Space Storms Could Knock Out Power Grid!
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What's the solution? The report ends with a call for infrastructure designed to better withstand geomagnetic disturbances, improved GPS codes and frequencies, and improvements in space weather forecasting. Reliable forecasting is key. If utility and satellite operators know a storm is coming, they can take measures to reduce damage—e.g., disconnecting wires, shielding vulnerable electronics, powering down critical hardware. A few hours without power is better than a few weeks.
Scientists from the University of Leicester have used observations from NASA’s STEREO and ACE satellites to come up with more accurate predictions of when blasts of solar wind will reach Earth, Venus and Mars. Anthony Williams will present the results at the RAS National Astronomy Meeting in Glasgow on Wednesday 14th April.
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aladin wrote:svaha wrote:What you call disturbed, I call purification.
What is the cause? I don't know what the first cause was, but the cause of the end of this circle / cycle was the birth of it, those two events are always linked together.
I looked at the pictures you posted and think your observations are correct, but they are not man made events.
The sun and it's workings are described in the Zodiac, 4 sectors / elements, 3 character types, 12 signs. ( Cotterell did some research on that : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 764573655# )
What you observe now is not only the 'normal' cycle, but the end of a couple of big cycles, this is when Ophiuchus, the snake carrier, or the healer comes into play.
All this will play out the next hundred of years.
My best guess regarding events (when looking at the maya calendar) is that the sun will reverse it's magnetic field, increase radiation causing infertility and so on, ... before 2012, this because this cycle ends some 500 days before the end of the bigger cycle in 2012.
I can only guess this, not because I doubt the Mayas, but because I doubt the conversion to our present calendar.
On the other hand, when I look at it in a broad perspective, I see it is unfolding right now.
no !
... hmmm - I think we talk past each other. This may be the google translator.
The purification - as you describe it - would be, relative to the orbit of our solar system in relation to the Galactic center ("Central Sun") - right?
My observation revealed a different pattern: these outbreaks appear in pairs always have the same direction:
From the earth toward the sun seen these bursts are always one to the left, and also one to the right.Here is a sample of 10 December 2009 - the direction is equal to the direction of the current bursts, as if the sun would have no rotation! and as if the earth does not orbit!
And although the sun continues to turn with their self-rotation and also has other positions in the earth orbit. And yet, these paired bursts ALWAYS fixed to view towards EARTH - SOHO instrument - SUN : always a right and a left. This exact simultaneity of the bursts - which never vary in their direction !
If these bursts an episode of "resonance" from the galactic center, then these paired bursts over time would have had to take other directions (Earth's orbit around the sun takes other seasonal positions)
What you see in the NASA raw images is a paradox ... :
The pairy events are always rigidly aligned to the earth - just as our moon is fixed rigidly to the Planet Earth
The earth responds to the sun.
It is not a one way ticket, but a kind of communication. The sun sends to, but also receives from the earth and depending on what the sun receives from the earth the next 'message' sent to the earth will be different.
This communication happens on all levels, but what we can measure/see from earth is only a small band.
So it only appears to be that the sun is fixed to the earth, the 'communication' is with all.
Follow your bliss(ters) - Joseph Campbell
A lot of questions, I start with that I really don't know what the Maya's / Hopi's or whatever thought/think about this, I can only give you my opinion.
All celestial bodies of our solar system are communicating / connected with the black hole in the center, if there was no connection / communication there would be no solar system.
This black hole, or source is where all matter originates from (is born) and will return.
Source is the core on all levels, so the core of our galaxy, the core of the earth, the core of a human, the core of a cell, the core of an atom. It is one source.
Looking from source nothing has ever happened, nor will happen, looking from earth everything happens within a certain time frame.
What the original Maya's did (as far as I know) was calculating backwards.
Time between cycles is not always the same to us but time depends on space, both can be and are 'bent' by us (consciousness)
All celestial bodies of our solar system are communicating / connected with the black hole in the center, if there was no connection / communication there would be no solar system.
This black hole, or source is where all matter originates from (is born) and will return.
Source is the core on all levels, so the core of our galaxy, the core of the earth, the core of a human, the core of a cell, the core of an atom. It is one source.
Looking from source nothing has ever happened, nor will happen, looking from earth everything happens within a certain time frame.
What the original Maya's did (as far as I know) was calculating backwards.
Time between cycles is not always the same to us but time depends on space, both can be and are 'bent' by us (consciousness)
Follow your bliss(ters) - Joseph Campbell
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Didn't we go through this last summer? "massive brown outs because of CMEs"?
Never happened. Probably won't happen this time either.
Never happened. Probably won't happen this time either.
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aladin wrote:svaha wrote:A lot of questions, I start with that I really don't know what the Maya's / Hopi's or whatever thought/think about this, I can only give you my opinion.
All celestial bodies of our solar system are communicating / connected with the black hole in the center, if there was no connection / communication there would be no solar system.
This black hole, or source is where all matter originates from (is born) and will return.
Source is the core on all levels, so the core of our galaxy, the core of the earth, the core of a human, the core of a cell, the core of an atom. It is one source.
Looking from source nothing has ever happened, nor will happen, looking from earth everything happens within a certain time frame.
What the original Maya's did (as far as I know) was calculating backwards.
Time between cycles is not always the same to us but time depends on space, both can be and are 'bent' by us (consciousness)
fail!
your answer is not properly! Maybe the google has alter the meaning of my questions?
I ask for facts, evidence, calendar calculations, orbit-around times, duration of a cycle ...
I do not ask for personal conjecture or traditional stories !
Again, there are somewhere verifiable evidence on links between the propagated fixed date 21/12/2012?
Anyone who has calculated this date?
According to what scheme ?
When was the beginning of this era ? and thus how long this cycle will last for exactly?
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I have only asked about the central sun, because you had mentioned. I see no direct connection between the location of our solar system within the orbit around the galactic center and the alleged Purification. I have, though can not see any connection.
If there is a direct connection, I beg to mention the facts - otherwise, the theme 2012 - Maya - Nibiru - Hopi - Doomsday will be closed. It is pure fantasy ...
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My observations from NASA - SOHO - images shows clearly cycles with respect to the earthly time.
post202364.html#p202364
If certain events recur after exactly 4 full hours, then one must assume manmade influences as the trigger ...
Facts? You mean data communication from a small band of perception that is called reality by just another religious belief system (science)
I don't do that anymore, been doing it for more than thirty years.
You can find data on internet / books, data of the calculations, but it will lead you nowhere, because all those books only deal with the surface data, don't deal with the fact that humans can bend space/time, can change the outcome of any cycle, in fact do that all the time.
That's why the date 2012 is only the end of one of the many cycles that can be found in the Maya calendars, the beginning of a new one.
When looking at solar cycles / influences you can better refer to astrology because it describes these cycles.
To know the true meaning you have to take into account the fractal nature of the universe, so whilst working with hole numbers (no decimals) you can describe a spiral (like depicted in the dendera zodiac)
If you don't take the fractal nature into account you will miss the increasing direction towards infinity at the end of a cycle.
I'll give you some numbers, only related to the sun/earth, not taking into account the other celestial bodies and a little content of the cycles.
The sun has four zones (depicted by a swastica), four elements air/water/earth/fire.
Every zone has three stages / steps, son, holy spirit / Self, father (the female side is described by earth astrology, I won't mention that)
So there are 4x3 signs = 12.
The virtual circle is 360 degrees (former days in a year)
One degree backwards takes 72 years, so one sign (30 degrees) takes 2160 years.
12 signs or a full cycle take 12x2160 years is 25920 years.
Every zone stands for one 'world', so one world lasts 3x2160 years is 6480 years.
The age of aquarius or the destroyer is the coming new world.
Follow your bliss(ters) - Joseph Campbell
aladin wrote:svaha wrote:A lot of questions, I start with that I really don't know what the Maya's / Hopi's or whatever thought/think about this, I can only give you my opinion.
All celestial bodies of our solar system are communicating / connected with the black hole in the center, if there was no connection / communication there would be no solar system.
This black hole, or source is where all matter originates from (is born) and will return.
Source is the core on all levels, so the core of our galaxy, the core of the earth, the core of a human, the core of a cell, the core of an atom. It is one source.
Looking from source nothing has ever happened, nor will happen, looking from earth everything happens within a certain time frame.
What the original Maya's did (as far as I know) was calculating backwards.
Time between cycles is not always the same to us but time depends on space, both can be and are 'bent' by us (consciousness)
fail!
your answer is not properly! Maybe the google has alter the meaning of my questions?
I ask for facts, evidence, calendar calculations, orbit-around times, duration of a cycle ...
I do not ask for personal conjecture or traditional stories !
Again, there are somewhere verifiable evidence on links between the propagated fixed date 21/12/2012?
Anyone who has calculated this date?
According to what scheme ?
When was the beginning of this era ? and thus how long this cycle will last for exactly?
---
I have only asked about the central sun, because you had mentioned. I see no direct connection between the location of our solar system within the orbit around the galactic center and the alleged Purification. I have, though can not see any connection.
If there is a direct connection, I beg to mention the facts - otherwise, the theme 2012 - Maya - Nibiru - Hopi - Doomsday will be closed. It is pure fantasy ...
---
My observations from NASA - SOHO - images shows clearly cycles with respect to the earthly time.
post202364.html#p202364
If certain events recur after exactly 4 full hours, then one must assume manmade influences as the trigger ...
Facts? You mean data communication from a small band of perception that is called reality by just another religious belief system (science)
I don't do that anymore, been doing it for more than thirty years.
You can find data on internet / books, data of the calculations, but it will lead you nowhere, because all those books only deal with the surface data, don't deal with the fact that humans can bend space/time, can change the outcome of any cycle, in fact do that all the time.
That's why the date 2012 is only the end of one of the many cycles that can be found in the Maya calendars, the beginning of a new one.
When looking at solar cycles / influences you can better refer to astrology because it describes these cycles.
To know the true meaning you have to take into account the fractal nature of the universe, so whilst working with hole numbers (no decimals) you can describe a spiral (like depicted in the dendera zodiac)
If you don't take the fractal nature into account you will miss the increasing direction towards infinity at the end of a cycle.
I'll give you some numbers, only related to the sun/earth, not taking into account the other celestial bodies and a little content of the cycles.
The sun has four zones (depicted by a swastica), four elements air/water/earth/fire.
Every zone has three stages / steps, son, holy spirit / Self, father (the female side is described by earth astrology, I won't mention that)
So there are 4x3 signs = 12.
The virtual circle is 360 degrees (former days in a year)
One degree backwards takes 72 years, so one sign (30 degrees) takes 2160 years.
12 signs or a full cycle take 12x2160 years is 25920 years.
Every zone stands for one 'world', so one world lasts 3x2160 years is 6480 years.
The age of aquarius or the destroyer is the coming new world.
Follow your bliss(ters) - Joseph Campbell
Space Storms Could Threaten UK Power Grid
ScienceDaily (Apr. 20, 2010)
Changes in the space environment caused by the Sun can lead to periods of bad "space weather." As well as driving intense displays of the northern lights (or aurora borealis), this can generate unexpected currents in electricity distribution grids that could lead to blackouts and damage to valuable infrastructure with potentially high cost to the global economy.
Now a team of British scientists at Lancaster University and the British Geological Survey (BGS) in Edinburgh have developed a new model that shows the widespread impact inclement space weather could have on the UK. On April 14th, team member Katie Turnbull presented the results at the RAS National Astronomy Meeting (NAM 2010) in Glasgow.
Bad space weather can cause fluctuations in the Earth's magnetic field (geomagnetic storms) that lead to Geomagnetically Induced Currents (GICs) in power grids. These currents have previously been blamed for blackouts in Canada and Sweden and are suspected of damaging power transformers in countries at lower latitudes. Large GICs have even been recorded in Scotland.

To prevent future blackouts, understanding how GICs occur is vital. The model developed by the British team, the most sophisticated yet developed, takes magnetic field measurements from all over the UK and combines them with the BGS's 3D model of how the ground beneath the UK conducts electricity, in order to estimate the currents induced at over 250 locations in the high voltage national grid.
The new work provides further evidence that the size of the unwanted current depends not only on the severity of the geomagnetic storm but also on the configuration of the power grid and the direction and fluctuation speed of the electric fields produced. For many years, it was thought that only countries located at high latitudes (near to the Earth's magnetic poles) were at risk, but this is now known not to be the case. While the basic physics that links solar activity to our electricity grids is broadly understood, the interaction between natural and man-made systems makes it hard to quantity the risks.
Results to be presented at the conference will compare simulated GICs in the UK grid model with those actually measured during a geomagnetic storm in February 2003. The simulated and measured currents are similar, but the model suggests that high currents are likely to be induced at several locations in the grid where GICs were not being monitored by the power industry at the time.
Although in this case no damage was caused, the scientists plan to use the model to learn how the UK grid might respond to possible future space weather events. Damaged transformers are not cheaply or easily replaced and some scientists and engineers are concerned that a major disturbance, like the severe magnetic storm that followed the solar flare observed by English astronomer Richard Carrington on the morning of 1st September 1859, could interrupt the worldwide electricity supply network by simultaneously disabling hundreds of transformers.
Known as the Carrington flare, this was the first flare ever observed and the storms around that time were the first recognised space weather events. In a related presentation on April 15, Ellen Clarke and colleagues at BGS and co-workers at the British Antarctic Survey and the University of Otago in New Zealand have estimated the strength of the solar flare witnessed by Carrington.
They correlated recent flares of known X-ray strength against the related magnetic variation, or 'solar flare effect', which is seen in geomagnetic records. The team then used this relationship with the measured Carrington 'solar flare effect', recovered from the 150 year old geomagnetic recordings made at Greenwich and Kew observatories and now held in the BGS archives in Edinburgh. They estimate that the Carrington flare must have been about twice as large (in X-ray flux) as the flare that preceded the largest geomagnetic storm of the last 10 years and that affected the Swedish power grid.
150 years ago the effect of GICs was limited to causing chaos in the telegraph network, but a storm like this would today have a wider impact. The US National Academies estimate the cost of such a future severe geomagnetic storm scenario hitting the USA to be 1-2 trillion dollars in the first year. Depending on the damage, they believe that full recovery could then take 4-10 years.
Lancaster University scientist and team member Dr Jim Wild stresses the wider importance of the group's new research. "The science is still in a relatively early stage and we're only just starting to understand the interplay between complex natural and manmade systems."
BGS Geomagnetism team leader Dr Alan Thomson added "a major objective is to shed light on the impact of both everyday and extreme space weather on our technologies and therefore to be better aware of the risk."
"Research in this area spans space science and geophysics -- we hope that this kind of multi-disciplinary science will be a priority for the UK's newly-launched Space Agency" added Dr Wild.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 125142.htm
ScienceDaily (Apr. 20, 2010)
Changes in the space environment caused by the Sun can lead to periods of bad "space weather." As well as driving intense displays of the northern lights (or aurora borealis), this can generate unexpected currents in electricity distribution grids that could lead to blackouts and damage to valuable infrastructure with potentially high cost to the global economy.
Now a team of British scientists at Lancaster University and the British Geological Survey (BGS) in Edinburgh have developed a new model that shows the widespread impact inclement space weather could have on the UK. On April 14th, team member Katie Turnbull presented the results at the RAS National Astronomy Meeting (NAM 2010) in Glasgow.
Bad space weather can cause fluctuations in the Earth's magnetic field (geomagnetic storms) that lead to Geomagnetically Induced Currents (GICs) in power grids. These currents have previously been blamed for blackouts in Canada and Sweden and are suspected of damaging power transformers in countries at lower latitudes. Large GICs have even been recorded in Scotland.

To prevent future blackouts, understanding how GICs occur is vital. The model developed by the British team, the most sophisticated yet developed, takes magnetic field measurements from all over the UK and combines them with the BGS's 3D model of how the ground beneath the UK conducts electricity, in order to estimate the currents induced at over 250 locations in the high voltage national grid.
The new work provides further evidence that the size of the unwanted current depends not only on the severity of the geomagnetic storm but also on the configuration of the power grid and the direction and fluctuation speed of the electric fields produced. For many years, it was thought that only countries located at high latitudes (near to the Earth's magnetic poles) were at risk, but this is now known not to be the case. While the basic physics that links solar activity to our electricity grids is broadly understood, the interaction between natural and man-made systems makes it hard to quantity the risks.
Results to be presented at the conference will compare simulated GICs in the UK grid model with those actually measured during a geomagnetic storm in February 2003. The simulated and measured currents are similar, but the model suggests that high currents are likely to be induced at several locations in the grid where GICs were not being monitored by the power industry at the time.
Although in this case no damage was caused, the scientists plan to use the model to learn how the UK grid might respond to possible future space weather events. Damaged transformers are not cheaply or easily replaced and some scientists and engineers are concerned that a major disturbance, like the severe magnetic storm that followed the solar flare observed by English astronomer Richard Carrington on the morning of 1st September 1859, could interrupt the worldwide electricity supply network by simultaneously disabling hundreds of transformers.
Known as the Carrington flare, this was the first flare ever observed and the storms around that time were the first recognised space weather events. In a related presentation on April 15, Ellen Clarke and colleagues at BGS and co-workers at the British Antarctic Survey and the University of Otago in New Zealand have estimated the strength of the solar flare witnessed by Carrington.
They correlated recent flares of known X-ray strength against the related magnetic variation, or 'solar flare effect', which is seen in geomagnetic records. The team then used this relationship with the measured Carrington 'solar flare effect', recovered from the 150 year old geomagnetic recordings made at Greenwich and Kew observatories and now held in the BGS archives in Edinburgh. They estimate that the Carrington flare must have been about twice as large (in X-ray flux) as the flare that preceded the largest geomagnetic storm of the last 10 years and that affected the Swedish power grid.
150 years ago the effect of GICs was limited to causing chaos in the telegraph network, but a storm like this would today have a wider impact. The US National Academies estimate the cost of such a future severe geomagnetic storm scenario hitting the USA to be 1-2 trillion dollars in the first year. Depending on the damage, they believe that full recovery could then take 4-10 years.
Lancaster University scientist and team member Dr Jim Wild stresses the wider importance of the group's new research. "The science is still in a relatively early stage and we're only just starting to understand the interplay between complex natural and manmade systems."
BGS Geomagnetism team leader Dr Alan Thomson added "a major objective is to shed light on the impact of both everyday and extreme space weather on our technologies and therefore to be better aware of the risk."
"Research in this area spans space science and geophysics -- we hope that this kind of multi-disciplinary science will be a priority for the UK's newly-launched Space Agency" added Dr Wild.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 125142.htm
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