So Who Really Helped The Maya Create That Calender and Why?
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Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:01 pm » by Savwafair2012
As many of you already know, the Maya Long Count calendar restarts on the precise day of the winter solstice of 2012. Since this calendar was put into use over two thousand years ago, our first question is this: How did they hit this exact day from such a long time ago? As we will soon see, in order to intentionally hit the winter solstice, they would have needed to know the length of the year to within 45 seconds. This is like measuring the width of the United States to within 20 feet or the distance from Los Angeles to Tokyo to within 40 feet! In terms of a percentage, this is 99.9999 percent correct! In my opinion, this is not merely remarkable; this is absolutely stunning! Is it possible that the ancient Maya did this without telescopes or sophisticated instruments?
But before we dig into that, we should back up a little bit and ask ourselves if the Maya did indeed intentionally hit the winter solstice or if this correlation is just a coincidence. In this regard, please consider this. If the Maya were Christian and the calendar restarted on Christmas day, we would know for sure that that was intentional; it would be obvious. When we consider the culture of the Maya, we learn that they considered the winter solstice to be one of the most important days of the year. It was celebrated as a rebirth of the sun since the length of the day starts to grow longer. So it seems to me that this correlation was intentional. And when we learn more about the astronomy that will unfold on this exact day, the case that this was intentional will become even stronger.
And to back up a little bit further, let me quickly address the claim that some people make that the calendar restarts on a completely different day. The academic community studied this problem in great detail from 1905 to 1950 and it is beyond a reasonable doubt that the calendar does indeed restart exactly on the winter solstice of 2012. This study is called the correlation project and John Mayor Jenkins offers plenty of information about this on his website.
Now, given that the Maya did indeed hit this date intentionally, the next obvious question is this: Why? Why would a date over two thousand years in their future capture the attention of the Maya and inspire them to create a calendar that counts every single day, one by one, until that special day? And please note that there are over 730,000 days in that two thousand year period! That's a lot of counting! Why bother with something so far away?
The Maya Long Count Calendar Is Astronomical in Nature
That the answer to this question is primarily astronomical in nature is supported by two important clues. First, the calendar restarts on the winter solstice, an astronomical event. Second, the overall length of the calendar is related to the precession of the earth, another astronomical phenomenon. Precession is the very slow wobble of the earth. Remember, the earth is spinning on its axis and this axis of rotation is tilted. When we observe the direction that this axis is pointing, we see that the entire earth wobbles like a top that is not standing straight up. Again, this is called precession and it takes about 26,000 years for the earth to complete one wobble. By the way, this 26,000-year period is sometimes called “the great year.”
Now, the overall length of the Long Count calendar is 5,125 years and the Maya referred to this overall cycle as a “World Age.” It just so happens that five World Ages add up to the length of the precessional cycle to within less than one percent and the Maya talk about all five World Ages. Their symbol for all five World Ages consists of a five-pointed star with a circle around it; the circle indicates that it is a repetitive cycle that continues forever since after the fifth World Age it just starts over again with the first cycle.
Mayan Five-Pointed Star
So now we see that the Long Count calendar clearly has some very significant astronomical aspects. It seems to me that the Maya are saying, “Yes, we understand the year and yes, we understand the great year. We have extremely precise values for both.” The next obvious question is this: Is there more astronomy that will unfold on the exact day of the winter solstice of 2012 that the Maya would have considered important? The answer is an emphatic yes! Let's take a look at it right now.
Why Did the Maya Picked 2012?
One Reason is the Triple Rebirth of the Sun
The screenshot below is from my astronomy program and it shows why I think the Maya picked the exact day of the winter solstice of 2012.
Here we see a large cross in the sky right over the Maya at high noon with the sun virtually right in the middle of this cross. This is what the Maya called “the sacred tree” and it is a very important motif in their folklore. When I first saw this image on my computer screen, I just about fell out of my chair! This is absolutely amazing!
By the way, please note that this is not the peak of what John Mayor Jenkins calls “the galactic alignment,” which already happened in 1998. I really like some of John's work but I don't think that the Maya missed what they were aiming at by 14 years. I think that they hit exactly what they wanted: the sacred tree over the Maya precisely on this special day.
This image might not mean very much to you right now, but when you understand what it means metaphorically to the Maya, there is a good chance that you will be much more impressed. I cover this in more detail in my YouTube video titled, “Why the Maya Picked 2012,” but for right now, I will only briefly mention that the Maya considered the sun in the middle of the dark rift to be a type of solar rebirth. The large ball of stars in this region of the sky was seen as the pregnant belly of the mother of creation and the dark rift was seen as the birth canal. So when the sun was seen in the dark rift, it was considered a solar rebirth. The Maya also considered the winter solstice and the daily sunrise as two more types of solar rebirths so this means that on December 21, 2012, we have a triple rebirth of the sun. I refer to these three rebirths as the daily rebirth, the solstice rebirth and the galactic rebirth. We have a triple rebirth of the sun when all three rebirths happen on the same calendar day.
The Astronomy Is Being Used To Point to a Timeless Metaphor of Rebirth
Again, this is what will be in the sky right over the Maya on this special day. It is very clear that this astronomy is being used as the foundation of the Maya's most important metaphor: the metaphor of transformation and rebirth. Indeed, it seems to me that the metaphor of transformation and rebirth is the Maya's favorite subject! And it is extremely important to note that this rebirth metaphor and the astronomy that it is based on are symbolically carved in stone in the Maya's sacred ceremonial site in Izapa, Mexico, the birthplace of their Long Count calendar. This can only mean that these things are held in the highest regard.
And yes, I cannot emphasize enough that it is my opinion that the importance of this astronomical event is as a metaphor, not as something that will cause anything unusual to happen to us, either good or bad, physical or spiritual. I know that many 2012 researchers claim that something important is going to happen to us in or near the time of 2012 but I simply don't see the calendar as pointing to something that is literally predestined, other than the astronomy. Metaphors were much more important to the Maya because metaphors, not literal stories, were used to convey spiritual beliefs. This special day contains an astronomical symbol of transformation and rebirth, yet 2012 is not the time when this rebirth will happen to us. This transformation happens for each of us individually when our personal circumstances are favorable for that awakening.
If I write a poem about enlightenment and spiritual awakening and use the sunrise as a metaphor since that is the event that fills our dark world with light and we are all awakened from our physical slumber, the poem should be taken as a reminder that spiritual awakening is possible in a general sense. It certainly should not be understood to say that we are all going to become enlightened during the next sunrise, although that may happen. If people focus on the event of the sunrise because they think enlightenment will happen because of that event, they will have missed the point of the poem. The same thing is true for the sacred triple rebirth of the sun in 2012. It is a reminder that we can all awaken to a new spiritual level at any moment. Focus on the concept of spiritual rebirth, not the time of the event that was used as the basis of the rebirth metaphor.
So even though I don't think that the Maya believed that the astronomy was going to cause anything unusual to happen, they still found it to be extremely important metaphorically. The core meaning of this metaphor is what captured the attention of the Maya 2,000 years ago, not merely the time of 2012, which was too far away from them to be relevant.
Link to the rest
http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/RazzetoT2.php?p=5
But before we dig into that, we should back up a little bit and ask ourselves if the Maya did indeed intentionally hit the winter solstice or if this correlation is just a coincidence. In this regard, please consider this. If the Maya were Christian and the calendar restarted on Christmas day, we would know for sure that that was intentional; it would be obvious. When we consider the culture of the Maya, we learn that they considered the winter solstice to be one of the most important days of the year. It was celebrated as a rebirth of the sun since the length of the day starts to grow longer. So it seems to me that this correlation was intentional. And when we learn more about the astronomy that will unfold on this exact day, the case that this was intentional will become even stronger.
And to back up a little bit further, let me quickly address the claim that some people make that the calendar restarts on a completely different day. The academic community studied this problem in great detail from 1905 to 1950 and it is beyond a reasonable doubt that the calendar does indeed restart exactly on the winter solstice of 2012. This study is called the correlation project and John Mayor Jenkins offers plenty of information about this on his website.
Now, given that the Maya did indeed hit this date intentionally, the next obvious question is this: Why? Why would a date over two thousand years in their future capture the attention of the Maya and inspire them to create a calendar that counts every single day, one by one, until that special day? And please note that there are over 730,000 days in that two thousand year period! That's a lot of counting! Why bother with something so far away?
The Maya Long Count Calendar Is Astronomical in Nature
That the answer to this question is primarily astronomical in nature is supported by two important clues. First, the calendar restarts on the winter solstice, an astronomical event. Second, the overall length of the calendar is related to the precession of the earth, another astronomical phenomenon. Precession is the very slow wobble of the earth. Remember, the earth is spinning on its axis and this axis of rotation is tilted. When we observe the direction that this axis is pointing, we see that the entire earth wobbles like a top that is not standing straight up. Again, this is called precession and it takes about 26,000 years for the earth to complete one wobble. By the way, this 26,000-year period is sometimes called “the great year.”
Now, the overall length of the Long Count calendar is 5,125 years and the Maya referred to this overall cycle as a “World Age.” It just so happens that five World Ages add up to the length of the precessional cycle to within less than one percent and the Maya talk about all five World Ages. Their symbol for all five World Ages consists of a five-pointed star with a circle around it; the circle indicates that it is a repetitive cycle that continues forever since after the fifth World Age it just starts over again with the first cycle.
Mayan Five-Pointed Star
So now we see that the Long Count calendar clearly has some very significant astronomical aspects. It seems to me that the Maya are saying, “Yes, we understand the year and yes, we understand the great year. We have extremely precise values for both.” The next obvious question is this: Is there more astronomy that will unfold on the exact day of the winter solstice of 2012 that the Maya would have considered important? The answer is an emphatic yes! Let's take a look at it right now.
Why Did the Maya Picked 2012?
One Reason is the Triple Rebirth of the Sun
The screenshot below is from my astronomy program and it shows why I think the Maya picked the exact day of the winter solstice of 2012.
Here we see a large cross in the sky right over the Maya at high noon with the sun virtually right in the middle of this cross. This is what the Maya called “the sacred tree” and it is a very important motif in their folklore. When I first saw this image on my computer screen, I just about fell out of my chair! This is absolutely amazing!
By the way, please note that this is not the peak of what John Mayor Jenkins calls “the galactic alignment,” which already happened in 1998. I really like some of John's work but I don't think that the Maya missed what they were aiming at by 14 years. I think that they hit exactly what they wanted: the sacred tree over the Maya precisely on this special day.
This image might not mean very much to you right now, but when you understand what it means metaphorically to the Maya, there is a good chance that you will be much more impressed. I cover this in more detail in my YouTube video titled, “Why the Maya Picked 2012,” but for right now, I will only briefly mention that the Maya considered the sun in the middle of the dark rift to be a type of solar rebirth. The large ball of stars in this region of the sky was seen as the pregnant belly of the mother of creation and the dark rift was seen as the birth canal. So when the sun was seen in the dark rift, it was considered a solar rebirth. The Maya also considered the winter solstice and the daily sunrise as two more types of solar rebirths so this means that on December 21, 2012, we have a triple rebirth of the sun. I refer to these three rebirths as the daily rebirth, the solstice rebirth and the galactic rebirth. We have a triple rebirth of the sun when all three rebirths happen on the same calendar day.
The Astronomy Is Being Used To Point to a Timeless Metaphor of Rebirth
Again, this is what will be in the sky right over the Maya on this special day. It is very clear that this astronomy is being used as the foundation of the Maya's most important metaphor: the metaphor of transformation and rebirth. Indeed, it seems to me that the metaphor of transformation and rebirth is the Maya's favorite subject! And it is extremely important to note that this rebirth metaphor and the astronomy that it is based on are symbolically carved in stone in the Maya's sacred ceremonial site in Izapa, Mexico, the birthplace of their Long Count calendar. This can only mean that these things are held in the highest regard.
And yes, I cannot emphasize enough that it is my opinion that the importance of this astronomical event is as a metaphor, not as something that will cause anything unusual to happen to us, either good or bad, physical or spiritual. I know that many 2012 researchers claim that something important is going to happen to us in or near the time of 2012 but I simply don't see the calendar as pointing to something that is literally predestined, other than the astronomy. Metaphors were much more important to the Maya because metaphors, not literal stories, were used to convey spiritual beliefs. This special day contains an astronomical symbol of transformation and rebirth, yet 2012 is not the time when this rebirth will happen to us. This transformation happens for each of us individually when our personal circumstances are favorable for that awakening.
If I write a poem about enlightenment and spiritual awakening and use the sunrise as a metaphor since that is the event that fills our dark world with light and we are all awakened from our physical slumber, the poem should be taken as a reminder that spiritual awakening is possible in a general sense. It certainly should not be understood to say that we are all going to become enlightened during the next sunrise, although that may happen. If people focus on the event of the sunrise because they think enlightenment will happen because of that event, they will have missed the point of the poem. The same thing is true for the sacred triple rebirth of the sun in 2012. It is a reminder that we can all awaken to a new spiritual level at any moment. Focus on the concept of spiritual rebirth, not the time of the event that was used as the basis of the rebirth metaphor.
So even though I don't think that the Maya believed that the astronomy was going to cause anything unusual to happen, they still found it to be extremely important metaphorically. The core meaning of this metaphor is what captured the attention of the Maya 2,000 years ago, not merely the time of 2012, which was too far away from them to be relevant.
Link to the rest
http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/RazzetoT2.php?p=5
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Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:05 pm » by Nyarelathodep
You cannot understand the long count without regarding the Tzolkin calendar as its equal companion...it is only half of a whole.
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Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:11 pm » by Newdawnrising
The calendar existed before the Mayan Empire, they inherited and continued it's use. Most likely due to knowing, if it's right and not broken, then don't fix it. Imo, this alone is proof to the calendars validity.
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Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:22 pm » by Nyarelathodep
Well worth your time. If you are patient enough, you will be absolutely amazed. If you are observant enough you will see the flaw. If you are perceptive enough, you will see that the flaw is irrelavant and that the content holds true regardless.
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Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:25 pm » by Savwafair2012
Wow Thanks for this I don't have time now while at work and all however I will get back to this
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Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:33 pm » by Iamthatiam
Good subject of discussion mates....will be following this thread 
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