Shuttle Astronaut Story Musgrave Comes Clean "UFO's Exist"

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PostWed Oct 05, 2011 2:40 am » by Spock


I'd just prefer to read it from a source that is somewhat vetted and not hysterical. However the videos in this thread prove that Musgrave is a believer.

BTW - It's only plausible that photo was taken from the ISS.

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PostWed Oct 05, 2011 3:48 am » by Frutty


spock wrote:BTW - It's only plausible that photo was taken from the ISS.


Two pieces of data. And a challenge question.

Knowing that the Earth's diameter at the equator is 7,926.28 miles (12,756.1 km) , and also knowing that according to official sources the highest altitude a manned vehicle has ever reached is 394 km (the supposed orbit of the Hubble telescope):

Could you see the Earth's curvature from that altitude?

Of course without hesitating everybody having seen the purported photos/footage by these vehicles would say Yeeeees!

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Think again. Draw a pencil and paper and do some elementary Math. (just assume the earth is a perfect sphere)

If you calculations are correct, you will be surprised at what you will find!
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PostWed Oct 05, 2011 3:50 am » by Will69ease


Here is an interesting fact, this website where I find many of my shuttle anomalies doesn't
have any pictures from STS-80...the one Dr Musgrave was on when the ufo appeared under it.
http://spaceflight1.nasa.gov/gallery/

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PostWed Oct 05, 2011 4:02 am » by Will69ease


In fact, if any of you can locate any of the mission photos of STS-80 please respond with a link.
Not launch photos, not photos of the astronauts...from space taken by the crew of Columbia.
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PostThu Oct 06, 2011 6:24 am » by Will69ease


will69ease wrote:In fact, if any of you can locate any of the mission photos of STS-80 please respond with a link.
Not launch photos, not photos of the astronauts...from space taken by the crew of Columbia.
Good luck

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PostThu Oct 06, 2011 8:00 am » by Seahawk


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PostThu Oct 06, 2011 1:07 pm » by Deuem


frutty wrote:
spock wrote:BTW - It's only plausible that photo was taken from the ISS.


Two pieces of data. And a challenge question.

Knowing that the Earth's diameter at the equator is 7,926.28 miles (12,756.1 km) , and also knowing that according to official sources the highest altitude a manned vehicle has ever reached is 394 km (the supposed orbit of the Hubble telescope):

Could you see the Earth's curvature from that altitude?

Of course without hesitating everybody having seen the purported photos/footage by these vehicles would say Yeeeees!

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Think again. Draw a pencil and paper and do some elementary Math. (just assume the earth is a perfect sphere)

If you calculations are correct, you will be surprised at what you will find!

OK, I will bite. If you are at 394KM or 244miles up and look straight down all you will see is Earth and no curvature. If you shift your focus point to the edge you can see a radius. Are you talking about cords? If at sea level on a calm day way out if you look around you can only see as far as the horizon. You can not see the curvature. It looks like one long straight line as if you are inside a circle. No matter how far you get away you will only be able to see to the tangent points so you can never even see half of a globe. With out radar, the picture could be just a flat disk. But at this height you can see the edge of the disk, rather it is a section of a spherical object or not needs 3D information.

If you could post your findings I will look them over.
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PostThu Oct 06, 2011 1:51 pm » by Frutty


deuem wrote:
frutty wrote:
spock wrote:BTW - It's only plausible that photo was taken from the ISS.


Two pieces of data. And a challenge question.

Knowing that the Earth's diameter at the equator is 7,926.28 miles (12,756.1 km) , and also knowing that according to official sources the highest altitude a manned vehicle has ever reached is 394 km (the supposed orbit of the Hubble telescope):

Could you see the Earth's curvature from that altitude?

Of course without hesitating everybody having seen the purported photos/footage by these vehicles would say Yeeeees!

Image

Think again. Draw a pencil and paper and do some elementary Math. (just assume the earth is a perfect sphere)

If you calculations are correct, you will be surprised at what you will find!

OK, I will bite. If you are at 394KM or 244miles up and look straight down all you will see is Earth and no curvature. If you shift your focus point to the edge you can see a radius. Are you talking about cords? If at sea level on a calm day way out if you look around you can only see as far as the horizon. You can not see the curvature. It looks like one long straight line as if you are inside a circle. No matter how far you get away you will only be able to see to the tangent points so you can never even see half of a globe. With out radar, the picture could be just a flat disk. But at this height you can see the edge of the disk, rather it is a section of a spherical object or not needs 3D information.

If you could post your findings I will look them over.
Deuem


I'll try to be brief. I am talking here "conic sections".

The conic section derived by the data I give would be so flat that hardly you could notice any curvature in the horizon in your line of sight.

Examine the pic below. The height of the vantage point relative to the Earth's surface should be comparable with the Earth's radius (~6,000 km) in order to display the Earth's curvature the way you see.

I am talking about these "photos" being a complete fraud.

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PostThu Oct 06, 2011 2:17 pm » by Blotto


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PostThu Oct 06, 2011 2:31 pm » by Frutty


If anybody is further interested in confirming the photos/footage published by the media attributed to shuttles and ISSs that seem taken from a sci fi film, are a fraud here is a graphic framework for you to work, just derive the conic section on top.

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