Seeds of sepratism planted amongst us.

[Bayonetta Profile]

I once saw a woman weave a pair of slippers for her feet with dry strips of palm tree leaves.....the slippers themselves were amazingly strong....i picked up one of the stips of the dry palm leaf palm leaf and pulled it apart easily without any resistance that could have stopped my desire to do so..i wondered to how such a frail,fagile weak link create such a strong slipper..but then i picked up a hand full an tried the same again and found that grouped tightly together every weak string FOUND STRENGTH when TOGETHER.... we all agree that unity is a key to our success in 'truly freeing' ourselves from the furtitive oppression we all exist in and under....so what are the things that keep us from attaining such a useful tool that will benifit humanity?

.singularly we are but a frigile strip of that palm leaf...together we are the strong slipper that will protect 'our' feet for the walk and jorney to tomorrows promise...

A propose an exploration into the things that proccure the seeds of sepratism between us...soley for the awarness and soley.....

For your consideration

at the very foundation of the sepratism is a cornerstone block layed labeled religion.....all religion are suspect to fanatisism....but yet all search the connection with 'The Creator'....all embody truths and if we can see past this(one of many) components that serve the controlers we can come closer to the variables in all that create a worth while equation that will bring us closer to the road that will lead to a stregthened unification.

intersecting point.....



what do you see as components my brother/sister human being?

[Lighthouse Profile]

In "The Gods of Eden" William Bramley gives an interesting explanation for this "separation" of humans into different religions, nations, languages and so forth.
It is obviously a way to control us and it helps generate the greatest economy of all; human conflict and war.

[Bayonetta Profile]

In "The Gods of Eden" William Bramley gives an interesting explanation for this "separation" of humans into different religions, nations, languages and so forth.
It is obviously a way to control us and it helps generate the greatest economy of all; human conflict and war.

beautiful.....but now ...what do we do with our knowledge?

[Drjones Profile]

Thanks Bayonetta,inspirational post really.What can we do? I guess knowing is a large part of the battle,you can't win a war if you do not know your enemy or what you are fighting for.
I don't think the ideal human civilisation will be brought about by physical violence or would ever be brought about because of that...it has to be a spiritual awakening,a raising of consciousness,i believe this is happening to many people right now all over the world.I think this is what the mayans were predicting.
So for now we have to reamain calm in the midst of insanity,passive in the presence of violence and seek refuge in ourselves and others.Have faith in all things that are good.Let your heart do the talking....everything else will follow.

[Lighthouse Profile]

lighthouse wrote:
In "The Gods of Eden" William Bramley gives an interesting explanation for this "separation" of humans into different religions, nations, languages and so forth.
It is obviously a way to control us and it helps generate the greatest economy of all; human conflict and war.

beautiful.....but now ...what do we do with our knowledge?

Well, first of all we need to make sure this is common knowledge, and for the moment it is not.
Most people are unaware we have been artificially divided into different religions, nations, languages etc.
Even on this forum, that is supposed to represent people who look further than their noses, we often see disagreement and even aggression merely on the basis of religion or nationality.
Humans have a natural tendency of living peacefully together, unless they are conditioned in believing someone else is 'worth less', is a threat and so on.

The only thing we really have to do as a race is consider ourselves as what we are ONE RACE, and realize we all want the same.
Once we realize that, we can easily remove the ones conditioning us in believing the opposite.

[Drjones Profile]

lighthouse wrote:
In "The Gods of Eden" William Bramley gives an interesting explanation for this "separation" of humans into different religions, nations, languages and so forth.
It is obviously a way to control us and it helps generate the greatest economy of all; human conflict and war.

beautiful.....but now ...what do we do with our knowledge?

Well, first of all we need to make sure this is common knowledge, and for the moment it is not.
Most people are unaware we have been artificially divided into different religions, nations, languages etc.
Even on this forum, that is supposed to represent people who look further than their noses, we often see disagreement and even aggression merely on the basis of religion or nationality.
Humans have a natural tendency of living peacefully together, unless they are conditioned in believing someone else is 'worth less', is a threat and so on.

The only thing we really have to do as a race is consider ourselves as what we are ONE RACE, and realize we all want the same.
Once we realize that, we can easily remove the ones conditioning us in believing the opposite.

Well said Lighthouse.Yeah i've not seen too many people that would look me in the eye,see past all the artificial BS and see me for who and what i am a human being,although these people are not extinct,thank god..our natural state is love coupled with a symbiotic relationship with planet Earth,the ancient civilisations knew this,have left us proof of this...i'd say the past few hundred years especially the last 100 we have become so disconnected from the Earth and from each other,it's really sad,we all just want this madness to stop...so i say let's give it a try...

[Boondox681 Profile]

the largest and most destructive form of separatism in the u.s. is the American two-party system.

[Samkenman Profile]

We are one race! We are all the same on the inside! I could donate my kidney to an African man and he could donate his to me (so long as the blood types match). For anyone to think that one sect of society or race, as in color of skin, is better than another is a farce, an illusion, and an out-right blind lie.

This reminds me of the history of the Native American Indians. The Indians were (and continue to be) a great people, yet their main flaw was that they did not see themselves as a "people". They thought of themselves as individual tribes...a Comanche was a Comanche, a Mohawk was a Mohawk and there was no relation. This flawed separatist view ultimately lead to their demise and decline. Now, the tribes that are left are having to fight tooth and nail to have any kind of voice. A truly sad situation. I have taken several college history classes and one of the most common threads/opinions of my professors is: When the European immigrants began to "take over", slaughter, and relocate Native Americans, if the many Indian tribes had put aside their differences, banded together to fight as one people against the invaders, they would have out-numbered European immigrants 1,000 to 1. With that much man-power, the Indians very well could have over taken the immigrants and run them out of the country. It is interesting to think about how different America would be today if this had transpired.

I think we can all learn a lesson from the mistake of the Native Americans...."united we stand, divided we fall" is no longer just an "American slogan"...it is the slogan for everyone who stands in the face of oppression.

On a religious note.....I like to think of God as a disco ball. Every little mirrored facet of its surface is a different religion, yet , each one is an important part of the whole. If one is to truly understand religion, one must take a step back and look at the whole of it..not just one little facet.

[Drjones Profile]

Wow,samkenman said-
'This reminds me of the history of the Native American Indians'

Are you psychic m8,i just posted something along those lines.

[Bayonetta Profile]

Another component that maintains the soils of humanity fetile for the seeds of sepratism is 'race'......a useful application that manipulates our perceptions rooted in places that bound us to look beyond our unified human similarities and focus more on the differences of adaptation to regional derivings.....it is anchored in what creates difficulty to see the strengths in cultural bondings.......the application of religions works along with it....but funny that the tools that keep us seperate are the very aspects that can strengthen us.

sometimes i wonder to where we have learnt how to enslave one another, being that, that lesson is suspect to have been taught to humanity...as we were slaves to 'others' at one point in our true history....

learnt or is it our true nature?

in my perception it was something learnt and became infectious to societies that have endured at one point or the other in their individual histories.

The Indo-European Dorian conquerors of Sparta established one of the harshest racially-based states in history. A tiny minority of Spartan masters lorded it over a large population of enserfed aboriginal Helots, who had virtually no civil or political rights. "Once a year, the Spartans declared war on the helots, so that their young men could kill any who seemed insubordinate without incurring the legal guilt of homicide" (Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy, Simon and Schuster, 1972, p. 95).


An apartheid-like system existed in early Anglo-Saxon England, which prevented the native British genes getting into the Anglo-Saxon population by restricting intermarriage and wiped out a majority of original British genes in favour of Germanic ones, according to a new study. According to research led by University College London, Anglo-Saxon settlers enjoyed a substantial social and economic advantage over the native Celtic Britons[3] who lived in what is now England, for more than 300 years from the middle of the 5th century.[4][5][6]


The first part of the Visigothic period was characterised by a system of apartheid. Intermarriage between Visigoth migrants and Roman natives was forbidden in Visigothic France and Spain in the late 5th and early 6th century.[7] The Germanic Visigoths and Hispano-Romans were separate; each nationality had its own priests and churches, its own courts, judges, and civil services.[8]


Jews in Western Europe generally were forced, by decree or by informal pressure, to live in highly segregated ghettos and shtetls. By the beginning of the 20th century, most European Jews lived in the so-called Pale of Settlement, the Western frontier of the Russian Empire consisting generally of the modern-day countries of Poland, Lithuania, Belarus and neighboring regions.[9]

Jewish population were confined to mellahs in Morocco beginning from the 15th century. In cities, a mellah was surrounded by a wall with a fortified gateway. In contrast, rural mellahs were separate villages inhabited solely by the Jews.[10]

In the middle of the 19th century, J. J. Benjamin wrote about the life of Persian Jews:

"…they are obliged to live in a separate part of town…; for they are considered as unclean creatures… Under the pretext of their being unclean, they are treated with the greatest severity and should they enter a street, inhabited by Mussulmans, they are pelted by the boys and mobs with stones and dirt… For the same reason, they are prohibited to go out when it rains; for it is said the rain would wash dirt off them, which would sully the feet of the Mussulmans… If a Jew is recognized as such in the streets, he is subjected to the greatest insults. The passers-by spit in his face, and sometimes beat him… unmercifully… If a Jew enters a shop for anything, he is forbidden to inspect the goods… Should his hand incautiously touch the goods, he must take them at any price the seller chooses to ask for them... Sometimes the Persians intrude into the dwellings of the Jews and take possession of whatever please them. Should the owner make the least opposition in defense of his property, he incurs the danger of atoning for it with his life... If... a Jew shows himself in the street during the three days of the Katel (Muharram)…, he is sure to be murdered."[11]


Many Latin American countries have caste systems based on classification by race and race mixture. An entire nomenclature developed, including the familiar terms "mulato", "mestizo", and "zambo" (whence "sambo"). The caste system was imposed during colonial rule by the Spanish who had practiced a form of caste system in Spain prior to the expulsion of the Jews and Muslims. While many Latin American countries have long since rendered the system officially illegal through legislation, usually at the time of independence from Spain, prejudice based on degrees of perceived racial distance from Spanish ancestry combined with one's socioeconomic status remain, an echo of the colonial caste system.[12][13]


A ban of interracial marriage was part of the Nuremberg Laws enacted by the Nazis in Germany against the German Jewish community during the 1930s. The laws prohibited marriages between Jews and Aryan Germans, which were classified as different races.

Under the General Government of occupied Poland in 1940, the population was divided into different groups, each with different rights, food rations, allowed strips in the cities, public transportation, and assigned

Ukrainians,
Highlanders (Goralenvolk) - an attempt to reverse the greater "Polish" identity
Kashubians (Kaschobenvolk) - similar attempt like with Goralenvolk, but less successful
Poles,
Jews
Homosexuals
Roma people
Jehovah's Witnesses
During the 1930s and 40s, Jews in Nazi-controlled states were made to wear yellow ribbons or stars of David, and were, along with Romas (Gypsies) discriminated against by the racial laws. Jewish doctors and professors were not allowed to treat Aryan (effectively, gentile) patients or teach Aryan pupils, respectively. The Jews were also not allowed to use any public transportation, besides the ferry, and would only be able to shop from 3-5 in Jewish stores. After Kristallnacht ("The Night of Broken Glass"), the Jews were fined 1,000,000 marks for damages done by the Nazi troops and SS members. Jews and Roma were subjected to genocide as "racial" groups in the Holocaust).


The British colony of Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe), under Ian Smith, leader of the white minority government, declared unilateral independence in 1965. For the next 15 years, Rhodesia operated under white minority rule until international sanctions forced Smith to hold multiracial elections, after a brief period of British rule in 1979.

Laws enforcing segregation had been around before 1965, although many institutions simply ignored them. One highly publicized legal battle occurred in 1960 involving the opening of a new Theatre that was to be open to all races, this incident was nicknamed "The Battle of the Toilets"........

http://www.search.com/reference/Racial_segregation