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This is an awesome vid about the Oort Cloud which surrounds our solar system and the growing evidence that we belong to a binary star system.



2003 UB313 (XENA)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4667100.stm
"Theories for the formation of our Solar System imply there could be objects as big as Mars out there," commented Professor Alan Fitzsimmons, from Queen's University Belfast.
This is an awesome vid about the Oort Cloud which surrounds our solar system and the growing evidence that we belong to a binary star system.



2003 UB313 (XENA)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4667100.stm
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The Nemesis companion star, if the theory is right could also caused and explain all the "Periodic Mass Extinctions Events" on earth when it hits the Oort Cloud at regular intervals of time.





If Nemesis or Nibiru exists, it may be detected by the planned Pan-STARRS or LSST astronomical surveys, or similar future projects. If Nemesis is a brown dwarf, as proposed by Dr. Dan Whitmire and Albert A. Jackson IV, then the upcoming WISE mission (scheduled for November 2009) should easily find it.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v3 ... 715a0.html



If Nemesis or Nibiru exists, it may be detected by the planned Pan-STARRS or LSST astronomical surveys, or similar future projects. If Nemesis is a brown dwarf, as proposed by Dr. Dan Whitmire and Albert A. Jackson IV, then the upcoming WISE mission (scheduled for November 2009) should easily find it.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v3 ... 715a0.html
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Star Systems Hint at Possibility of Sun's Nemesis

The left disk is seen face-on. The narrow disk on the right is tipped nearly edge-on from our point of view. The black central circles are produced by the camera's coronagraph, which blocks out the star so its fainter surroundings can be imaged. Credit: NASA, ESA, and P. Kalas (University of California, Berkeley)
Debris disks discovered around two nearby stars look strikingly like the Kuiper Belt in the outer part of our solar system, astronomers said today. The disks were found in a survey of 22 Sun-like stars by the Hubble Space Telescope. By blocking out light from the central stars, Hubble was able to image dust and other material around the stars. The stars are about 60 light-years away, and the shape of their disks have astronomers pondering the long-debated possibility that our own Sun might have an as-yet unfound companion dubbed Nemesis.
Unseen companions?
Each of the two disks has a sharp outer edge that might be caused by an unseen companion star that gravitationally grooms the material. Our own Kuiper Belt, which contains comets, Pluto and other frozen worlds, is thought to have similarly abrupt outer bound. Unlike younger stars with debris disks-thought to be the stuff of planet formation-these two stars are more than 300 million years old. Things have likely settled into somewhat stable configurations with planets and well-defined debris streams, perhaps similar to our own solar system, which is now 4.6 billion years old. The small sampling of debris disks that have been discovered shows they fall into two categories: those with a broad belt, wider than about 50 astronomical units (AU); and narrow ones with a width of between 20 and 30 AU and a sharp outer boundary, probably like our own Kuiper Belt. An astronomical unit, or AU, is the average distance between the Earth and Sun, about 93 million miles. Our Kuiper Belt is thought to be narrow, extending from the orbit of Neptune at 30 AU to about 50 AU. Most of the handful of known stellar debris disks seem to have a central area cleared of debris, perhaps by planets.
Sun's Nemesis?
Kalas and Graham speculate that stars also having sharp outer edges to their debris disks have a companion-a star or brown dwarf-that keeps the disk from spreading outward, similar to how Saturn's moons shape the edges of some of the planet's rings. "The story of how you make a ring around a planet could be the same as the story of making rings around a star," Kalas said. Perhaps a passing star ripped off the edges of the original planetary disk, but a star-sized companion, remaining in place, would be necessary to keep the remaining disk material from spreading outward, he figures.
The scenario has Kalas and his colleagues thinking that the Sun might also have a companion that keeps the Kuiper Belt confined within a sharp boundary. U.C. Berkeley physics professor Richard Muller has proposed such a star, which he calls Nemesis, but no evidence has been found for one. "These are the types of stars around which you would expect to find habitable zones and planets that could develop life," said lead researcher Paul Kalas of the University of California, Berkeley. The findings will be reported in the Jan. 20 issue of Astrophysical Journal Letters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(star)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A410941
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0 ... stars.html

The left disk is seen face-on. The narrow disk on the right is tipped nearly edge-on from our point of view. The black central circles are produced by the camera's coronagraph, which blocks out the star so its fainter surroundings can be imaged. Credit: NASA, ESA, and P. Kalas (University of California, Berkeley)
Debris disks discovered around two nearby stars look strikingly like the Kuiper Belt in the outer part of our solar system, astronomers said today. The disks were found in a survey of 22 Sun-like stars by the Hubble Space Telescope. By blocking out light from the central stars, Hubble was able to image dust and other material around the stars. The stars are about 60 light-years away, and the shape of their disks have astronomers pondering the long-debated possibility that our own Sun might have an as-yet unfound companion dubbed Nemesis.
Unseen companions?
Each of the two disks has a sharp outer edge that might be caused by an unseen companion star that gravitationally grooms the material. Our own Kuiper Belt, which contains comets, Pluto and other frozen worlds, is thought to have similarly abrupt outer bound. Unlike younger stars with debris disks-thought to be the stuff of planet formation-these two stars are more than 300 million years old. Things have likely settled into somewhat stable configurations with planets and well-defined debris streams, perhaps similar to our own solar system, which is now 4.6 billion years old. The small sampling of debris disks that have been discovered shows they fall into two categories: those with a broad belt, wider than about 50 astronomical units (AU); and narrow ones with a width of between 20 and 30 AU and a sharp outer boundary, probably like our own Kuiper Belt. An astronomical unit, or AU, is the average distance between the Earth and Sun, about 93 million miles. Our Kuiper Belt is thought to be narrow, extending from the orbit of Neptune at 30 AU to about 50 AU. Most of the handful of known stellar debris disks seem to have a central area cleared of debris, perhaps by planets.
Sun's Nemesis?
Kalas and Graham speculate that stars also having sharp outer edges to their debris disks have a companion-a star or brown dwarf-that keeps the disk from spreading outward, similar to how Saturn's moons shape the edges of some of the planet's rings. "The story of how you make a ring around a planet could be the same as the story of making rings around a star," Kalas said. Perhaps a passing star ripped off the edges of the original planetary disk, but a star-sized companion, remaining in place, would be necessary to keep the remaining disk material from spreading outward, he figures.
The scenario has Kalas and his colleagues thinking that the Sun might also have a companion that keeps the Kuiper Belt confined within a sharp boundary. U.C. Berkeley physics professor Richard Muller has proposed such a star, which he calls Nemesis, but no evidence has been found for one. "These are the types of stars around which you would expect to find habitable zones and planets that could develop life," said lead researcher Paul Kalas of the University of California, Berkeley. The findings will be reported in the Jan. 20 issue of Astrophysical Journal Letters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(star)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A410941
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0 ... stars.html
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"I don't know which me that I love.
Got no reflection."
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Got no reflection."
Maybe is true that we live in a binary star system,but for now is just a teory,I hope that this teory is wrong,but the life span of a normal human is so litle that maybe we never found out the true in this genaration.
Is also true that mass exticions did hapen in the past and go to hapen in the future,the only thing we can do is study the universe and try to be prepared for what is coming,iff not for us then for our kids and the kids of our kids,and all the future genarations.
I like this subjects,thanks Marduk,is this whant to learn that taked human race so far,the future no one can tell but in the past are clues for what go to hapen in the future,because at my eyes everything is a cycle what hapen in the past almost for shure go to hapen again in the future.
Peace brothers and sisters,never put your head down,keep it up,never close your self in some kind of belive,because if you do that than evolution stops.
Is also true that mass exticions did hapen in the past and go to hapen in the future,the only thing we can do is study the universe and try to be prepared for what is coming,iff not for us then for our kids and the kids of our kids,and all the future genarations.
I like this subjects,thanks Marduk,is this whant to learn that taked human race so far,the future no one can tell but in the past are clues for what go to hapen in the future,because at my eyes everything is a cycle what hapen in the past almost for shure go to hapen again in the future.
Peace brothers and sisters,never put your head down,keep it up,never close your self in some kind of belive,because if you do that than evolution stops.
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The Yin and The Yang
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/lifecynical.php
...................................................................................The Yin and The Yang
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/lifecynical.php
Damn glad you put your excellent research skills to use on this subject marduk.
If I had to take a guess based on the evidence we have I'd say its a brown dwarf not a red one.
What makes the brown dwarf far more interesting than the red dwarf is that the brown dwarf will in all likelihood have many moons some of which could be as large as the earth. Jupiter is the largest gas planet that we know of in our solar system. Imagine a gas giant 10-100 times larger..............thats a brown dwarf.
Because it is a failed star it would produce radiation and heat that would help its moons to have liquid water. So if you have a earth sized moon with liquid water................well just maybe you have nibiru.
If I had to take a guess based on the evidence we have I'd say its a brown dwarf not a red one.
What makes the brown dwarf far more interesting than the red dwarf is that the brown dwarf will in all likelihood have many moons some of which could be as large as the earth. Jupiter is the largest gas planet that we know of in our solar system. Imagine a gas giant 10-100 times larger..............thats a brown dwarf.
Because it is a failed star it would produce radiation and heat that would help its moons to have liquid water. So if you have a earth sized moon with liquid water................well just maybe you have nibiru.
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Like Wernher von Braun said:" There will be Asteroids...!"

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New Asteroid Secrecy

Information from military satellites about incoming asteroids has always been given to scientists in the past, but now the military has suddenly classified the information.
A recent US military policy decision now explicitly states that observations by spy satellites of incoming fireballs have been classified as secret so they cannot be released. These are satellites that detect nuclear bomb sites and tests, such as those in North Korea and Iran. As a side effect, they have also detected potentially incoming asteroids. This means that incoming space rocks that may explode in our atmosphere are now classified, so we cannot be prepared for a possible cataclysm.
In Space.com, Leonard David quotes an anonymous NASA scientist as saying, "It's baffling to us why this would suddenly change. It's unfortunate because there was this great synergy, a very good cooperative arrangement. Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was getting done that couldn't be done any other way. It's a regrettable change in policy."

David quotes NASA's David Morrison as saying, "The fireball data from military or surveillance assets have been of critical importance for assessing the impact hazard." Are they afraid that someone might identify these space rocks as incoming UFOs?
http://www.space.com/news/090610-milita ... balls.html

Information from military satellites about incoming asteroids has always been given to scientists in the past, but now the military has suddenly classified the information.
A recent US military policy decision now explicitly states that observations by spy satellites of incoming fireballs have been classified as secret so they cannot be released. These are satellites that detect nuclear bomb sites and tests, such as those in North Korea and Iran. As a side effect, they have also detected potentially incoming asteroids. This means that incoming space rocks that may explode in our atmosphere are now classified, so we cannot be prepared for a possible cataclysm.
In Space.com, Leonard David quotes an anonymous NASA scientist as saying, "It's baffling to us why this would suddenly change. It's unfortunate because there was this great synergy, a very good cooperative arrangement. Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was getting done that couldn't be done any other way. It's a regrettable change in policy."

David quotes NASA's David Morrison as saying, "The fireball data from military or surveillance assets have been of critical importance for assessing the impact hazard." Are they afraid that someone might identify these space rocks as incoming UFOs?
http://www.space.com/news/090610-milita ... balls.html
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"I don't know which me that I love.
Got no reflection."
"I don't know which me that I love.
Got no reflection."
What Is a Brown Dwarf?
[youtube]Ma3TNlIZC_I&feature=related[/youtube]
Brown Dwarf searching for the Brown Dwarf
Just ignore the coments about nibiru,it his is a brown dwarf,cool!
Mass Transfer in a close Binary Star System
[youtube]xAjq7VGnf4s&feature=related[/youtube]
Visual Binary Stars
[youtube]hiYW4uqe-gs&feature=related[/youtube]
In the fotos you can see pictures with distances of real binary star systems,it look's like the normal position in a binary system the stars are very close.
MPL3D Solar System - Binary stars=
[youtube]EwwJcyneZTk&feature=related[/youtube]
In here also very close stars,jupiter is the normal to a binary system distance(jupiter could be a star it almost hapen in the past),now a brown dwarft I really dont know,do you guys have some source of real picture of a binary system with a more eliptical orbit?
[youtube]Ma3TNlIZC_I&feature=related[/youtube]
Brown Dwarf searching for the Brown Dwarf
Just ignore the coments about nibiru,it his is a brown dwarf,cool!
Mass Transfer in a close Binary Star System
[youtube]xAjq7VGnf4s&feature=related[/youtube]
Visual Binary Stars
[youtube]hiYW4uqe-gs&feature=related[/youtube]
In the fotos you can see pictures with distances of real binary star systems,it look's like the normal position in a binary system the stars are very close.
MPL3D Solar System - Binary stars=
[youtube]EwwJcyneZTk&feature=related[/youtube]
In here also very close stars,jupiter is the normal to a binary system distance(jupiter could be a star it almost hapen in the past),now a brown dwarft I really dont know,do you guys have some source of real picture of a binary system with a more eliptical orbit?
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The Yin and The Yang
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/lifecynical.php
...................................................................................The Yin and The Yang
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/lifecynical.php
In here also very close stars,jupiter is the normal to a binary system distance(jupiter could be a star it almost hapen in the past),now a brown dwarft I really dont know,do you guys have some source of real picture of a binary system with a more eliptical orbit?
You ready for this?
Seems the only systems that have that type of elliptical orbit are those where one star has died and became a blackhole. When the star implodes the energy send the companion star flying away from the blackhole..........usually to about 1-1.5 light years away before it slows and becomes not a binary system but a star caught in a blackholes influence.
Now the scary part.............
No one would even know the blackhole was there until the companion star moved close enough for the black hole to start siphoning off material from it. Then it would produce the gamma rays that tell us a blackhole is present.
The only truly non binary systems we have observed tend to be loners who have been ejected from stable orbits due to extreme gravitational fields caused by many stars in close proximity..........they wonder throught the galaxy and outside of galaxies and have no planets.........gas clouds and debris.
All other systems that seem to have only one star are believed to be part of a binary system where one star is now a blackhole.
So why the hell are they not concerned about this or not even willing to admit the possibility of this scenario for our own system?
I am a nightmare walking, psychopath talking
King of my jungle just a gangster stalking
King of my jungle just a gangster stalking
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