So You've Woken Up...Now What?

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PostMon Aug 26, 2013 2:07 am » by Phoenix rising


@ Middleman

If we're ever going to win this war against the breakaway civilization, or the hidden elite, or whatever you want to call them, its going to require a big tent. If you're going to refuse entry to anyone who doesn't have a tattoo of Ayn Rand on their taint, how can you possibly expect to win?


Thats the problem with breakaway civilisations, they were once part of the problem and no doubt the instigators of many of them so how dare they now take the moral stance against what they have left behind, i'd hate to think these guys will be the seeds of a corrupt system start up another one
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PostMon Aug 26, 2013 3:47 am » by Temps13


Just was listening to Credo Mutwa..what he done when he realised what was going on with et etc..after his 1959 abduction experience,if you believe him,he went & tried eating a piece of dead et..
At this point I was grinning,thinking of that film district 9 where the black chief wanted to eat sharlto copley's ..et arm that had grown
Well I guess Im just going to keep getting as much details as possible on the real history of Earth..& the current situation..
Maybe do a web site or write a book? do some art? some activism? Try to stop eating poisoned food & drinking poisoned water? be more self sufficient,be less of a consumer?

Ideally escape to fuckin northern finland before the plague comes..its coming..get away from civilization..fuck off underground?
How far you think you need to go? We are house apes..
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PostMon Aug 26, 2013 9:43 am » by Middleman


SolStone wrote: I am sorry...


Cheers mate. I'm sorry if I was rude in return.

Phoenix Raises an interesting point about how to deal with this hidden elite in the event that they are fully exposed, or their remnants in the event of them successfully migrating off world.

I tend to favour amnesty in return for cooperation and a truth and reconciliation process of some kind, but that position assumes that we'll be in such deep shit that we we'll need to be magnanimous as a practical matter. I understand I'm probably within the minority on that.

Still, it's worth remembering that we most likely already have allies within that elite, and the best way to expose and fight the breakaway civilization in general is by further splintering them into smaller and smaller factions, which will fight each other.

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PostMon Aug 26, 2013 7:05 pm » by SolStone


The only way I know of that all persons under all governments can unify themselves in non-violent action, would be pulling the rug out from under the unstoppable giant (stop paying taxes) and allow its own momentum to bring itself to the ground.

Middleman wrote:I tend to favour amnesty in return for cooperation and a truth and reconciliation process of some kind, but that position assumes that we'll be in such deep shit that we we'll need to be magnanimous as a practical matter. I understand I'm probably within the minority on that.

Still, it's worth remembering that we most likely already have allies within that elite, and the best way to expose and fight the breakaway civilization in general is by further splintering them into smaller and smaller factions, which will fight each other.


I agree and do not feel that vengeance is a necessity. There are many who have been wronged that will feel differently and I cannot argue against their convictions; I too have been wronged, but the circle of violence must be broken somewhere.

I know my view is not popular, but I feel every person living in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and England is guilty because at some level we know our governments are not doing what they should be (to what extent varies on the individual). We are all guilty in my eyes, and I don't think more punishment is what this world needs.

After the system collapses the former-parasites will be forced to spend the remainder of their years blending in with the people they raped, murdered, and stole from their entire lives. For the first times in their lives they will have to learn to produce for society - that is hell enough for persons of that mentality, and not a future any of them will enjoy.

If others have methods they believe would aide in non-violent means of goodwill, please share.

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PostMon Aug 26, 2013 9:40 pm » by Toxic32


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Many people ask about this or something similar so here’s some thoughts on the subject. I don’t mean to tell anyone what to do, as that’s completely contrary to consciousness and conscious development, but I will share my understandings at this point and my passion for Truth and you can do what you like with it.

Question:

“What do you say to people who have woken up but can’t leave the system because of family and friends?”

This and those like it pose a very broad question since we’re all different and need to be led of our own convictions. However, the answer is fundamentally similar in every case. Do what consciousness tells you.

There’s really no time for fiddling around once you’ve found what you know to be the Truth, which is always something clearly outside the realm of what you’ve been indoctrinated with. It’s always life altering. And if it isn’t, you didn’t hear correctly or it fell on deaf ears.

I don’t want to be counted amongst the deaf or unresponsive. Do you?

Especially when you found out that that’s exactly what perpetrates the big lie you found out about–a compliant, non-awake populace.

System Dependence is the Name of the Game

That’s the trouble with the “system”, it teaches dependency, hierarchy, and rote knowledge, where your choices are carefully narrowed down to “acceptable” alternatives within carefully confined parameters.

That’s why people feel like fish out of water when they wake up. They never learned how to truly think freely, nor did they have the knowledge tools. Instead, most everything was reversed, scrambled, confused and filed away in seeming useless obscurity.

The result is not just a marginalization of empowering Truths into the catch-all dustbins of “conspiracy theory” or wing nut stuff, but worse yet, the system does not cultivate original thought or true personal freedom or responsibility.

The real Truth is not an option in such a controlled environment. Oh, you get smatterings of truths, but drawing awake and aware conclusions is not an option to humanity’s would be Controllers.

The Wake Up Starts with a Bang But You Have to Keep It Going

When someone awakens to the true nature of the manipulated world we live in, as well as the vast resources at our immediate conscious fingertips, it takes some doing to fully realize what that information means, as well as the vast implications on your personal life.

It can hit hard and may need some time to be digested. How it affects each of us individually is really a question of simply putting what we’ve learned into action and trusting the Universe for the consequences.

I don’t think there’s time for much else. In fact, there never has been.

If you know the Truth, what are you waiting for?

While many are hoping for some kind of soft-pedaling of any kind of action call, it’s not a set formula. You just find out, and you react. And just that takes some doing, breaking off the rust of your True Self to animate and start to call the shots that were previously hindered by life long programming.

Stages of Development

For me the full wake up took on many stages of development, but the full blown realization of the vast extent of the manipulated lie and its fleshed out intricacies was a head splitting explosion that blew me past the pull of convention’s gravity so fast I’m still grinning from ear to ear as I zip through the universe..ha!

The point there being, the wake up takes on many forms and evolves. What gives the wake up traction is commitment, putting feet to your realizations.

You think TV’s bad? Turn it off. Banks are a rip off? Get out except for perhaps necessary operating funds if need be. Trapped by the ownership of housing, “might needs”, and all kinds of dumb stuff?

Dump everything you can, if that’s your understanding. Knowing “stuff owns you” is fundamental to consciousness. We all get there, but it depends on our enthusiasm…or “spirit in us”.

How many respond to just that?

Do What You Know or Face Confusion

Until people put into action what they already know, there isn’t gonna be much more to follow for them. Just a lot of flailing about in frustration because we don’t do what we already know we should do and are looking for excuses or compromised solutions to assuage our guilty conscience and hopefully preserve our personal status quo.

Sad, but true.

That also includes getting right with people, making relationships honest, and disengaging from situations of compromise. It takes courage.

Know You Are Nobody–Yet Everybody

All this is a whole lot easier when you realize you are nobody. There’s nothing to defend.

Your old senses of self were the very strings the lying matrix played upon. Get conscious and the sirens of the system don’t affect you except peripherally.That’s a biggie.

Conscious awareness is number one realizing and seeing through the higher level of awareness that is detached from this life’s experiences, and thus free to discern and identify without attachment what your life experience is.Seeing through those eyes will bring tremendous peace and understanding.

Get Along But Don’t Compromise

Don’t fret the next steps. If the universe is so vast and full of infinite possibilities there’s going to be something for everybody. Our job is to find it and when we find it, act on it. No, it’s not the “safe” way, or the “accepted” way.

At all. We do have to break free.

In reality the parasitic system has been sucking you dry and lying to you and everyone you love. You now no longer owe it any allegiance and can and should disengage any and every way you can. No guilt trip necessary. You are doing what is right.

Period.

And that is not contingent on relationships, financial security, self image concerns, or what have you.

So get any and all attachments possible out of play. Happily. You are freeing yourself from the spider’s tentacles.

There’s Real Peace in Commitment

When you’ve resolved to go ahead and “make the break” with convention and stand up for what you know is right, it leads to a new lifestyle. How do you think these wonderful websites were formed of like-minded people who found each other and decided to make an impact with videos, interviews, articles, participation in events, etc?

How were Gandhi, Martin Luther King or other world Truth bearers including the present day alternative luminaries birthed from their previous lives?

Something gelled, made total sense, resonated, and they just committed. These Truth enthusiasts on the internet also somehow found each other and it clicked. It’s all about responding to the need and call and openly networking…true response-ability.

The Truth Glasses

I read this fantastic analogy and it’s never escaped me.

Finding out the whole truth is like putting on these amazing Truth glasses, much like the movie “They Live”.

Here’s how they work:#1. You gotta want to put them on.#2. You can’t force someone else to put them on.#3. Once they’re on, you can’t take them off.

If you’ve found and put on the glasses, that will make total sense. If you haven’t, keep searching.

Let your heart lead you.

In the words of Lao Tsu:

At the center of your being you have the answer; you know who you are and you know what you want.

Love, Zen


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Not all wake up to the sound of an alarm. The blast of reality that demands attention. On reflection I must have been blessed with. I spent my early teenage years growing up with two good friends who had inquiring minds. Our idea of having a good time was not as it seems today. No drugs not even alcohol and girls were still the real aliens.

Our drugs was knowledge understanding and reason. The enemy was lack of time. I used to get into bed drunk with new ideas, fascinated with a new understanding and longing to find out more. Each question answered was a new look into a reality that yesterday was a darkened room.

Life is an opportunity to learn. If you are lucky you will find solace in knowing your place in the universe. You may even see the mist on the mirror and wipe your hand across the surface and wakeup to the realisation that what you thought was there, is in fact a just a thin coating of lies. You still don't see the truth just the recognition that truth is available to those that want to find it.

Your journey just began. Without you even knowing it. You took a step forward and slipped on the ice of understanding. It's not to late too save your self, reach out and find anonymity in the nothingness of the herd. Go back to sheep.

Have a happy life and be at peace with your self and enjoy the rest of your journey. Do what you can to enlighten others, but don't get frustrated at ignorance. For some. Some times it just best not too know.
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PostTue Aug 27, 2013 1:18 am » by Opalserpent


You've woken up and won a spot on the U.S. Main Core list to be placed in a fema camp in the future near you!!!

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PostSat Aug 31, 2013 8:40 am » by Schizotoxin


Phoenix rising wrote:Sol there is no 'Now What'.... for many of us when we have reached the stage of 'now what' we have become somewhat isolated, just be content with the fact you are different to the rest, you have an open mind and an open heart, there are those who say you are so open minded you brain will fall out but i for one would rather think outside the box than in it, 'now what' is just the beginning of the journey, carry on the journey my friend while the rest contend with one dimensional thinking


Exactly how I feel, each individual on there own personal journal, perhaps in time more of us will be prevalent to make a larger difference. This site is great, gives all of us a place to show we are not the only ones, even if we disagree on certain things, that's the best 'now what' I can think of.
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PostSat Aug 31, 2013 9:09 am » by Data


I think the hardest bit would be the addiction to money. Not everyone is a mountaineer. However those of us that are could easily break away from that given enough time and being left alone, The system polices that. You can't just plunk down any old place anymore and start building. You have to pay for it. So it is my contention unless your rich already and have some form of safety net incase (you know so your family doesn't go homeless) then your pretty much stuck, at least to a degree.

I agree the best way to take down a monster is to remove its tentacles from you as best as possible. Taking into consideration we might not get em all out at first. This is the pacifistic way of thinking about it and I feel would work if the people running "the system" were also pacifistic as well.

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PostSat Aug 31, 2013 9:58 am » by Opalserpent


Akashicrebel wrote:good post. the whole awakening thing was very hard at first. I totaly forgot about my own happiness, and just when it was really bad (my wife culdnt stand my misurable face,3month no smiling?WTF??)then I found DTV forum. and some of the members here-have reminded me about my real old religious. the laughing religious. since then-it's all cool. THE HOUSE OF THE AWAKENING LMFAO SOULS. DTV. :flop:



I notice your not using demonic avatars either now. :pray:
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PostSat Aug 31, 2013 10:11 am » by Opalserpent


Data wrote:I think the hardest bit would be the addiction to money. Not everyone is a mountaineer. However those of us that are could easily break away from that given enough time and being left alone, The system polices that. You can't just plunk down any old place anymore and start building. You have to pay for it. So it is my contention unless your rich already and have some form of safety net incase (you know so your family doesn't go homeless) then your pretty much stuck, at least to a degree.

I agree the best way to take down a monster is to remove its tentacles from you as best as possible. Taking into consideration we might not get em all out at first. This is the pacifistic way of thinking about it and I feel would work if the people running "the system" were also pacifistic as well.



Man, Data was my teenage hero next to Arnold.

Even Data could kick Wolverines Ass!!! :alien51:


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Im sorry data, I know you could study wolverines weakspots and use your super strength
and downloadable 10 dan kungfu belt training program to work out possibly
thousands of solutions for taking care of wolverine: :pray:

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