Secret Societies: The String Pullers

Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:54 pm » by **Sentientseed**

Most freemason don't know what they are involved in

This assumption is usually relayed by the those in the following quote ...

99% of the sheeple believe "what comes there way"

They in turn accept/relay/expound these "beliefs" that came their way as a matter of fact....

therefore the following quote...

The mason lurkers around here will tear your apart

Although I don't view it as an attempt to tear anyone apart. More like illuminating the holes dug so others don't fall in.

Keep diggin' though...it is entertaining.

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Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:20 pm » by **Thor**

Just watched it. Seems legit, and well researched.

Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:53 pm » by **weasel666**

Thor wrote:Just watched it. Seems legit, and well researched.

trouble is people talk shit without even watching the doc in question :hmmm:

but nontheless here's a little disclaimer from me the poster:

"The things that i post have no personal message in them in any kind of shape or form. I'm totally detached of what i post, one day i may be posting about animals the next i'm posting about serial killers, there's no picking of themes or sides. I'm a releaser and i share the releases that come out, period."

Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:08 am » by **Sentientseed**

Well I watched it. It is another piece that speaks the same surface talk generalities as most of these things do.
Nothing wrong with that but I wish there were in depth specifics spoken of more often. The common thread seems to be the people mentioned.

I wish people would get into specifics more often. I know there is only so much time allotted to these, especially when there are gonna be on discovery channel type shows, but it would be nice to have more in depth investigations.

There was nothing on Freemasonry in this. Big reason for it? Freemasonry is more ideology than wielding anything as a group...especially any power. One can hear all kinds of tales about specific people but there association with masonry bears little on them outside of masonic circles. I might listen more to that if it were 50+ years ago but not nowadays. Since I am from Arkansas, let's take Bill Clinton. There are all sorts of abounding tales about him, but I highly doubt his lesser association with Freemasonry (DeMolay) has anything of note to it. I truly believe people are barking up the wrong tree with Freemasonry. Although I like Freemasonry, it is pretty much a defunct organization beyond a charitable social club. Most lodges are near broke, can barely pay their own bills to keep the lights on, and dwindling more and more in numbers to keep their respective lodges open.

This is merely my speculation, but if Freemasons have any real global outlook to implement as a group, I would guess it to be to umbrella most belief systems under mutually agreeable practical tenants without conflicting, divisive, religious, doctrinal, interference hindering progress toward a more inter-cooperative society. Not to rid the world of religion but focus more on the similar tenants proposed by such and not on the doctrinal dogmatic differences. This is accomplished on a individual basis by assisting one in moving toward a better self. This is done through allegory of a variety of belief systems and myths...but mainly...and most definitely outwardly...Abrahamic belief systems. People will see what they want to see though I suppose. This is my opinion only and I do not speak for any other Freemason nor am I any official spokesperson for Freemasonry itself. Each individual mason has their own opinions of masonry. Certain people...who just so happen to be Freemasons....may have their own agendas as an individual or as a group of Freemasons. There is a difference. There is also a difference between Freemasonry and Freemasons. They are not one and the same. A freemason is an individual who makes mistakes just like any other. Freemasonry is more an ideology, philosophy, and/or tool that a freemason interacts with. One can use tools however they wish and people do not necessarily use them for what they were designed for.

Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:14 am » by **weasel666**

Sentientseed wrote:
There was nothing on Freemasonry in this.

it's in another ep. :wink:

Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:23 am » by **weasel666**

Freemasonry, The Secret Empire

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Masonic States Of America

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Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:27 am » by **weasel666**

Illuminati of Bavaria

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Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:36 pm » by **Sentientseed**

weasel,

I finally have watched them all. Beyond speculative sensationalism, I would have to say they were not very accusatory of Freemasonry. I did not really see anything deriding Freemasonry. If it leaned either way, I believe overall it was more positive for Freemasonry than some naysayers might hope.

Even the Biblical stories read toward its preferred version of a "New World Order" interpreted in a variety of ways. The term New World Order in not really as ominous as it is made out to be.

It seems in these few videos that they show a battle of human ideologies that is carried over into a battle in physical reality. The battle being one of Theocratic Oligarchy vs Self Sovereignty. There is an element in the videos that tries to show that there are those who use the tools of each nefariously to bring about their own self serving interests. Within that context and merely as something to ponder, I speculate that people from both sides of this portrayed ideological battle tend to portray each other as a single entity. This detracts attention from the self serving individuals who walk among both groups and allows them to carry on their activity unfettered while those taking sides battle it out.

Those who are only self serving individuals are poor at self governance. They make no attempt to circumscribe their desires and keep their passions in due bounds. They rabidly pursue intemperance and excess regardless of its affect on others. This goes through all levels of society.

Does the last few sentences dominate society? Ask oneself.

Does lack of self control of the majority seem to be the basis for why we set up governments. Yet this same lack of self control is how these individuals within governments join together to become catalysts for corrupt governments?

If the desire is to move toward self sovereignty, then why do people not focus more on fixing that which is within themselves? With self sovereignty comes personal responsibility does it not?

In the interim toward self sovereignty of the entire society, what type of governance should their be? Would one want to keep out individuals whose sole purpose is inconsiderately self serving? I would guess it to be a nearly impossible task but a task none the less that is probably a necessary undertaking even knowing the chances are slim.

People can buy into the nefariousness of exclusion or secrecy all they wish I suppose. It can be a possibility for sure. I find it odd though that some of these same folks desire their own right to exclude themselves and keep their lives private. This desire can be for good purposes or bad purposes depending on the individual. The difference?

I will stop for now....getting long winded and realizing I am heading to even further in depth discussion on my part. What I will add before I go is that I am no fan of Theocratic Oligarchy.

Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:05 pm » by **weasel666**

thanks for your input Sentientseed, glad those videos gave you something to think about :cheers:

Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:32 pm » by **The57ironman**

weasel666 wrote:
"The things that i post have no personal message in them in any kind of shape or form. I'm totally detached of what i post, one day i may be posting about animals the next i'm posting about serial killers, there's no picking of themes or sides. I'm a releaser and i share the releases that come out, period."

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....uh....yeah