So what's the most positive thing we can imagine?

Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:38 am » by **Samuelthemule**

I was thinking: we know things are bad, let's make them better.

wicked men hide when no one follows

there are plenty of people who have given themselves over to dark powers.
let's not follow in their footsteps.

We have tremendous power at our fingertips, and if we ally with the forces of light, we really can make a difference and bring change to this place.

With every breath we in and exhale, we create reality as we go along.

we all contribute.

so, what is the ABSOLUTE BEST THING we can imagine creating, together?

i'm gonna start small:

really listening to one another to create a space to be understood.

really looking for beauty and hope in everything: an up lifting experience
instead of the same, day-in-day-out terror and depression: "freeman" from the freeman show said "I think we're all addicted to doom & fear porn" I would have to agree. It's an adrenaline rush, it's exhilerating, but, it leads no where, fast.

what are some positive things you guys can think of?

I'm all ears

:sunny:

the love of christ be with you

Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:39 pm » by **Malkere**

summary: an Earth so permeated with light and love that evil and darkness can no longer even gaze upon us.

Heaven is about the best my poor noggin can handle. But I'll have to give some explanation to go with that...

First of all, Heaven isn't a place, so there aren't actual boundaries, though there are gates and a sort of sides that aren't necessarily "accessible" from outside. It doesn't have a basic shape so this whole initial explanation is really something beyond Human comprehension.

Second of all, though this has to do somewhat with my first point, is the fact that there is enough light and "space" for everyone to have their "own" heaven. This means that some people spend their time learning in group amidst roman pillars and purple skies, while others spend their time driving endless roads of all weathers in fast cars of all types. Some times the soul needs to relax, needs a little breather to mend its wounds and recuperate; no one is chastised for this.

Next we have why it's so great: Heaven is inhabitable to darkness. We have a saying here on Earth "There can be no light without darkness." But this does not hold true in Heaven and many realms above it even more incomprehensible. There are no fights, arguments, deaths, pain, murder, etc. The ego calls that "boring" but it's actually far from it. Humans are possessed daily in this realm, manipulated, pained, and pushed in the wrong direction as the only real power evil has over most of the populace is deception. This is the cause of all suffering, and one of the focal points of this dimension. Not in Heaven, zero darkness, all love. That doesn't mean everyone sits around and gawks at God all day ZZZ, nor that evil doesn't attack frequently and there are many reasons to continue to act, learn, and be; but it is basically everything anyone could ever wish for, because it goes above and beyond any "thing" or "want".

Again I direct you to the movie "The Lovely Bones" if you haven't seen it. The spend their free time (most of the time) quite as they wish in the afterlife.
Happy to answer questions, though looking forward to more interesting responses than mine.

Personally? My Heaven would be like Lord of The Rings, lots of dark souls in need of banishing and lot's of foreign ladies to save. Sword and sorcery and dragons and all that jazz. Eat a mushroom to gain a life, etc.

Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:13 pm » by **Tertiusgaudens**

I imagine something.
Since I imagine I imagine, I can also imagine I imagine I imagine and probably so forth.
Imaging I imagine is thinking I imagine.
Imaging something positive differs from imaging something negative.
Imaging I imagine somethig positive is the same than imaging I imagine something negative, for both is an Imagination of an imagination thus being an imagination of a thinking.
Actually there is no positive or negative thinking, but only thinking, when it comes to thinking about thinking.
Thinking about a thing can be positive, if the thing hits the thinking in a way of loving the thing.
And it can be negative, if the thing hits thinking in a way of keeping the thing away of hitting the thinking.
Thinking is not a thing, but a thing being in flow into thinking.
Therefore thing and thinking are relatives.
So thinking about thinking is not like thinking about a thing.
It is rather a movement of thinking while being in thinking and thus thinking as thinking.
Here is no positive or negative, but only thinking as thinking.

I come to a conclusion.

Since I often do not know, whether I think about a thing or thinking (or an imagination), I am trapped in an existence, in which I do not really know positive or negative. Furthermore, positive or negative are terms of relations to things, but not preliminary existential constituents.

From there I find freedom not to think positive in all ways, nor does my thinking about an ultimate source depend on any positive perception.

I consider positive and negative as contemporary and changing moods of perception, not more.

Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:40 pm » by **Onroot**

quit living in fear. Love people and quit worrying about irrelevant shit like whose balling kimk you think she cares about anyone but herself? Stop trying to be and elitist when your on foodstamps.oh yeah wicked men dont hide when no ones listening they just find other idiots to use their spiel on. so yeah one positive thing would be to convince people who they really are,it will never happen everyone now days is part of some prestigeous secret society and can tell you every detail of last nights meeting even though they never attended it.

Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:03 pm » by **Constabul**

Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:10 pm » by **The57ironman**

lighting a small candle in a darkened room , makes darkness go away...

you cannot bring darkness into a lit room...

i imagine light ....

Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:14 pm » by **Nakchopoe**

I imagine the whole world dancing on some really great music, celebrating diversity, while the sun is setting, the work of the day has been done, everyone has been fed well, nature grows abundantly to provide food for the next day and the days to come, the temperature is between 20 and 25 Celsius (so we won't feel cold, but wont sweat off our asses either) and nobody is afraid to hug anyone else.

Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:48 pm » by **Opalserpent**

The greatest thing I can imagine besides world peace and real democracy and transparency is holding the new ps vita. I'm an overgrown gamer now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Vita

just drool over the specs in the right hand corner list.
Yes I'm a pawn of evil corporations, I know. They got me early.

Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:26 pm » by **Bettyboolean**

opalserpent wrote:The greatest thing I can imagine besides world peace and real democracy and transparency is holding the new ps vita. I'm an overgrown gamer now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Vita

just drool over the specs in the right hand corner list.
Yes I'm a pawn of evil corporations, I know. They got me early.

there will be neither world peace or real democracy while you continue to suckle at the teat for this kinda crap hombre

Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:31 pm » by **528hz**

I imagine thinking with our hearts and not our minds.