I agree with most of this except for one point. Why wear masks? Let's show our faces. let's be brave.

Quote:

“The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it.”

Thucydides

This is our world too and we owe it to ourselves to act with openness, honesty and integrity even if it does mean we're on a hit list. When we are victorious we'll destroy the database.

I do agree that it needs to start off peacefully. But we all know that the cops and military will surely get involved shortly after the begining. Therefore, I believe that the people need to be prepared to protect themselves from thier onslought of tear gas, rubber bullets, batons and, at one point even real bullets...the government will not go down without a fight and they will kill people in thier defence.....so leave the SMALL children at home, and bring all the roudy teens capable of fighting instead

Here is a list of things that people may need to have handy....just a suggestion.......
1. Gas Masks....Wearing masks is a great idea...so instead of a holloween mask or such, trade it in for a gas mask. If you cant get a gas mask, at least get a charcoal filtered respirator (used in spray painting) and a pair of goggles. The spray paint mask may not hold up as long as a gas mask, but it will protect you for a time and maybe get a few extra filters you can swap out quickly when the old filters become clogged.
2. Flak Jackets....I know not everyone can get a bullet proof jacket, so, if no jacket can be bought, wear mutiple layers clothes and pad your chest with foam padding or pillows. The padding won't stop a bullet, but it will lighten the impact of rubber bullets and keep you on your feet.
3. Helmets....Motorcycle, football (american football), any kind of helmet that will stand up to a bout with a baton. Other sports garmets like shin gaurds, elbow pads, gloves ect...would be helpfull.
4. Ear Plugs....for those peskey sonic weapons they may use to disorientate you with.
5. I hate to say it....but "they" will eventually use deadly force....Ones needs to be able to defend themselves and fight back....Concealed weapons will may be a safe bet...if you cant get a gun, get a big knife/sword and go old school on'em....mautove cocktails are cool too....
6. Bakcpack....put everything you can in it to conceal it from plain sight.....but be ready to break it all out when the shit hits the fan...
Wear the padding and sports padding under your clothes...baggy pants will conceal shin gaurds, and big coats/jackets will cover most anything else...

Call me paranoid...call me stupid...call me just plain crazy
I'm not afraid to die for a just cause, but I'd protect myself in such a way that I may stay in the fight for as long as possible and not be taken out in the first round...no sence in walking strait into a bullet or trying to break through a line of riot cops unprotected...

Love that man, apart from the kid dying but yeh...

Have thought of the 'V' thing as a possibility before, the masks are needed for the statement i.m.o. (anyone with half a brain would get why were marching so it wouldn't matter if the MSM was on our side they wouldn't be able to put much spin on it if we marched peacefully)

Set the sh*t up, I'm good for it...

-need to work out a proper route
-date
-get masks
-get possible sponsorship
-get coverage etc..

As for Proto's advice I don't get what that would achieve realistically, what should we do man? stop having sugar in our tea lol done that and nothings changed

We march for real change
We march for Truth
We march for justice
We march for accountability
We march for our country
We march for the world!

http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/index. ... ews_id=304 <£5 each for a V mask

Get the bikers on our side aswell!

Outlaws and Hells Angels could probably be recruited! I know where to contact 'em

No need for weapons on the first march, that would give them an excuse and we would lose the moral high ground but, if we are met with force then on the next march we will have the upper hand and we will march with everything we got

i think there will be way less violence with lainns proposal.peacefull and to the point.
it has'nt been tried.
armed protest,seems to me,will lead to civil war and more violence.
the goverment WILL be violent and nothing will be resolved.
killing and being killed is how it always goes,followed with justification for more violence.

one day of staying home,hanging out with folks you love.now that would be a statement.
a whole week,hmmm

i suggest the week before and including christmas.that should take the corperations by storm.
right into the heart of tyranny
peace

My original point was that we do have the remnants of a democratic system which, if harnessed properly, could be used - by us - to take control of the system and put in place a legitimate government. It may be naive and it may take a few martyrs but if it can be imagined then surely it can be realised.

lol , wow stop having sugar in our tea?! chill down man you don't want the
system at your throat with such bold acts of resistance

lets see which idea is more practical and realistic ,a revolution ?
or changing the way you interact with your surroundings ?

lets examine this thread in a month and see where this revolution
have lead us,my guess it's just another armchair interweb rebellion
that will lead to nowhere .

Harnessing the good will of the people is a definite must! No it is not naive. If...correction...WHEN this goes down there will be plenty of folks ready to die for it. I'm sure everyone will have thier own personal martyrs to stand behind.

Things are getting worse all the time here in the states, and across the world....
It is just a matter of time before the people rize up and take back what is righfully thiers. It WILL not be pretty and ...the streets WILL run red

Safety in numbers.. .so long as everyone wears a helmet

Die for what? Even on this site we can't agree about anything.

I'm so tired of people talking about how the "people will rize up".

What happens once you dismantle the government? What happens to the nukes, the money, private property, the land itself?

Who makes the new rules and what will they be? What would there be to stop, for instance, factions of the military becoming warlords?

How do you oversee the "power" being peacefully transferred to the "people"? (BTW, that sounds like Communism, is that what you guys mean?)

Oh yeah, and we'll get those nice Hells Angels to help out. That'll be great.

Do you actually think some governmental overthrow (bloody or not) is going to solve your problems even if it were remotely feasible?

Put it this way, if it gets bad enough to where people are willing to take on their own leadership in this way, then that's a signal we are headed for a terrible bloodbath that will leave us in a much worse position than we are in now.

Get real. If you care about changing the world, start with yourself and quit being a consumer. Get off the grid. Are you even ready for that?

While you're at it, read a book called Player Piano by Kurt Vonnegut. You won't find any answers but he makes some good points concerning revolutions.

(Please don't take this personally, anyone. I understand the frustration. I'm not claiming to have any answers either. Just more questions...)