sexuality.....a bi future?

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PostThu Mar 26, 2009 6:27 am » by Bawdiemaude


an 'off' off topic ?-

but this thread is sparked by a mention by someone who said their wife was bisexual...
Having tasted both fruits myself....
I concluded ( i am making assumptions from an idea of spirituality ) that if our essential nature is spirit- then will humans not inevitably head towards common bisexuality?

If the spiritual goal of sex ( again im making assumptions) is to connect to multi dimensions or at least be in ones essence or spiritual self......from that perspective does gender make any difference? (other than the mechanics of baby production!)

Everyone i mention this to - especially men- disagree vehemently.......

maybe im just living up to my name.........BAWDY!!

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PostThu Mar 26, 2009 4:07 pm » by Wrathofkahn


Also being straight myself, I do not associate that act of sex as a spiritual event. I love my gf for who she is as a person. The fact that I am sexually attracted to her is a bonus. At one time she put on over 100 pounds and it made our sex life tough, but i still wanted to be with her. She has since dropped the 100 lbs(thank god). I guess i am saying that I think sex is pure instinct, physical chemistry, and choice...not spiritual in any way to me. I have spiritual connections with my close friends that require no sexual contact.(thank god...pretty ugly bunch of dudes lol!)
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PostThu Mar 26, 2009 4:58 pm » by Spock


Oh, hell no!
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PostThu Mar 26, 2009 5:02 pm » by Wrathofkahn


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PostSun Mar 29, 2009 3:23 am » by Bawdiemaude


well i dunno

i sometimes think i think too much
it may seem like a frivoulous topic......
but if we really are that limited to visual

you jane me tarzan mentality

is that not some other form of separtism?

I mean is it not the soul/personality that is what is attractive or am i just being a dreamer again??


i apologise for being crude but most guys seem to love anal sex with their woman....is it such a difference with a guy??? I dont know????!!!!!!!!! do butt holes have gender??

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PostSun Mar 29, 2009 4:20 am » by Drextin


Here is my honest belief and I would bet my life that it is exactly the nature of things.

Women are born bisexual. Men are not.

Now I know that sounds chauvinistic................but it's not.

Women who deny their bisexuality are usually the more catty types. The reason.........well obvious. When the catty types see a attractive woman their defense mechanism kicks in and instead of being "hot damn! She is beautiful" it becomes "look at that slut,whore,bitch". Thy protest too much kinda thing.

True lesbians are usually women who through some traumatic event at childhood (caused by a man) and turn towards their bisexuality full time. Adopting the same mannerisms as a man since to them manly actions = power. The same power that was wielded against them as children by a male abuser.

The flipside is women who as adults go through a abusive relationship with a male and sometimes find solace with another woman because it seems less stressful and most lesbians will cater to their emotions better than the men they were with. Though many forget that lesbians are mimicking men to the point that after the initial emotional support it starts to become every bit as complicated a relationship as any other.. Ever noticed that while gay men almost always exhibit happiness for the most part lesbians and their femme partners tend to lean towards depression. Both reached their sexualities from different directions.


Now for men.

See we are different. We can't wake up in the morning and go hmmmm maybe I'll gets me a man today. It don't work that way. As for anal sex for men. I'm sure there are plenty who do but with their female counterpart not a male. True bisexuality does not exist in men. You're either gay or not. Of course curiosity has hit us all at times but in only the fleetest of moments. Gay men are actually men with a genetic problem with them from birth. You can't pray it out of them and if there were a medical cure I wouldn't force it upon them since they are who they are and they have the right to live as anyone. I wouldn't want to be cured of my straightness just because people told me I was weird or god hated me.

I believe that without men women would evolve to the point where they could reproduce without us.

I'm not a homophobe and have always held the belief that those who are are actually men hiding the fact they are gay. Homophobe is not the same as us straight guys who make jokes. But those who seek to demonize them or harm them.

My wife is bisexual and we have friends who are gay and lesbian. Human sexuality is complex with many variables depending on the person but they are still governed by the same set of emotional natural laws.

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PostSun Mar 29, 2009 4:44 am » by Bawdiemaude


actually i agree with you drextin about woman being naturally bi.......

when i was young my friend and i were curious- and i mean we were really young - like 7 or 8.

when i was married i was very afraid when women would give me too tight a hug.....i had a friend at the time that talked about girl crushes and i understood but was scared about it.
then my marriage ended and i allowed myself to explore.....i have been with a few women but in the end i prefer men- but can still see the appeal and am still attracted to women from time to time......(but am not sure if its cos i want to be them!!)

also the female form is so prevelant in media as sexual and attractive- male or female its hard not to be conditioned by that.....

i am still NOT convinced that men will never reach that evolution.....for one thing look at metrosexuals- jeez i dated a guy who was better groomed than me and in touch with his female side but oh my he was most def not gay.
i just think that the distinctions between men and women are blurring - most obviously in the cities....straight men are grooming as much as women....

or am i confusing sexuality with image???? i realise that it is a lame argument to say that grooming = sexual preference

and isnt that a thing to think about too....how much our sexuality is affected by our socially conditioned idea of what is sexy?

so where is sexuality going???
I mean is every one going to be waking around with fake tits, ass, pecs and white teeth in 100 yrs time or will the future generations be having some kind of non contact vulcan sex???
porn is now widespread and every fantasy you can think of is being explored as we speak online- in 100 yrs will we have the same 'oooh naughty' attitude or will we push that so called depravity till there is another shift and there is a new sexology??


what do you think??

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PostSun Mar 29, 2009 7:04 am » by Drextin


I Can't elaborate at the moment I have company but I just wanted you to know that I will reply to your post because it raises some very interesting and provocative thoughts about metrosexuals and so on.

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PostSun Mar 29, 2009 7:30 am » by Pauldamo


well i believe guys are naturally bi,but a lot try to deny it,I'm amazed at how many guys become footballers,wrestlers,sailors and soldiers, seems they are seeking out male companionship in a legit setting where they are accepted,what about how most males always treat females as objects,calling them their bitches,they think of themselves as studs.if they really loved females you'd think they'd treat woman better,but they'd rather be with the boys,getting pissed and pinching each others bum.and what about the so called straight guys who have sex with a woman and another guy or two present,i'd call it bi,but they just don't accept that.what about all the guys who sit and watch male footballers,why not watch females.i think male sports are for gays,concerning. receiving anal sex from a woman,that's just gay in disguise.PS.these obviously aren't facts.

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PostSun Mar 29, 2009 11:03 am » by Maximus71


having been an experimentalist myself and having being incarcerated in prison for a few years a while ago,i couldnt help but notice that 90 percent of male prisoners enganged in sexual activity with other men and used women to deliver contraband all the while refering to the women as couriers!! of course there is exeptions but the proof is in the pudding with bi ppl increased in population over the last 35 years 10 fold.....women want to be men and men want to be women.ppl are ppl and bisexuality could well be part of our evolution!


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