Seeds of sepratism planted amongst us.
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boondox681 wrote:the largest and most destructive form of separatism in the u.s. is the American two-party system.
Right on! George Washington is rolling over in his grave as we speak (or type)The republicans and democrats are like two blood feuding families fighting over the same little piece of crappy land that no one really wants anyway, but are to stubborn and dim-witted to call a truce and do what is right for the people. Its all about saving face and remaining in power for as long as possible. Through this feud, the American people get repeatedly shafted and passed over.
I'll tell you the main difference between the two parties.....the republicans want to give the American people a two day old biscuit, the dems want to give the American people a three day old biscuit..... problem is...no American wants either and no biscuit has enough sustenance quell the hunger of the American people....time to start baking our own!
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Right on! George Washington is rolling over in his grave as we speak (or type)
The republicans and democrats are like two blood feuding families fighting over the same little piece of crappy land that no one really wants anyway, but are to stubborn and dim-witted to call a truce and do what is right for the people. Its all about saving face and remaining in power for as long as possible. Through this feud, the American people get repeatedly shafted and passed over.
I'll tell you the main difference between the two parties.....the republicans want to give the American people a two day old biscuit, the dems want to give the American people a three day old biscuit..... problem is...no American wants either and no biscuit has enough sustenance quell the hunger of the American people....time to start baking our own!
and the sad thing is,fuckin' people think the solution is to add a THIRD party.fuck
i'm not a democrat,i'm not a republican,i'm not a libertarian nor teabagger.....
I AM AN AMERICAN
what a concept

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I cannot agree with the statement that we have been artificially divided by language, religion etc
Language, religion, etc is a unifying force amongst a group... and most groups get along and respect each other so long as the individuals in all groups feel a sense of belonging within their own groups...
Conflict is sown when groups of incompatible world views and ways of life are artificially clumped together into artificial nation-states with artificial forms of government. This is what the British and the French did to much of the world... People are forced into an artificial identity aligned with the objectives of the state, not with others they have anything in common with. People become fearful and hostile because they do not have an identifiable niche or an emotional or psychological "safe place" within the jumble of the artificial society. The support groups of family, friends, "tribe" have been taken away from us and we are left on our own in the huge world called the "state". Why do you think so many people church hop event though they are not religious, or join religious cults or country clubs? It is because they are all looking for a tribe- a close support group.
Language, religion, etc is a unifying force amongst a group... and most groups get along and respect each other so long as the individuals in all groups feel a sense of belonging within their own groups...
Conflict is sown when groups of incompatible world views and ways of life are artificially clumped together into artificial nation-states with artificial forms of government. This is what the British and the French did to much of the world... People are forced into an artificial identity aligned with the objectives of the state, not with others they have anything in common with. People become fearful and hostile because they do not have an identifiable niche or an emotional or psychological "safe place" within the jumble of the artificial society. The support groups of family, friends, "tribe" have been taken away from us and we are left on our own in the huge world called the "state". Why do you think so many people church hop event though they are not religious, or join religious cults or country clubs? It is because they are all looking for a tribe- a close support group.
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lighthouse wrote:In "The Gods of Eden" William Bramley gives an interesting explanation for this "separation" of humans into different religions, nations, languages and so forth.
It is obviously a way to control us and it helps generate the greatest economy of all; human conflict and war.
Fantastic book !!! one of my most fave books ever. well worth a read... and it does a good job theorizing about separatism !
James
aahhhhh,
Let's not at all forget what drives man, urges and influences him on.
Yes, we are all brothers and sisters, but some profoundly believe they are better than others. More deserving. Were all of the old world conquerors doing a good deed by converting all of the heathen indigenous tribes to their religion and killing off hundreds of thousands that refused?
The methods that control, are also the means of destruction.
The vanity of man will empower him to seek control over others, or allow him to disarm and be subject to control, from regret, deserving of punishment.
We have division and destruction on earth, because the world is not full of loving and humble people. It is full of facetiousness, greed, and lust for wasteful and meaningless pleasures.
Most all religions speak of equality. Being born into a world of equal people. We ourselves create our own demise, as long as we ignore that. We create idols of other men, and covet. We create the celebrities, the jocks, and hold up high those that we see as "better" than ourselves, and many or most times falsely so, allowing ourselves to be subjugated.
Let's not at all forget what drives man, urges and influences him on.
Yes, we are all brothers and sisters, but some profoundly believe they are better than others. More deserving. Were all of the old world conquerors doing a good deed by converting all of the heathen indigenous tribes to their religion and killing off hundreds of thousands that refused?
The methods that control, are also the means of destruction.
The vanity of man will empower him to seek control over others, or allow him to disarm and be subject to control, from regret, deserving of punishment.
We have division and destruction on earth, because the world is not full of loving and humble people. It is full of facetiousness, greed, and lust for wasteful and meaningless pleasures.
Most all religions speak of equality. Being born into a world of equal people. We ourselves create our own demise, as long as we ignore that. We create idols of other men, and covet. We create the celebrities, the jocks, and hold up high those that we see as "better" than ourselves, and many or most times falsely so, allowing ourselves to be subjugated.

hesop wrote:aahhhhh,
Let's not at all forget what drives man, urges and influences him on.
Yes, we are all brothers and sisters, but some profoundly believe they are better than others. More deserving. Were all of the old world conquerors doing a good deed by converting all of the heathen indigenous tribes to their religion and killing off hundreds of thousands that refused?
The methods that control, are also the means of destruction.
The vanity of man will empower him to seek control over others, or allow him to disarm and be subject to control, from regret, deserving of punishment.
We have division and destruction on earth, because the world is not full of loving and humble people. It is full of facetiousness, greed, and lust for wasteful and meaningless pleasures.
Most all religions speak of equality. Being born into a world of equal people. We ourselves create our own demise, as long as we ignore that. We create idols of other men, and covet. We create the celebrities, the jocks, and hold up high those that we see as "better" than ourselves, and many or most times falsely so, allowing ourselves to be subjugated.
100% in agreement.
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I'm with you on this one. I myself have grasped onto the term Convergence even though a certain someone uses it as his sales line, I still find it is very fitting.
All the little pieces of the whole pie that have been divied up and passed out are beginning to come together. All those pieces of the whole were sold as the whole to the people that received such.
Thus everyone has these little pieces of the Whole yet they have totally sold themselves on the fact that they have the whole and everyone else has None. It is the Childish Ego being given a treat, thus it grows and doesn't stop growing because it can continuously be fed. The Ego naturally seperates. Think of it as the image of a child shouting "Mine", To be stuck in such a state is to remain in spiritual immaturity. Please note I say spiritual NOT religious immaturity, there is a big difference.
The problem is, you cannot stop growth, it happens to you. You can bottle it up and try ignore it but nature has it's ways. We try to tell ourselves we control nature but we don't it is the other way around.
The question I find myself asking myself quite often is this, If we have been seperated in such a horrible fashion, then why? This is often followed by the obvious answer which is control. If control is the answer then whom wants the control? The easy answer is of course what most would say are the Elites of this world, but is the easy answer the right one?
I guess I have a hard time with that because I no longer consider just this world when I consider existence. My realm of perception has moved beyond Earth and now I see Milky Way, thus I see us existing in a Galaxy not just on a planet in that Galaxy. When you truly shift your perception in that manner then you begin to see other explanations considering our system is rather new comparitively to most of the systems in the Galaxy.
That would lead to my answer of the second question is that of course the control very possibly comes from outside of our world. I find myself asking myself now, How powerful would we be as a true Whole if this method of separation was not successful? Perhaps powerful enough to draw the attention of some more technologically advanced galactic civilization that doesn't ever wish to see such power revealed? The power of One.
All the little pieces of the whole pie that have been divied up and passed out are beginning to come together. All those pieces of the whole were sold as the whole to the people that received such.
Thus everyone has these little pieces of the Whole yet they have totally sold themselves on the fact that they have the whole and everyone else has None. It is the Childish Ego being given a treat, thus it grows and doesn't stop growing because it can continuously be fed. The Ego naturally seperates. Think of it as the image of a child shouting "Mine", To be stuck in such a state is to remain in spiritual immaturity. Please note I say spiritual NOT religious immaturity, there is a big difference.
The problem is, you cannot stop growth, it happens to you. You can bottle it up and try ignore it but nature has it's ways. We try to tell ourselves we control nature but we don't it is the other way around.
The question I find myself asking myself quite often is this, If we have been seperated in such a horrible fashion, then why? This is often followed by the obvious answer which is control. If control is the answer then whom wants the control? The easy answer is of course what most would say are the Elites of this world, but is the easy answer the right one?
I guess I have a hard time with that because I no longer consider just this world when I consider existence. My realm of perception has moved beyond Earth and now I see Milky Way, thus I see us existing in a Galaxy not just on a planet in that Galaxy. When you truly shift your perception in that manner then you begin to see other explanations considering our system is rather new comparitively to most of the systems in the Galaxy.
That would lead to my answer of the second question is that of course the control very possibly comes from outside of our world. I find myself asking myself now, How powerful would we be as a true Whole if this method of separation was not successful? Perhaps powerful enough to draw the attention of some more technologically advanced galactic civilization that doesn't ever wish to see such power revealed? The power of One.
i think religion was a good thing back in the days. it helps us understand and solve problems on that time.and maybe solved some other mysteries that we don't understand then. but the problem with a system is. it has to be upgraded. for the system to work. so we all can aksept and come together. and make this life a living paradis.thats the problem nothing wrong with religion. s long as its healthy for the time u live in. what i mean about time is. that how much you evolved spiritually and metaly. all i'm try to say is.we create ar one world.its like now we have this type of problem. but back then they had or we had heheh. other problems. every time has its one problems. that way they need they one solution.
so if religion is the prblem at this time. we all need to quit thinking religiously and creat something else. but eventually everything becomes a system. but i dont have problem with that as long as it works and we all ar happy.
awesome post thanks
so if religion is the prblem at this time. we all need to quit thinking religiously and creat something else. but eventually everything becomes a system. but i dont have problem with that as long as it works and we all ar happy.
awesome post thanks

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