Seven Royal Marines Held Over Afghan Murder

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PostFri Oct 12, 2012 12:06 am » by Fatdogmendoza


Seven Royal Marines have been arrested on suspicion of murder over an incident in Afghanistan last year.

The arrests by the Royal Military Police relate to a killing which happened after "an engagement with an insurgent", the Ministry of Defence (MoD) said.

No civilians were involved.

The MoD said: "The investigation will now be taken forward and dealt with by the Service Justice system.

"These arrests demonstrate the Department and the Armed Forces' determination to ensure UK personnel act in accordance with their Rules of Engagement and our standards.

"It would be inappropriate to make any further comment while the investigation is under way."

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PostFri Oct 12, 2012 12:12 am » by Icarus1


theres something strange going on here , if no civilians are involved as they say how can you be charged with murder of the enemy unless the poor basterds surrendered and where executed , and why now after all this time , there must be dirt about to fly , maybe its in the next wiki leaks due to come out soon, maybe somebody has it on film , either way it sucks
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PostFri Oct 12, 2012 12:22 am » by Tuor10


I echo Icarus's sentiments.
It sounds like some sort of execution of Taliban prisoners took place.

A few years back, a Gurkha got in trouble for cutting the head of a Taliban commander. The red cross wanted the soldier done for war crimes or some shit like that.

I don't know...War is war. Why dress it up in a pink fucking skirt?

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PostSun Oct 14, 2012 12:26 pm » by Icarus1


Five Royal Marines have been charged with murder in connection with an incident in Afghanistan in 2011, the Ministry of Defence has confirmed.

Two marines were detained by Royal Military Police (RMP) over the weekend, bringing the total number of arrests to nine.

Four of those held have been released without charge.

An MoD spokesperson said those charged with murder "remain in custody pending court proceedings".

"It would be inappropriate to comment further on this ongoing investigation."

The five cases were referred to the Service Prosecuting Authority (SPA), an independent body that conducts prosecutions on behalf of the military, who decided they should face murder charges.

Speaking on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show, Defence Secretary Philip Hammond did not comment on the specifics of the case but insisted the MoD was "determined that rules of engagement" be followed.

He added: "Everybody serving in theatre knows the rules of engagement, they carry cards in their uniforms with the rules on them in case they should need to remind themselves."

Bruce Houlder QC, the director of service prosecutions, will oversee the next stage of the process, which is likely to be trial by court martial.
'Insurgent engagement'

The marines were arrested on Friday after suspicious video footage was found on a serviceman's laptop by civilian police in the UK.

It is believed to be the first time UK servicemen have been arrested and charged with such charges during the Afghanistan conflict.

The charges are related to an incident in Afghanistan last year, when Royal Marine 3 Commando Brigade was based in Helmand.

The MoD previously said the incident followed an "engagement with an insurgent" and no civilians were involved.

During a six-month tour of duty, which lasted from April to October last year, seven servicemen from 3 Commando Brigade were killed in action, all from 42 Commando.

A court martial is a public court with similar powers to a crown court. It can impose prison sentences, fines or other forms of justice depending upon the nature of the crime.

They are presided over by a judge advocate and a board of up to seven lay members, individuals with no legal training much like a jury in civilian courts.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19940138


i knew there was footage of this...............................................
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PostSun Oct 14, 2012 1:09 pm » by Noentry


Contract killing within the army.
Splinter sections of the marines who are paid to assassinate, carry out contracts.

Read, The Feather men. Or watch, Killer Elite.

Sir Ranulph Fiennes, the book's author, claims that a secret society called the "Feather Men", made up of retired and disabled SAS members, was operating in the shadows. They are called the "feather men" because their influence and intervention were subtle, like the touch of a feather. Their job was to protect SAS personnel and their families and avenge wrongs or harm done to them.


This is still going on in the army to this day.
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PostSun Oct 14, 2012 1:34 pm » by Richc


"Everybody serving in theatre knows the rules of engagement, they carry cards in their uniforms with the rules on them in case they should need to remind themselves."

And its that mentallity thats sending our good men and women back in body bags. :hell:

The enemy can run rings round us because they will never play by "THE RULES" :nope:

War is war, war is hell.
If we didn't play by the rules then we would have more success and they would think twice.

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PostSun Oct 14, 2012 1:40 pm » by Icarus1


theres no easy answer to this richc, if you put men in the field then theres the danger of them becoming the monster that they are put in to fight , you can pull them out and try and bomb the enemy back to the stoneage but i think this was tried in vietnam and it didnt work , i dont mind any man who stands on his countrys border to protect it , the problems start when you invade another , then you become the invading army , to the locals you are the devil. but i guess you are right , war is hell.
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