South Korea Fires on North Korean Warship Near Border

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PostTue Nov 10, 2009 10:12 am » by jetxvii


So much for the end of there war....

South Korea Fires on North Korean Warship Near Border
By Bomi Lim and Stuart Biggs
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Nov. 10 (Bloomberg) -- South and North Korean warships exchanged fire off their western coast after the North’s vessel crossed a disputed sea border and ignored several warning shots, the Joint Chiefs of Staff said in Seoul.

The North Korean vessel ventured 1.3 kilometers (0.8 miles) into waters claimed by South Korea at about 10:33 a.m. local time today, triggering an exchange of fire, according to an e- mailed statement. The ship returned across the border after it was badly damaged in the exchange, Yonhap News reported, citing a government official in Seoul it didn’t identify.

The clash comes just days before U.S. President Barack Obama is due to visit South Korea as part of an Asian tour. The Obama administration plans to send Stephen Bosworth, its special representative for North Korean policy, to Pyongyang in an effort to bring the communist regime back to disarmament talks, a White House official said yesterday, speaking on condition of anonymity because the decision hasn’t been announced.

“North Korea often creates this kind of incident as a get- out clause” if negotiations don’t go its way, said Phil Deans, a professor of international affairs at Temple University in Tokyo. “The Americans really want to engage with North Korea, resolve the nuclear issue and move on to the bigger problems they feel they have in the Middle East and Pakistan, but North Korea is very unpredictable and it’s very hard to do.”

News of the clash caused South Korea’s Kospi Index to pare its gains. The benchmark closed up 0.4 percent at 1,582.30, having risen as much as 1.5 percent in the morning session.

Bosworth Trip

No date has been given for Bosworth’s trip, which comes after North Korea last week threatened to “go its own way” if the U.S. doesn’t commit to direct talks. North Korea withdrew from multinational negotiations involving South Korea, Japan, China and Russia in protest against the United Nations condemnations of its April 5 firing of a long-range rocket.

North Korea said on Nov. 3 it finished reprocessing 8,000 spent fuel rods as of the end of August to extract plutonium used in nuclear weapons. The country detonated its second nuclear device in May, less than three years after its first test in 2006.

Tensions between the U.S. and North Korea cooled after an August visit to Pyongyang by former President Bill Clinton to secure the release of two detained U.S. journalists, paving the way for the direct talks announced yesterday.

Today’s skirmish may be a case of North Korea seeking a scapegoat in case talks don’t go its way or if Pyongyang decides to cancel the U.S. talks, Temple’s Deans said.

Disputed Boundary

North Korea doesn’t recognize the boundary off the west coast, the scene of naval skirmishes in 1999 and 2002. The two nations remain divided after the 1950-53 Korean War ended in a cease fire, and have never signed a peace treaty.

After the South Korean ship fired warning shots, the North Korean ship opened direct fire, the Joint Chiefs statement said. The South’s vessel then fired back, it said. There were no South Korean casualties and the military is on full alert for any additional provocation, the Joint Chiefs statement said.

The clash was “regrettable,” Brig. Gen. Lee Ki Sik of the Joint Chiefs of Staff told reporters in Seoul. “We strongly protest to North Korea and urge the prevention of a recurrence of such events.” The South Korean vessel fired in “self- defensive,” Lee said. He couldn’t confirm the extent of any damage to the North Korean ship.

North Korea’s military accused the South of violating its border and demanded an apology, the official Korean Central News Agency said.

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PostTue Nov 10, 2009 10:30 am » by jetxvii


Report: Two Koreas' naval ships trade fire
November 10, 2009 -- Updated 0808 GMT (1608 HKT)

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Seoul, South Korea (CNN) -- North and South Korean naval forces exchanged fire Tuesday in disputed waters, South Korea's semi-official Yonhap news agency reported.

The two Koreas clashed off their west coast, the first such incident in seven years, Yonhap reported, citing an unnamed South Korean defense official.

"It wasn't a close-range battle," the Navy official said. "We fired heavily on the North Korean vessel.

"It is our initial assessment that the North Korean boat suffered considerable damage," said the official who declined to be identified because the information was preliminary. "No South Korean casualties were immediately reported."

A senior Obama administration official told CNN that South Korea was downplaying the incident, which doesn't appear to be deliberately provocative.

A patrol ship from the Communist North crossed the demarcation line late Tuesday morning, prompting the South's navy to fire warning shots, the South Korean official told Yonhap.

"The North Koreans then fired back," the official said.
Video: Korea gunbattle

Another defense official told the news agency that South Korea was not ruling out "the possibility that the clash may have been accidental."

North and South Korea have been bitterly divided since the 1950-53 war between them ended without a peace treaty.

There was, however, an armistice with the U.N. Command establishing the Northern Limit Line (NLL), a demarcation on the Yellow Sea designed to avert clashes at sea. But the two nations dispute the exact location of the sea border and North Korea does not observe the line.

Clashes have occurred before in the Yellow Sea, especially during crab fishing season, according to the defense news Web site Globalsecurity.org. Since 2001, North Korean vessels have crossed the NLL 65 times, though most of these incidents do not turn violent.

The first clash since the Korean War that turned deadly occurred in June 1999 when a North Korean ship was sunk. And in 2002, a series of North Korean incursions sparked an exchange that killed six South Korean sailors and wounded nine others.

Nine incursions had been reported this year through September, according to Yonhap.

The naval skirmish comes just days after North Korea pressed for direct talks with the United States, saying the two need to settle their differences before meaningful multilateral nuclear discussions could proceed, state media reported.

The reclusive Communist state pulled out of nuclear talks in April to protest the United Nations' condemnation over its nuclear test and missile launches. The communist nation has accused Washington of violating its sovereignty by singling it out and reporting it to the United Nations Security Council.

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PostTue Nov 10, 2009 10:32 am » by Sceptilief


Another incident to put into the overfull inbox of impending world chaos. (say it 10 times really fast)

It really was only a matter of time I think. All of these little strikes by all of these different powers.... *sigh* I wish I lived in space.
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PostTue Nov 10, 2009 10:35 am » by Slith


jetxvii wrote:Report: Two Koreas' naval ships trade fire
November 10, 2009 -- Updated 0808 GMT (1608 HKT)

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiap ... val.clash/

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Seoul, South Korea (CNN) -- North and South Korean naval forces exchanged fire Tuesday in disputed waters, South Korea's semi-official Yonhap news agency reported.

The two Koreas clashed off their west coast, the first such incident in seven years, Yonhap reported, citing an unnamed South Korean defense official.

"It wasn't a close-range battle," the Navy official said. "We fired heavily on the North Korean vessel.

"It is our initial assessment that the North Korean boat suffered considerable damage," said the official who declined to be identified because the information was preliminary. "No South Korean casualties were immediately reported."

A senior Obama administration official told CNN that South Korea was downplaying the incident, which doesn't appear to be deliberately provocative.

A patrol ship from the Communist North crossed the demarcation line late Tuesday morning, prompting the South's navy to fire warning shots, the South Korean official told Yonhap.

"The North Koreans then fired back," the official said.
Video: Korea gunbattle

Another defense official told the news agency that South Korea was not ruling out "the possibility that the clash may have been accidental."

North and South Korea have been bitterly divided since the 1950-53 war between them ended without a peace treaty.

There was, however, an armistice with the U.N. Command establishing the Northern Limit Line (NLL), a demarcation on the Yellow Sea designed to avert clashes at sea. But the two nations dispute the exact location of the sea border and North Korea does not observe the line.

Clashes have occurred before in the Yellow Sea, especially during crab fishing season, according to the defense news Web site Globalsecurity.org. Since 2001, North Korean vessels have crossed the NLL 65 times, though most of these incidents do not turn violent.

The first clash since the Korean War that turned deadly occurred in June 1999 when a North Korean ship was sunk. And in 2002, a series of North Korean incursions sparked an exchange that killed six South Korean sailors and wounded nine others.

Nine incursions had been reported this year through September, according to Yonhap.

The naval skirmish comes just days after North Korea pressed for direct talks with the United States, saying the two need to settle their differences before meaningful multilateral nuclear discussions could proceed, state media reported.

The reclusive Communist state pulled out of nuclear talks in April to protest the United Nations' condemnation over its nuclear test and missile launches. The communist nation has accused Washington of violating its sovereignty by singling it out and reporting it to the United Nations Security Council.

This is a tempest in a teapot for sure, but what worries me even more is that pic. Jet that is gross. :nails:
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PostTue Nov 10, 2009 10:38 am » by jetxvii


NKorea boat "in flames" after naval clash: Seoul

By Lim Chang-Won (AFP) – 5 hours ago

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SEOUL — A North Korean patrol boat was set ablaze after exchanging fire with South Korea's navy on Tuesday, Seoul officials said, as tensions rose a week before a scheduled US presidential visit.

The two sides blamed each other for the clash, the first for seven years near the disputed Yellow Sea border off the west coast.

President Lee Myung-Bak called an emergency meeting of security ministers as his Prime Minister Chung Un-Chan accused the North of making a "direct attack" on a high-speed patrol craft.

"There was no damage on our side while a North Korean patrol boat engulfed in flame sailed back (across the border)," Chung told parliament.

He described the clash, which follows recent peace overtures from the North, as unplanned and urged people to stay calm.

Some analysts, however, said Pyongyang may be sending President Barack Obama a message, eight days before he arrives in South Korea as part of an Asian tour.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff said the South's boat sent several warning signals after the North's boat crossed the border, but the intruder held its course.

After the South's boat fired warning shots, "the North's side opened fire, directly aiming at our ship. Then our ship responded by firing back, forcing the North Korean boat to return to the north," the statement said.

"There were no casualties on our side. We are on the lookout for any further provocations by the North," it said.

"We fired heavily on the North Korean vessel," an unidentified navy official told Yonhap news agency, adding the initial assessment was that it suffered considerable damage.

"We express our strong protest to North Korea and urge it to prevent a recurrence of such incidents," said Brigadier-General Lee Ki-Sik of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

He said the two sides exchanged fire for two minutes from a distance of 3,200 metres (3,500 yards). The North fired about 50 rounds, 15 of which hit the South Korean boat.

The border known as the Northern Limit Line (NLL) has always been a potential flashpoint and was the scene of bloody naval clashes in 1999 and 2002. History of naval clashes between the two Koreas

The North's navy last month accused South Korea of sending warships across the line to stir tensions, and said the "reckless military provocations" could trigger clashes.

General Lee said the North breached the NLL 22 times this year. But this was the first time the South had to fire warning shots because the patrol boat kept intruding despite five warning signals.

North Korea's military, however, told its South Korean counterpart to apologise for a "grave armed provocation" and said Seoul's ships had opened fire while its craft was north of the border.

In a report on Pyongyang's official media, the North said its boat "lost no time to deal a prompt retaliatory blow at the provokers".

Kim Yong-Hyun, a professor at Dongguk University, said he thought it likely the incident was an intentional provocation from the North because its boat ignored warnings from the South.

"This might be an intentional clash aimed at heightening tension ahead of Obama's trip," Kim told YTN television.

"I believe North Korea is trying to show Obama the volatility of the peninsula. North Korea has demanded a peace pact be signed with the US to replace the truce agreement (which ended the 1950-53 war)."

The clash, which occurred at 11.28 am (0228 GMT) near Daechong island, came amid Pyongyang's peace feelers to Seoul and Washington after months of hostility marked by its missile test-launches and a nuclear test.

The North has invited US special envoy Stephen Bosworth to Pyongyang for talks on ending the standoff about its nuclear weapons programme. Washington was expected to decide soon to go ahead with the trip.

The NLL was drawn up unilaterally by United Nations forces at the end of the Korean War in 1953. The North has never recognised it and wants it drawn further to the south.

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PostTue Nov 10, 2009 10:39 am » by Dirttyrabbit


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PostTue Nov 10, 2009 10:43 am » by jetxvii


IT SEEMS THERE MAY HAVE BEEN CASUALTIES!!!!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... VNRc&pos=8

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He said he couldn’t confirm the extent of any damage to the North Korean ship or North Korean casualties.

One North Korean soldier may have been killed and three other injured, Yonhap reported, citing a Joint Chiefs official it didn’t identify.

North Korea’s military accused the South of violating its border. South Korean ships first opened fire, prompting the North Korean patrol ship to “deal a prompt retaliatory blow at the provokers,” the Supreme Command of the North’s army said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.

“The South Korean military authorities should make an apology to the north side for the armed provocation and take a responsible measure against the recurrence of the similar provocation,” the statement said, without mentioning casualties or damage.

North Korea on Oct. 15 accused South Korea of violating its maritime border and threatened military action if the intrusion persisted.

The North has intruded into South Korean waters 22 times so far this year, Lee said.



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