Noentry**

Ah well I suppose we got Febuaty 14th 2016 mentioned in Ghostbusters
and then we will have the big one 2032, 2000 years after the death of Jesus.(doubt I will make this one)

So do not fear doomtards plenty of other dates to fear. :mrgreen:

Fri May 11, 2012 4:10 am » by **G3n3sis**

lol I was wondering why nobody had mentioned the prophecy in ghostbusters II. Good call.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCFJf0sRIp4

And while your at it, check this hilarious piece from the Daily Show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdw0T5Q66tc

Fri May 11, 2012 6:29 am » by **mediasorcery**

wow, nice find, so whose behind the mayan doom porn then? just booksellers, or more to it than that?

Fri May 11, 2012 9:20 am » by **Svaha**

"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; There is nothing new under the sun."

Ecclesiastes.

Perhaps the most important law I learned from natives is : "All power moves in circles."

You can test this law for yourself and will find that it's valid not only in nature (seasons, day/night ...) but also in cultures, or in the events that happen in your own life, like in patterns you repeat again and again.
And while your at it, you will also find that there is a sync in all these patterns, a heartbeat so to speak, so you will see a bigger picture emerging.

This is why a (wo)man who lived alone in a jungle or up a mountain the entire live, still can know all about the whole world, the whole universe, all is revealed in the silence.

The Maya's never predicted the end of the world in 2012, if the calculations were correct some major cycles will end this year, meaning the end of the fourth world and the beginning of the fifth (some call it the sixth world)
After that there will be a new first world.
The circles or wheels are actual sine waves shifted along the x-axis.

The Maya's were (of course) not alone in this, in fact all the native tribes/people knew of the cycles and massive effords were made to preserve this knowledge for the future and as some may know by now, with practical zero results, cause once again we are in self destruct mode, it may take a few hundred years but then we will succeed surely :mrgreen:

Fri May 11, 2012 9:45 am » by **One-23**

Svaha wrote:"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; There is nothing new under the sun."

Ecclesiastes.

Perhaps the most important law I learned from natives is : "All power moves in circles."

You can test this law for yourself and will find that it's valid not only in nature (seasons, day/night ...) but also in cultures, or in the events that happen in your own life, like in patterns you repeat again and again.
And while your at it, you will also find that there is a sync in all these patterns, a heartbeat so to speak, so you will see a bigger picture emerging.

This is why a (wo)man who lived alone in a jungle or up a mountain the entire live, still can know all about the whole world, the whole universe, all is revealed in the silence.

The Maya's never predicted the end of the world in 2012, if the calculations were correct some major cycles will end this year, meaning the end of the fourth world and the beginning of the fifth (some call it the sixth world)
After that there will be a new first world.
The circles or wheels are actual sine waves shifted along the x-axis.

The Maya's were (of course) not alone in this, in fact all the native tribes/people knew of the cycles and massive effords were made to preserve this knowledge for the future and as some may know by now, with practical zero results, cause once again we are in self destruct mode, it may take a few hundred years but then we will succeed surely

100% agree with you. Putting aside all religious beliefs (every man to his own) I think this excerpt from the monumental documentary "Zeitgeist" explains the cyclical nature of time very well.

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